Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by ernest » Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:05 pm

UncombedCoconut wrote:No job is too tedious for Perl.
Thanks! (I would have done it in Basic, certainly not as condensed...)
But now, what's the best/simplest way to run that Perl script?
(I know, I can google, but perhaps you can say something :) )

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by CarstenL » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:40 pm

Thanks ernest for PM

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by ernest » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:59 pm

Martin Thoresen wrote:2: Yes, I am using ChessGUI's own PGN format
I see you changed the format to suit Fritz GUI to get evals right in the graph.
Hi Martin,

Can you have a look at
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 436#392436,
and Matthias's answer?

Then why don't you set ChessGUI's PGNs so that they are readable, with Evaluation Profile, in the Fritz GUI?

Thanks!

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by Martin Thoresen » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:39 pm

ernest wrote: Hi Martin,

Can you have a look at
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 436#392436,
and Matthias's answer?

Then why don't you set ChessGUI's PGNs so that they are readable, with Evaluation Profile, in the Fritz GUI?

Thanks!
I can't use Chessbase format because I use many sets of comments that is not a part of the Chessbase PGN standard.

Pal Larkin is only using 3 set of comments in the PGN:
22.Ne5 {[%eval 69,20] [%emt 00:01:46] [%clk 0:48:27]}
(eval - move time - clock)

While I am using:
11.d4 { ev=0.11, d=23, pd=cxd3, mt=00:07:34, tl=02:22:25, s=600 kN/s, pv=d2d4 c4d3 c2d3 e5e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5f3 e6e5 b1d2, tb=0, R50=50, }
(eval - depth - ponder move - move time - clock - speed - pv - tablebase hits - distance to 50-move rule)

Many of the comments that I use does not exist in Chessbase format.

Matthias can probably elaborate further, but I remember discussing this with him during the start of TCEC a while ago.

Best,
Martin
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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by Matthias Gemuh » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:03 pm

Martin Thoresen wrote:
ernest wrote: Hi Martin,

Can you have a look at
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 436#392436,
and Matthias's answer?

Then why don't you set ChessGUI's PGNs so that they are readable, with Evaluation Profile, in the Fritz GUI?

Thanks!
I can't use Chessbase format because I use many sets of comments that is not a part of the Chessbase PGN standard.

Pal Larkin is only using 3 set of comments in the PGN:
22.Ne5 {[%eval 69,20] [%emt 00:01:46] [%clk 0:48:27]}
(eval - move time - clock)

While I am using:
11.d4 { ev=0.11, d=23, pd=cxd3, mt=00:07:34, tl=02:22:25, s=600 kN/s, pv=d2d4 c4d3 c2d3 e5e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5f3 e6e5 b1d2, tb=0, R50=50, }
(eval - depth - ponder move - move time - clock - speed - pv - tablebase hits - distance to 50-move rule)

Many of the comments that I use does not exist in Chessbase format.

Matthias can probably elaborate further, but I remember discussing this with him during the start of TCEC a while ago.

Best,
Martin
If I mess up the format of ChessBase, they can jail me :twisted: :evil:

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by CarstenL » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:55 pm

Martin Thoresen wrote: I can't use Chessbase format because I use many sets of comments that is not a part of the Chessbase PGN standard.

Pal Larkin is only using 3 set of comments in the PGN:
22.Ne5 {[%eval 69,20] [%emt 00:01:46] [%clk 0:48:27]}
(eval - move time - clock)

While I am using:
11.d4 { ev=0.11, d=23, pd=cxd3, mt=00:07:34, tl=02:22:25, s=600 kN/s, pv=d2d4 c4d3 c2d3 e5e2 e1e2 h7h6 g5f3 e6e5 b1d2, tb=0, R50=50, }
(eval - depth - ponder move - move time - clock - speed - pv - tablebase hits - distance to 50-move rule)

Many of the comments that I use does not exist in Chessbase format.

Matthias can probably elaborate further, but I remember discussing this with him during the start of TCEC a while ago.

Best,
Martin
Hi Martin,
why so many comments necessary ?
what is the sense ?
I would also prefer you do just as Pal Larkin does.

Thanks

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by Martin Thoresen » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:22 pm

CarstenL wrote: Hi Martin,
why so many comments necessary ?
what is the sense ?
I would also prefer you do just as Pal Larkin does.

Thanks
Carsten,

Without comments my live page would be useless.

http://www.tcec-chess.org/elite_match.php

I can understand that you would prefer it differently since you want the eval and clocks to fit Chessbase GUI.
But I simply have no choice on this matter right now.

Best,
Martin
TCEC - Thoresen Chess Engines Competition
http://tcec.chessdom.com

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by ernest » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:20 pm

Matthias Gemuh wrote:If I mess up the format of ChessBase, they can jail me :twisted: :evil: Matthias.
Hi Matthias,
Is it possible to use ChessGUI for converting Martin's PGN into Pal's PGN?

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by BB+ » Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:23 am

Houdini broke through in Game 23 to go up 6-1 in wins, but then Rybka reeled off 3 straight to reduce the margin to 6-4, currently at Game 28.

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Re: Houdini just massacred Rybka with Black :-)

Post by UncombedCoconut » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:37 pm

ernest wrote:
UncombedCoconut wrote:No job is too tedious for Perl.
Thanks! (I would have done it in Basic, certainly not as condensed...)
But now, what's the best/simplest way to run that Perl script?
(I know, I can google, but perhaps you can say something :) )
Ernest, I'm sorry that I missed your question. I have not used Perl on Windows for many years, but the easiest way might be:
Install Strawberry Perl. Open a command prompt and navigate to the folder with both the PGN files and the script (saved as a text file named convert_pgn.pl). Then run:
perl convert_pgn.pl input.pgn > output.pgn
to create the PGN file.

It may be easier to find a text editor that supports regular expression search & replace. That's all the first script does...

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