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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:25 pm

@ to Honest people

After checking more closely all latest shared screenshots by Deeds:
- No any data is recorded about Mr. Jorge is gave a permission to be played in Deeds tour!
- Plus no data is recorded about Mr. Jorge to gave a permission to be renamed to Igbo exp!

Deeds has try again.. so far Deeds is too bad, unsuccessful with all what he does!!

And as a last note,
If Deeds has no such facts...Deeds should apologize mainly from Mr. Jorge Centelles!
And of course from all chess community! because a similar issue never seen before,
Exc. in Deeds recent tour of 2024 !! if still not so clear, here I am very serious:
-No any TD, organizer etc. has a right to include a private book or exp or engine etc.
As without taking a permission from real Author... hope helps!

If nothing else.. let's hope also that,
Deeds has to stop fooling all Openchess members!

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:47 pm

Sedat wrote: ...
After checking more closely all latest shared screenshots by Deeds:
...
It's funny that you didn't see that you're not in the list of engine trainers :lol:
Shared screenshots are what off list people can see :lol: Oops :arrow: Try again !

When Sedat renamed Khalid's EXP file :
viewtopic.php?t=3624#p27668

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:07 pm

Reminder : without my patience, Sedat would have no one to talk to for pages on these public forums. Nobody talks to him about anything anymore, poor Sedat. People writes him only simple polite phrases because they have a book in his tourney and they expect to get effortlessly some free games, that's it.

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:17 pm

@ TO HONEST PEOPLE

THE MAIN DIFFERENCES ARE THAT,
I CLEARLY STATED ALL ABOUT THAT I RENAMED IT!
WHAT ABOUT DEEDS? NO ANY INFO SO FAR, HEHE ))
EXCEPTION, SINCE TODAY....I STARTED TO ASK...
AND HE FAILED TO EXPLAIN...BECAUSE
NOTHING TRUE IN DEEDS TOURS!

MOREOVER, EMAN EXP IS PUBLIC AND FREE !
WHERE HYPNOS (IGBO) EXP IS PRIVATE AND DEEDS INCLUDED IN HIS TOUR
AS WITHOUT TAKING A PERMISSION BY ITS REAL AUTHOR (JORGE CENTALLES)

YES...DEEDS HAS TO TAKE A LOT OF LESSONS...BUT
HE HARDLY EVER WILL LEARN ...SAD BUT TRUE!

IN OTHER WORDS,
WOW.. .IF ALL OF PEOPLE WERE AS DEEDS, THEN
OUR COMPUTER CHESS WOULD BE IN REAL DANGER!

MY RECOMMENDATION TO THIS DEEDS:
TO TRY AGAIN, BUT NEXT TIME WITH FACTS !!

AND TO STOP, IF NO DATA TO PROVE!

BECAUSE NOT ALL OF US ARE NAIVE!

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Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:32 pm

@ To Honest People,
About the last posting what Deeds is said...

All we noticed again how Deeds is become much panic..started to force all
Story into different direction :lol: but we are not so stupid + naive as Deeds!

1st of all, he has to explain to all people of Openchess forum,
Dıd Deeds take a permission or not (for Igbo exp) from Mr Jorge Centelles?
And then I may inform with pleasure about the discussing with other members
But before.. Deeds has to tell the 'true' to all people on Openchess, right ?)

If not.. that would be another new real SCANDAL of Deeds lie series !!
But frankly, No BIG surprise...since Deeds is using fake accounts etc!

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:22 am

@ Chris (aka deeds, unofficial, botunnet, ruleeee, meeeee etc)

As I stated before, and I'm not going in pissing contest so
Let's leave the people to decide who is dishonest you or Me!

Regarding comments, views etc.
Let's leave people to see who has more comments, views you or Me!

Regarding Deeds vs SCCT tours,
Let's leave people to see who has more tours, players you or Me!

Regarding to not talking anymore with you,
Many of my chess friends said to stay far away from you,
And very likely I will follow theirs friendly suggestions!
Let's hope also that you will stay far away from Me too!
Thanks in advance

Bye Bye

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Homayoun » Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:01 am

Hi deeds
In this way that you explained for me , I think an engine with experience file(on) never is ready to participate in tournaments. These kind of engines are much better used for training human chess players to find the best variant in openings or create innovations for openings. Because in case that you explained when an engine with experience file wants to participate in a tournament it is just like a student who should know all the questions of the exam before beginning of the exam. Then what’s the meaning of the exam? The tournament director should inform all the openings of the tournament to the engine trainer. Then he/she trains the engine and then engine participates in tournament. Then what’s the meaning of tournament? Am I wrong?
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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:04 am

Homayoun wrote: ...
I think an engine with experience file(on) never is ready to participate in tournaments
...
Then what’s the meaning of tournament ? Am I wrong ?
...
You're right, an EXP file is a content (database), so it has no strength like all the files.
A file has a known weight, data has a variable precision, that's all.
One can only hope to measure the contribution of an EXP file to an engine but the EXP file itself has no ELO strength.
Homayoun wrote: ...
it is just like a student who should know all the questions of the exam before beginning of the exam.
...
Then what’s the meaning of the exam ?
...
In the order, the professor gives lessons to the student, the student done exercises, the professor checks learned knowledge by an exam.

Homayoun wrote: ...
The tournament director should inform all the openings of the tournament to the engine trainer.
Then he/she trains the engine and then engine participates in tournament.
...
That's why there are some engines trainers who trains the engines on all ECO codes, all usual opening lists, etc.

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Homayoun » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:34 am

Ok. Thanks. I understood the point. :difus_19

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Homayoun » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:58 am

I understood that an experience file can help as a great assistant to modify lines and variants in chess openings. It can be a great complement for books too , because you can creat innovative moves with experience file. So a match between a book and experience file is meaningless. Because an experience file can be a superior complement for a book or a bookmaker too. Also we shouldn’t apply an engine with its experience file( on mode) in tournaments for measuring it’s strength , only the content and quality of an experience file is important. These are true?

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