when a daily tester lies to people...

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by sarona » Tue Nov 26, 2024 3:22 pm

I knew about the issue with ShashChess.

I actually wrote that post in order to see if I could get a rise out of him and that he would then (predictably) praddle on in future posts about trolls and how terrible he is being treated on the fora. I see he is doing that on another forum with 62 members. Thanks for not letting me down.

I also did not want to be mean and mention the fact that such an experienced engine tester was scammed by including the (fake) Eman 10 in his test. I am sure he will eventually figure that one out, too.
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Sun Nov 24, 2024 8:27 pm

After Rulleeeee, you are the 2nd person to think that !?
For me, Sedat is still the least enlightened TD in terms of EXP files / learning engines.
But maybe you or Rulleeeee have found something in all Sedat's messages, because I haven't...
Chris, I seriously doubt he has learned anything about experience files. That post was pure sarcasm in order to provoke a reaction. People can test engines for 20 years and still be ignorant of the proper methods required. He doesn't even comprehend that either.

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Tue Nov 26, 2024 6:07 pm

At first, I didn't know Sedat so my first feeling was of pain for him as a TD to see his ignorance in absolutely all areas of learning engines / EXP files.

Since none of his supporters explained his mistakes to him, I understood that in fact they were all afraid that learning engines / EXP files would make all their work on BIN books obsolete.

So, I was interested in the openings most covered by BIN books and I trained Eman :
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After each learning session, I update a small BIN book with the most effective/played moves up to the 60th ply so not only when I use my EXP file in tournament mode (experience book = true), it is less and less of an "experimental" feature (as Khalid said) but I also learn about their world of BIN books.

When I see that they are still at the starting point with < 500 games per opening, engines configured in training mode (experience book = false) during their tournament, EXP files that do not match the engines, concurrency > 1, hash size < 2 GB, untrained openings, I enjoy waking them up from time to time because it gives me ideas for coding new tools.

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