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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:33 pm

As long as Sedat does not understand his mistakes*, we all pollute his topics with evidence that his Depth4 books don't represent my Depth4 EXP files :
Sedat wrote: I will create a book, which will be tuned to prefer
Depth4 Exp Series, played in latest months of 2025!
Those are salads !

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Oops !


DeeDs + collective of honest people.

*Sedat's mistakes :
- at training, the moves are evaluated by the engine so they can be different than the moves contained in the EXP file
- at training, the learning feature allows the engine to try other moves than the bestmoves so training games contain engine's blunders
- training games don't represent the strength of an engine
- training games don't represent the accuracy of an EXP file
- the sole person responsible for the content of a book is its author
- EXP files (and opening books) have no strength (no ELO), they only are database

Sedat's confessions :
- opening moves played by the GUI don't come from the EXP file #1
- books created from training games can't represent an EXP file #1, #2

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Re: SedatChess

Post by sarona » Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:21 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:05 am

As final words,
You have to be in my shoes..to see what is going on...
If still not so clear, what is the point via SRC licence,
If the engines are buggy and no much improvements ?)

Greetings
So this is your line of reasoning in response to Anton's question?
Anton101 wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:35 am
[snip]....Let's be serious, Sedat. How are we going to test engines that don't meet the minimum licensing requirements. . . [snip]?
Instead of a multi paragraph whine, why don't you refute Chris's evidence with a factual based rebuttal?

Is it because you can't because he is correct about your incompetence on this subject?
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:55 pm
By the way,
Really I am tired by Deeds, because I can't concentrate over ongoing CS..
That made my day. . . :lol:

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Mar 26, 2025 9:23 am

@to Honest People

Meanwhile,
Let Me say also please some new notes more ;)

Especially when I organize duels, tours related
Via books vs experience files etc. the trolls are
On scene again and as usual with cheap actions..
Yes, they feel much frustrated, but as reasons:

1st. The trolls are haters and losers.

2nd. Theirs work is far away to be best.

3rd. Besides they ask very high price for bad..
But in my opinion, such work have to be free...

4th. Moreover they prefer so weak openings,
But they stay far from strong opening lines.

5th. They cheat with all player names, e.g
Instead of real...they named as Depth4 EXP
And why? just a simple straight answer: 80 €

And after all, is this all? not of course:

6th. These kind of brains are getting 'truly' mad,
Since SCCT competitions are one of best sources,
At least many Experts stated so.. over long years.

7th. Trolls (deeds, botunnet, sarona etc) are cowards,
Who try to poison, to destroy us.. will never succeed.

8th. If checking theirs boring postings, nothing new...
Mostly copies, due their thoughts are narrow, limited..

9th. Why trolls are on SedatChess thread? due it has
1.061.000+ views..most popular ever on OpenChess!
And all this great record is reached in short time, e.g
If I am not wrong, about in 1.5 year period of time...
Btw, many thanks to all, for showing your interest )

10th. As last words: Never 'feed' the trolls and never
Praise their work, because 'bad' should not be winner!

Thanks for reading and have a nice day )

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:09 am

When Sedat loses his memory, latest example to date :

March 25, 2025
Sedat wrote: ...Anyone is free to buy or not Depth4 EXP, no problem for my side...
March 26, 2025
Sedat wrote: ...they ask very high price for bad...
...such work have to be free...
There must be some bugs in Sedat's learning code :lol:

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:06 pm

@to All People, mainly to Deeds

1st. STOP advertising your EXP file here,
Just reminder: this is 'SedatChess' thread!! and
It seems Deeds is forgotten by many...so he tries
Almost daily with same boring posts to be popular
Here..yes, a good try.. but this thread is not so cheap!
If still not clear: You have to pay for that..understand ?

2nd. Hey Deeds, at least once try to be HONEST:
RE-NAME all..to real opening book / suite names!
What is that? each time Depth4 exp but if you're
Looser: no no, this is Sedat's mistake, hehe ))

3rd. as I stated earlier..once more for anyone missed:
I may try to help about his mistakes.. but not for free...
Since Deeds accused all people, such as who work for free,
They are 'slave'( yes, Deeds saying is obvious and so ugly!
And now it's so clear about why Deeds requests even for bad,
Weak lines: 80 euro..anyhow, no one is chains here, right?
So anyone is free to buy or not.. but as friendly advise:
Ask for money-refund...you may know, trust but verify!
Due to no Depth4 EXP 2025's results by independent testers,
Sure if serious results available...please correct Me, thanks..

Hope helps )
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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:08 pm

Sedat wrote: 4th. Moreover they prefer so weak openings,
But they stay far from strong opening lines.
One more time :

- here is no strong/weak opening, only balanced/unbalanced openings to learn by the trained engines

- EXP files are not engines so nothing to do with strength or ELO

- my Depth4 EXP files are trained on several opening lists so nothing to do with the opening books which start from the starting position

- training games contain the evaluated moves tried by the engines and also the moves from the opening lists so these games can't represent the accuracy of the EXP files

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:31 pm

Sedat wrote: 5th. They cheat with all player names, e.g
Instead of real...they named as Depth4 EXP
And why?
It's ridiculous : these players do exercices at training, they try various moves in order to learn each opening, open your eyes ! :lol:

No one even needs to cheat because these are training games/results, not engine's tournaments.

In addition, the opening list and the opponent (=BIN book) are clearly indicated for each trained EXP file.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Wed Mar 26, 2025 1:46 pm

Sedat wrote: ...At least many Experts stated so.. over long years...
:lol:
Experts in what exactly ?

- none of the learning code's authors (kelly, khalid, marco, andrea, etc.)
- none of the engine's trainers (mehmet, marco, deeds, skynet, rulleeeee, sarona, pavel, ibaibur, etc.)
- none of the authors of the tools for EXP files (khalid, marco, andrea, deeds, etc.)

I think it's even the opposite : all these experts take you for a clown.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:51 pm

Sedat wrote: 9th. Why trolls are on SedatChess thread? due it has
1.061.000+ views..most popular ever on OpenChess!
And all this great record is reached in short time, e.g
If I am not wrong, about in 1.5 year period of time...
Btw, many thanks to all, for showing your interest )
We agree : the SedatChess thread is the most popular chess circus for fans of the clown Sedat. :lol:

Its historical attractions always attract visitors, such as the BOOK tournaments where the champion is the loser in the blunders' lottery (=ultra bullet TC).

In recent months, new attractions have appeared, including EXP vs BOOK duels with concurrency > 1 + blunders' lottery (=ultra bullet TC) + sum of scores if the result does not go in the right direction.

The latest attraction renamed Depth4 2025 by the clown Sedat, it's a sort of opening book created from training games and then manually tuned. The goal is to measure the ELO score of an EXP file that has no strength, that's already crazy :!: But if you don't have this EXP file, it's guaranteed to make you laugh. :lol:

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:09 pm

@to All Honest People

Just to be more clear,
Well, I am not going in 'pissing contest' as
Deeds, since all we know how he praised
Himself..where many of those accounts are
Fake, belonging to same guy = Deeds, hehe ))

On the other hand, it seems Deeds is blind!
E.g M.Z, Mehmet plus many other experts
Were much thankful or praised my activities...
And not once..many many many times, sure
I'm not going to give these names or to prove,
But too much data is available about..anyhow
There is one true: much more.. than Deeds!

And without to not mention this I can't too,
E.g if I will start to share what many people
Said about Deeds (via private mails) including
Some forum Admins..he will be shocked again )
And who knows? maybe one day I will share.. )

Btw, nothing true about what Deeds is wrote,
Here is the true: Depth book is not much tuned,
E.g I spent about 10 min. as other derivatives..
His material is too bad..so too bad points!
And once more, the reason is Deeds, about why
So poor performance by Depth4's 2025 openings!
This guy will never understand... sad but true!
What he says: trainings, trainings etc. but my
Recent organized tours are not World Chess CS !)

And a few notes regarding Learning Chess Engines,
They are buggy on my machine (via huge EXP sizes)
Moreover and usually, for more fair tournament cond.,
Almost all recent SCCT tours played via Learning OFF!
And I see nothing wrong with that, actually almost
All independent, experienced TDs prefer this way...
Of course I refer not only for SCCT plus for CCC, CEGT,
CCRL, CEDR, FCP, FGRL, SPCC, SSDF, TCEC etc. and I am
Sure that many other TDs prefer as Learning OFF too!

About million+ of views on SedatChess thread,
The cat calls the liver 'dirty' when can't reach it )
And what this Deeds says: 'circus' but in this circus
He is one of most frequent visitors...hehe )) but as
Main difference, as usual his work performs so badly!

After all, if I'm going to summarize about over,
When Deeds was born — Devil cried

And please stay tuned..now I am bit busy, but
Later I will look for that posting, where Deeds
Blamed all those who work for free are slave (

Greetings

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