"An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Harvey Williamson » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:58 pm

thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
laughable Thor. There would have been no need to call anyone if Cock had just said sorry for stealing a product you are involved with selling. We gave him a free copy 2 days after the dinner on the 3rd day he banned me.

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by thorstenczub » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:06 pm

Harvey Williamson wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
laughable Thor. There would have been no need to call anyone if Cock had just said sorry for stealing a product you are involved with selling. We gave him a free copy 2 days after the dinner on the 3rd day he banned me.

So in your eyes, as you said it here in this posting, cock de gorter is a thief who steals a product you are involved in selling it.

thanks for the clarification.

I do not wonder in any way that you were banned after claiming those things.
in fact the only thing i wonder is - as chris whittington said -
even when insulted repeatedly in front of his wife, his evening out ruined, he still gave the miscreant a lift back to his hotel. Most people would have dumped such a character into the nighttime street and left him there. C de G a gentlemen, HW an oik.
you did not end with the drink in your face or the soupe in your hair.

:lol:

thats the difference between gentlemen and proles.
some say it polite, others clear.

the message is the same. only the words are different.

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Chris Whittington » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:09 pm

thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
I thought HW attended the Leiden tournament and was banned later by the CSVN committee after the CSVN committee met to consider his poor behaviour? Then, later, there were some backtracking and withdrawals on both sides and he was unbanned. So far so good, matter could have been dropped, but, narcissistically, HW then upped his demands and made further demands (designed to be unacceptable) so as to launch a campaign to remove C de G from the CSVN.

Actually it is this heavy attack, with interventions from Ban, Levy and Uniacke? that suggest there's more to this than revealed so far.

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Harvey Williamson » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:12 pm

Chris Whittington wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
I thought HW attended the Leiden tournament and was banned later by the CSVN committee after the CSVN committee met to consider his poor behaviour? Then, later, there were some backtracking and withdrawals on both sides and he was unbanned. So far so good, matter could have been dropped, but, narcissistically, HW then upped his demands and made further demands (designed to be unacceptable) so as to launch a campaign to remove C de G from the CSVN.

Actually it is this heavy attack, with interventions from Ban, Levy and Uniacke? that suggest there's more to this than revealed so far.
It is quite funny as Cock and I exchanged emails yesterday. I proved thet Scaramanga that played in Leiden was actually a Clone. The engine will now be removed from the tournament or possibly be given its correct name Now by Mark Lefler. http://hiarcs.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3906

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Chris Whittington » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:22 pm

Harvey Williamson wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
laughable Thor. There would have been no need to call anyone if Cock had just said sorry for stealing a product you are involved with selling. We gave him a free copy 2 days after the dinner on the 3rd day he banned me.

always the same line from the blackmailer, "it's the victims fault, he didn't do what I demanded, so I carried out my threat"

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Harvey Williamson » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:27 pm

Chris Whittington wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
laughable Thor. There would have been no need to call anyone if Cock had just said sorry for stealing a product you are involved with selling. We gave him a free copy 2 days after the dinner on the 3rd day he banned me.

always the same line from the blackmailer, "it's the victims fault, he didn't do what I demanded, so I carried out my threat"
What threat. At the point a free version was given to Cock the story was private. I was unaware that any ban was being discussed. So it must be in your alternate reality. Is this forum a front for LSD sales?

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by thorstenczub » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:36 pm

why ? do you now want to deal in the LDS business, maybe after sales of junior and hiarcs have decreased so much you cannot make a living ?

and what has david levy to do with LSD ?

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Chris Whittington » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:38 pm

Harvey Williamson wrote:
Chris Whittington wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
laughable Thor. There would have been no need to call anyone if Cock had just said sorry for stealing a product you are involved with selling. We gave him a free copy 2 days after the dinner on the 3rd day he banned me.

always the same line from the blackmailer, "it's the victims fault, he didn't do what I demanded, so I carried out my threat"
What threat. At the point a free version was given to Cock the story was private. I was unaware that any ban was being discussed. So it must be in your alternate reality. Is this forum a front for LSD sales?
A chav like you ought to be able to find a dealer on the council estate called home, no?

The threat with which you blackmailed Cock was carried out on HIARCS forum, safely for you, since you control things there; it was to name him if he didn't do what you wanted. Later you named him.

Blackmail is the act of threatening to reveal substantially true information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand is met. This information is usually of an embarrassing, socially damaging, and/or incriminating nature.


You threatened to reveal information about Cock.
The information was embarrassing/damaging/incriminating.
The demand to be met was that you were unbanned.

All the legal criteria for blackmail are met. Therefore you are a blackmailer.

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Harvey Williamson » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:40 pm

thorstenczub wrote:why ? do you now want to deal in the LDS business, maybe after sales of junior and hiarcs have decreased so much you cannot make a living ?

and what has david levy to do with LSD ?
hmm I do not get any money from Computer Chess Thor. I have a full time job that is not connected to Chess.

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Re: "An Open Letter to Cock de Gorter and the CSVN Board"

Post by Harvey Williamson » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:41 pm

Chris Whittington wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
Chris Whittington wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:
Harvey Williamson wrote: lol Thor so I write the Junior Licence that is funny.
no. but you support stuff like this. you even call for the police
(amir ban / David Levy, Mark Uniacke) because they banned you
from leiden-tournament. so it seems there is a connection
between you and them, isn't it ?
laughable Thor. There would have been no need to call anyone if Cock had just said sorry for stealing a product you are involved with selling. We gave him a free copy 2 days after the dinner on the 3rd day he banned me.

always the same line from the blackmailer, "it's the victims fault, he didn't do what I demanded, so I carried out my threat"
What threat. At the point a free version was given to Cock the story was private. I was unaware that any ban was being discussed. So it must be in your alternate reality. Is this forum a front for LSD sales?
A chav like you ought to be able to find a dealer on the council estate called home, no?

The threat with which you blackmailed Cock was carried out on HIARCS forum, safely for you, since you control things there; it was to name him if he didn't do what you wanted. Later you named him.

Blackmail is the act of threatening to reveal substantially true information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand is met. This information is usually of an embarrassing, socially damaging, and/or incriminating nature.


You threatened to reveal information about Cock.
The information was embarrassing/damaging/incriminating.
The demand to be met was that you were unbanned.

All the legal criteria for blackmail are met. Therefore you are a blackmailer.

btw I posted the letter on the CSVN forum as well - don't think I control that :)

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