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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:39 pm

What does the Anton clown use to attract an audience to his chess circus ?
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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by Anton101 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:15 pm

I certainly believe that with this post, you're not offending me personally, but rather a large audience that loves chess like I do.

Either way, these are user posts and are welcome.

Any publicity, good or bad, is still publicity., and thanks to you, we increased our subscriber base to 10 more in five minutes.

Thank you.

8-)

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:02 pm

Every month they are looking for me on their chess circuses :

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:11 pm

deeds wrote:
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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:46 pm

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Thu May 01, 2025 8:45 am

At SedatChess, engines obtain the same statistics under different conditions ! :o

Exemple with Stockfish 020425 (7 elo / 8 elo, 51.1% / 51.0%) :
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And it was the same lottery for Omega MPV (6 elo / 6 elo, 50.8% / 51.0%), Artemis 12TR (-3 elo / -2 elo, 49.5% / 49.7%)...

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by botunnet » Thu May 01, 2025 1:55 pm

deeds wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 8:45 am
At SedatChess, engines obtain the same statistics under different conditions ! :o

Exemple with Stockfish 020425 (7 elo / 8 elo, 51.1% / 51.0%) :
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And it was the same lottery for Omega MPV (6 elo / 6 elo, 50.8% / 51.0%), Artemis 12TR (-3 elo / -2 elo, 49.5% / 49.7%)...

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With the Unique openings, the draw rate is over 92% :arrow: only 372 games (=8% of 4680 games) are useful for separating engines :arrow: we just learn which engines blunder the most due to lack of time in drawish positions :arrow: it's only an useless lottery.

With the UHO openings, the draw rate is barely 56% :arrow: 2055 games (=44% of 4680 games) are useful for separating engines :arrow: we learn which engine knows how to capitalize on an advantage, which engine resists under pressure on non-drawish positions, which openings should be trained, etc.

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Thu May 01, 2025 3:05 pm

botunnet wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 1:55 pm
With the Unique openings, the draw rate is over 92% :arrow: only 372 games (=8% of 4680 games) are useful for separating engines :arrow: we just learn which engines blunder the most due to lack of time in drawish positions :arrow: it's only an useless lottery.

With the UHO openings, the draw rate is barely 56% :arrow: 2055 games (=44% of 4680 games) are useful for separating engines :arrow: we learn which engine knows how to capitalize on an advantage, which engine resists under pressure on non-drawish positions, which openings should be trained, etc.
To know which engine is the strongest in general, we have to cover as many ECO codes as possible and avoid non-discriminating positions (like the starting position, drawish opening lists, heavy unbalanced positions, positions with poor mobility of pieces, etc.)
:arrow: Unique openings are not relevant.

To improve the engine's evaluation, we needn't tons of moves evaluated at 0.00 regardless of depth.
:arrow: Unique openings are not relevant.

At SedatChess, tourney's conditions only favor blunders due to shallow depths due to a lack of time/power. This is pointless because simply by giving more power or time, these blunders disappear so there would be more draws and we already know that the Unique openings produce a draw rate over 90%.

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by botunnet » Fri May 02, 2025 8:31 pm

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With book width = 1

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   # PLAYER                                :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W     D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 white_Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)    :       0   ----   636.0    1200  53.0   82  1108   10  92.3       0     1
   2 Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)          :       0   ----   564.0    1200  47.0   10  1108   82  92.3       0     1

White advantage = 21.05 +/- 7.24
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
With book width = 2

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   # PLAYER                                :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W     D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 white_Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)    :       0   ----   623.0    1200  51.9   46  1154    0  96.2       0     1
   2 Perfect 2023.bin (Eman 8.40)          :       0   ----   577.0    1200  48.1    0  1154   46  96.2       0     1

White advantage = 13.44 +/- 7.18
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
82-10 and 46-0 !!!

Where to get white_Perfect 2023.bin ? :difus_20

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Re: How about we have a little laugh ?

Post by deeds » Sat May 03, 2025 8:46 am

Reminder :
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About the match between Bruteforce_binbook's "white_Perfect 2023.bin" and Sedat's "Perfect 2023.bin" :
botunnet wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 8:31 pm
82-10 and 46-0 !!!

Where to get white_Perfect 2023.bin ? :difus_20
You will find all the files here :
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But you can create your own "anti-Perfect 2023" book, you only need these few moves :

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e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 d7c6 d2d3 f8g7 h2h3 b7b6 e1g1 g8f6 a2a4
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 b7c6 e1g1 f8g7 f1e1 g8f6 e4e5 f6d5 c2c4 d5c7 b1c3
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 b7c6 e1g1 f8g7 f1e1 g8h6 c2c3 e8g8 h2h3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 c3d4 f7f6 c1d2

g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c6 d2d4 e7e6 c1f4 d7d5 e2e3 f8d6 f4d6 d8d6 b1c3 b7b6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 c8b7 c4d5 e6d5 d1b3
g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c6 d2d4 e7e6 c1f4 d7d5 e2e3 f8d6 f4d6 d8d6 b1c3 b7b6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1
g1f3 g8f6 c2c4 c7c6 d2d4 e7e6 c1f4 d7d5 e2e3 f8d6 f4d6 d8d6 b1c3 b7b6 f1e2 b8d7 c4d5 e6d5 h2h3
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