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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:56 pm

Sedat wrote: ...
Interesting or shocking news is that
I am not included in his Foes list ?!
I wonder here why ?)
...
It's been a long time Sedat is in the foes list of most engines trainers.
https://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.ph ... 140#p29167
People reads Sedat's bullshit and advise me to provide or not some evidence on this or that subject.

Sedat wrote: ...
Other shocking news is that IbaiBuR in his Foes..
And frankly here I am much surprised...due to
I thought that they are good friends (each other)
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When Sedat thinked DeeDs = IbauBur :lol:

Sedat wrote: ...
Btw, what about Deeds work (exp learning), tour conditions is perfect, fair ??
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EXP files are databases :arrow: database has no strength :arrow: no database's tour exists :arrow: no conditions of database's tour :arrow: no problem about fair or unfair conditions (unlike at SedatChess) :arrow: Try again !

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:11 pm

It's amazing how Sedat's supporters don't give a damn about him, they only care about Sedat generates tons of free games for them :
Sedat supporter wrote: All i see now is this disruption has stopped SCCT from running as all stopped
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I would like to see the tours back and active
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:lol:

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:51 pm

Sedat wrote: ...
What Deeds does? not only sharing old exp, plus talking for 2022!
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Weird because we see several 2024 releases :
Image
source

Sedat wrote: ...
Moreover, I asked him a simple, but a very important question about
Deeds asked for a permission to include + edit from Hypnos to Igbo exp
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One more time :
- i have my own hypnos.exp since years because i train HypnoS (private release, courtesy of M.Z., pawn-based values) since January 4, 2022
- Igbo started to train HypnoS (public release, wdl-based percents) since March 22, 2024
Oops :arrow: Try again !

Sedat wrote: Now I ask a question to all honest people here?
Is this all fair ? do you trust to Deeds member?
Good idea :
- When Igbo started to train HypnoS ?
- When MZ sent me the first copy of HypnoS ?
Since i have evidence, i predict Sedat won't like their answer...
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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:51 pm

@ This time to fake accounts (Deeds etc. series)

1st of all,
He who laughs last laughs best

2nd most important IbaiBuR is not in my Foes list!
Do you understand or not ?
Once more we noticed, the cheap actions by you,
Even your close friend (IbaiBuR) in your Foes list!
Shame on Deeds again!

3rd. About my questions, which you ignored ..etc.
You've BIG troubles to provide a true arguments..
And for this reasons.. you share old stories..LOL

What I can say more,
You have no any chance for sure, such as
To prove with real facts..exc. BLA BLA BLA...
If still not clear, did you take permission to rename Igbo exp or not ?
A small note: I refer from real Exp author (Mr. Jorge) !

And as a last note to you:
You will be never successful, exception in cheating!

That's all

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:24 pm

Sedat wrote: ...
He who laughs last laughs best
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Since your own tourney's participant revealed your tourney's conditions are not professional and your own friend admitted your tourneys are for fun like hobby tourneys, everyone is laughing at you :lol:

Sedat wrote: 2nd most important IbaiBuR is not in my Foes list!
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Even your close friend (IbaiBuR) in your Foes list!
But what are you saying ? :lol:
First, where did you see IbaiBuR and me were friends ?
Second, IbaiBuR is a young student in Spanish's university, i'm 44 years old and working at home in France.
Third, IbaiBuR trains his own "blackhole" engine (exp file v3, wdl-based values), i train learning engines of MZ, AM, Khalid (exp file v2, pawn-based values).
Oops :arrow: Try again !

Sedat wrote: ...
did you take permission to rename Igbo exp or not ?
...
No need, i train my own hypnos.exp file since years (see previous post)
Oops :arrow: Try again !

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:49 pm

Sedat wrote: ...
A small note: I refer from real Exp author (Mr. Jorge) !
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So if I understand correctly : Igbo, who followed my old method from 2022, would be a real EXP author ?

Igbo's note : https://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/ ... ost#p64353

Maybe you misunderstood something about engines trainers again ...

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Post by IbaiBuR » Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:53 pm

Just to clarify, DeeDs and I were not close friends, we used to talk regularly on Skype until recently, but that's all.

Please Sedat, I want to have nothing to do with this discussion and this forum in general... So please, I kindly ask you to stop mentioning me.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Tue Nov 12, 2024 8:34 am

deeds wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:24 pm
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Since your own tourney's participant revealed your tourney's conditions are not professional and your own friend admitted your tourneys are for fun like hobby tourneys, everyone is laughing at you :lol:
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Reminder :
OrgZ wrote: :?
I have always wondered whats happening because I know my books are strong especially MegaTron. Now I know and its TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL OF YOU SEDAT, allowing such play. some of us take our time to tune ours books well and once we are certain that yes its ready we hand it over. and some punk(s), bring their half tuned books plays against ours and lose, then request games from a live tour, take our strong lines and add defensive lines against our strong lines and enter the tour again, THATS LAME AND UNPROFESSIONAL!

Anyone can take it how they like, but facts are facts!
And yet another one :
Skynet wrote: Hi Sedat. Don't know if someone has told you already, but I did notice important "mistakes" (or call it whatever you like) in your latest books (and engines) tests. I didn't dig deep, but according to your latest pgn results, the time which you used for tests is wrong. For example, you made tests with TC: 30sec+0.5 and 60sec+0.6, but pgn recorded those tests as 30 and 60 sec flat, without any increments. This may be a bug from cutechess or you doing something wrong, in any case you need to check it.
From your pgns ->
https://ibb.co/gSW8HL1
Should be ->
https://ibb.co/8PKBrq6

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:32 pm

SOURCE:
https://chess.massimilianogoi.com/forum ... 3168#p3168
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:37 pm

Hello Aleks,

1st of all,
Thanks for pointing this out...

Btw, can you inform Me please,
Which Cutechess GUI ver do you use?

And that's true...I am aware..even if settings are at 30s+0.5s
On my system, Cutechess records all Bullet games at 30 sec
Only if running at Blitz, such as 2m+1s then its records as it is
[TimeControl "120+1"]

I wonder, is this can be as a GUI bug on my system or..?!
Because I used several different Cutechess GUI vers and
And each time this issue happens..sure I refer if Bullet
But if Blitz, Rapid etc it is all right ! no any issue !!

E.g for references you can checl at Rapid 15m+3s:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... s-sf-pb-sc

For Blitz (2m+1s), where you will see again is all right:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-26

But anyhow, be aware also of that
I am sure that all latest games played with increment (30sec+0.5sec)!
But I agree here and very strange that games are recorded at 30sec
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-37

One thing more,
I prefer Cutechess v1.2.0, since on newer beta versions,
Many of the SF-based engines forfeits on time, but under
Cutechess 1.2.0, it is stable e.g no games lost on time !

But this is also true, you will never know until you try,
Sure I refer running tours on my tournament machine!

Greetings
@ TO FAKE ACCOUNTS (DEEDS ETC. SERIES)

IN OTHER WORDS:
NOT SO BAD, BUT NOT ENOUGH
TRY AGAIN BUT ON GOI FORUM...
IN SHORT, COPY.. PASTE..
BORING...BE ORIGINAL !!

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:36 pm

They are so incompetent that they use settings that distort the GUI. :lol:

No wonder from the same people who do not know the difference between opening moves played by the GUI, opening moves played by the BIN book and opening moves played by the EXP file.

Hopeless :!:

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