personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:03 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:37 am
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he decides to attack to someone for enjoy and pleasure
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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:27 am

@ to Honest People (non-Deeds fake accounts)

What about these new arguments?

Here are some new posting records, especially on same date, hour, min. etc:
Both of them (ruleeee + deeds) were logged in same exact time in Openchess!

Post by rulleeeee » Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:06 pm:
viewtopic.php?f=7&p=37781#p37781

by deeds » Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:30 pm:
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4173

To be more clear,
Exactly at that moments I was logged on Openchess too,
Where I noticed that rulleeeee + deeds were logged too!
In short, I catched him again that both are same guy:
rulleeeee = deeds

If still not so clear:
- Similar posting records almost never happens (in case of LIVE post..)!!

And this is not as 1st time happens..right? for example:
I catached again that botunnet + deeds = same guy too !

For more info all over:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3648&start=20

One thing more, botunnet was last active:
Sun Sep 10, 2023 12:25 pm
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2921

In other words,
What happened ?) maybe boring to use one of his fake accounts already?
Or perhaps 'botunnet' is often (as Exp player) only in Deeds EXP tours ?))
Because as far I noticed (in Deeds tour screenshot): botunnet is Winner!
Here I wish to congratulate, but not sure...he is best of best or not )))))
LOL ))) Btw, frankly here I am not much shocked LOL ) since he is mad!

As final conclusion,
Deeds can try to 'fool' the other people here, but he can't Me!

And now as most important and as final words are coming:
Hey chess friends, please learn and pay attention all over!
And as friendly advice: Be careful with this madman: Deeds

And if I was as serious Admin in forums: I'd never give him a 2nd chance!
Do you know why ? I 'm sorry to say that but Deeds certificate is too bad!
Proved, guaranteed...

Thanks for reading, interest.. !)

Best,
Sedat

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:46 am

By the way, argument series are ON and
Here is tour (organized by botunnet/deeds/ruleeee):
Games are not available..but no BIG problem ))
Most important botunnet (deeds/ruleeeee) is Winner..hehe ))
2nd ruleeee (deeds/botunnet) is again not so bad too! hehe )))

In other words (about the screenshot question)
Deeds EXP development has big progress, but in cheating !!
Best of best fake techniques for sure !!
Believe it or not...



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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:16 am

Sedat wrote: ...
Post by rulleeeee » Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:06 pm:
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by deeds » Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:30 pm:
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Exactly at that moments I was logged on Openchess too,
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So Rulleeeee = DeeDs = Sedat = all the people connected on OpenChess at Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:00 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:54 am

Sedat wrote: ...
Deeds is missed to add all his attacks over Me!
Don't worry, nothing is forgotten, no problem to give the details again, this way, even more people will know about the facts.

Sedat wrote: ...
This madman (Deeds) always started as firstly!
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Not quite, there is several unfair and repeated Sedat's actions before Sedat felt attacked.
The "attack" was no gratuitous or spontaneous.

Sedat wrote: ...
Where is Deeds attacks ??
...
E.g the first Deed's attacks are started on Outskirts!
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We agree, it started at OCF after Sedat's "1 EXP file vs 12 BIN books" unfair tourney.

Sedat's behavior as TD :

- Is [StockfishMZ 020722.exp] the original filename of the EXP file ?
NO ! Sedat renamed the [Eman 210122.exp] file (trained by Khalid A. Omar for the Eman engine) to [StockfishMZ 020722.exp]
Evidence for the record :
Image


- Did [StockfishMZ] use its own EXP file ?
- Did the score represent the strength of the [StockfishMZ] engine ?

NO ! Sedat disturbed the [StockfishMZ] engine with an EXP file which contains evaluations from an another engine


- Has [StockfishMZ] been configured in tourney mode ?
- Did the score represent the contribution of the [StockfishMZ 020722.exp] file ?

NO ! Sedat didn't set [Experience Book] to true
Evidence for the record :
Image


- Was the EXP file trained against BIN books ?
NO ! Sedat didn't notify MZ about his tourney in order to train [StockfishMZ] with the BIN Books list of his tourney


- Did Sedat generalize the score of a single engine to the others ?
YES ! And Sedat cumulated the scores as if the single engine had encountered only one book that would contain only the good lines of the 12 books.

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:23 am

@ Again to Honest people (non-Deeds fake accounts)

1st of All,
Game is Over, Don't Trust to Deeds!

Sure you are free to not trust Me here too,
But as reference, after so so many many years)
I am not going to prove who I am here really!
My free data, work etc. is perfectly clear !!
And not since today or yesterday or this year,
Since many many many years !! Btw, my 1st data:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090829054 ... index.html

And I am pleased to announce also that
I've so much positive + kind words by many
Chess friends from all over the World that
Here it will take so many time to write..
But anyhow, I am not going to do that...
And I assume that mostly of you trust Me!
Sure, there will be such people, who will
Be not satisfied by my chess activities, but
If all will..that means I am doing it wrong!

And again a few words about 1st Deeds attacks, trolls over Me:
First attacks came by Unofficial (aka deeds, botunnet, rulleeeee etc):
http://outskirts.altervista.org/forum/v ... 8&start=10
So nothing true what this madman says...proved, guaranteed again!

Btw, as last words, about why I re-named Eman.exp to StockfishMZ exp
Actually I explained before all over..but since this madman still...

So for anyone missed again, but this as last comment over:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ook-vs-exp
I preferred Stockfish MZ (for Duel I), due to Eman
Engines series are crashed on my tournament machine!
And I realized to re-name..to use as default exp
And as other reason, about why is shared, simply
Due to was a request by Ian Hurnavich...no more no less!
So just as StockfishMZ (as default played exp name) shared ..
And I think here, this is not as fatal or lie etc.
Btw, is this so much important? I hardly doubt..
If so...I can get only more LAUGH hehe really.. how sick
Can be a guy who has mentality problems such as Deeds,
Who still accuses Me... that it's a wrong, bad, lie etc..

And as other new interesting arguments are
Here on Openchess..deeds is hopeless again..
He can not fool anymore many that I firstly started!
Data is available..facts are available, his lie are
Available..but what is not available? I may help:
botunnet, ruleeee are still not joined to attack ))
After all, time will tell, right ?!

As final words,
What he wrote again, I did not expect more from deeds,
Since he is madman..the more he talk, the more he sink!

And this is my last posting over... because it's time to for
New SCCT tournaments, which I promised to community!


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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:46 pm

Sedat wrote: ...
Btw, as last words, about why I re-named Eman.exp to StockfishMZ exp
...
And I realized to re-name..to use as default exp
...
As we can see, Sedat just confirms his questionable behavior.
But too late, we already had evidence that 2 EXP files were the same.
deeds wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:54 am
- Is [StockfishMZ 020722.exp] the original filename of the EXP file ?
NO ! Sedat renamed the [Eman 210122.exp] file (trained by Khalid A. Omar for the Eman engine) to [StockfishMZ 020722.exp]
It's already doubtful for a TD...

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Thu Nov 07, 2024 1:02 pm

Sedat wrote: ...
Btw, is this so much important? I hardly doubt..
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This is where we see how Sedat has no skills in learning engines / EXP files but at least Sedat confirms again his questionable behavior.
deeds wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:54 am
- Did [StockfishMZ] use its own EXP file ?
- Did the score represent the strength of the [StockfishMZ] engine ?

NO ! Sedat disturbed the [StockfishMZ] engine with an EXP file which contains evaluations from an another engine
deeds wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:54 am
- Did the score represent the contribution of the [StockfishMZ 020722.exp] file ?
NO ! Sedat didn't set [Experience Book] to true
So [StockfishMZ] only followed the experience data of the [Eman 210122.exp] file at 84%.

An honest TD would have announced the tourney score as "Eman 210122.exp (StockfishMZ 220622)" or "StockfishMZ 220622 (Eman 210122.exp)" but in no case a score as "StockfishMZ 220622 EXP" or "StockfishMZ".

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Re: personal attacks : when they have no more arguments...

Post by deeds » Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:55 pm

Homayoun wrote: ...
Have we forgotten his bad and disrespectful behavior to Adrian Oliva( Oliprog) at outskirts chess forum.
Every body know that Adrian Oliva is a real gentleman in chess community who never has any tensions with others.
But deeds simply insulted to him.
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Sedat wrote: ...
About Oliprog (Adrian), As you said this man is real gentleman, with BIG heart!
Always kind..once I did not see anything wrong in him! And no doubt that we need more people as Adrian !

But I am afraid to say also that Oliprog (plus many others) will be never on Openchess as active member, reason: Deeds is here! This is as fact !!
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We agree, it started at OCF after Oliprog's "EMAN 8.03 64-bit AVX2 Embedded Net vs. ProteusSF RBE 008b AVX2" unfair tourney.

Oliprog's behavior as TD :

- Did the score represent the strength of the [Eman] engine ?
- Has [Eman] been configured with the best settings for tourney ?

NO ! Oliprog set [Experience Book Min Depth] to 4 and [Experience Book Eval Importance] to 1

Evidence for the record :

With Oliprog settings for tourney :

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setoption name Experience Book value true
setoption name Experience Book Best Move value true
setoption name Experience MultiPV value false
setoption name Experience Book Min Depth value 4
setoption name Experience Book Eval Importance value 1
setoption name Experience Book Max Moves value 100
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Oops ! These settings allow the engine to choose a very bad move from its EXP file.


With default settings for tourney :

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setoption name Experience Book value true
setoption name Experience Book Best Move value true
setoption name Experience MultiPV value true
setoption name Experience Book Min Depth value 27
setoption name Experience Book Eval Importance value 5
setoption name Experience Book Max Moves value 16
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Here, the engine searchs for the bestmove instead of chosing a very bad move from its EXP file.

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