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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:17 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:57 pm
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But a small reminder again:
If possible new 2024 releases..
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Oops :arrow: Try again !

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:32 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:57 pm
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I do not trust to your chess site (Deeds shop), that's why
Please.. if possible share on OpenChess forum..thanks!
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We also do not trust you and your tournament conditions.
You will never have a copy of a real original Depth4 experience file.
Logical since you have no skills in learning engines and their experience files.
I bet you don't even know the difference between BrainLearn's experience files (.exp, .bin) :lol:
Like your followers (Cubail, AlexChess, Solidor, Jeanchess, etc.), I bet you still believe Khalid shared an Eman v10.0 release :lol:

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:43 pm

@ to Deeds

Oh..that's a madness !
You've really much problems..I expected but not so much...

Once more, I will try....but in a different way:
Can you share free EXP 2024 files on Openchess forum?
But what you do ? nothing...exception, you force all
Members to buy your EXP file (for plenty of EURO, hehe)
And I assume only then after buying... your EXP customers
May have chances to download your free exp series, right?

On other hand,
I think here no one is aware how much is strong your EXP!
And as I stated earlier, wake up.. come on real ARENA,
In SUPER LEAGUE..do not waste your time with weak lines!
At least you can try Vs latest strong Top players..
For example, let's say a similar DUEL:
Your EXP vs DON CTG ?! just in case... who will win?
Very likely, you will say: your EXP.. but before,
We have to be sure, right ? not all as it seems !
If still not so clear, instead of papers, comments:
I prefer to rely on reality, games, standings..!!
And this is not all, even your EXP will be winner..
It does not mean best.. what about vs rest players?
For this, I strongly suggest vs many many players!
And then be sure..you will boost your EXP sales!
Btw, under these cond. do you have any customer/s ?
If you have..they are not aware..that our world
Is based on many and strong players...but it's ok!
Not my business...you are free to go in any way!

But anyhow, just in case of such tours, duels etc..
That would be great, ideal..in case of EXP vs Books,
To be organized by independent tournament organizers,
Who do not have profit at all...understand or not ?

And just do not get me wrong here..
I am trying only to help!

About my experience over EXP files testings,
I have not much, but enough data regarding...

And if I am not wrong, please correct Me also that:
Opening books are managed to overcome EXP files !!
At least my latest organized Duels indicated this!

SOURCES:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ook-vs-exp
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... oks-vs-exp

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:51 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:43 pm
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you force all Members to buy your EXP file (for plenty of EURO, hehe)
And I assume only then after buying... your EXP customers
May have chances to download your free exp series, right?
...
You really have some troubles with the free word :lol:

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:43 pm
I think here no one is aware how much is strong your EXP!
Experience files are living, real-time databases (unlike BIN books) :difus_oops We don't measure the strength of a database or a dictionary, we measure their amount of data, their precision, their variety, etc. :arrow: Try again !

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:43 pm
in case of EXP vs Books, To be organized by independent tournament organizers,
For example : how are your independent tournament organizers going to use an experience file designed for houdini, dragon or torch with the houdini, dragon or torch engines ? :lol:

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:20 am

deeds wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:51 am
We don't measure...
Hehe.. finely, you learned something from Me.. via saying: We

A good step via saying 'We', but not enough..there is a long way to go..!
But be sure no any 'guarantee' since you've lost your prestige for sure !!
Sometimes I wonder: how many fake accounts you have: 5 or 10 or more ?

And final words, remember also that:
The Number of SCCT Champions are much more than your overall players!

That's why, you have to learn a lot..but I hardly doubt you have such skills..
In short, you are a simple pawn and you don't know that it's a piece of chess!

That's all

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 04, 2024 11:42 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:20 am
deeds wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:51 am
We don't measure...
Hehe.. finely, you learned something from Me.. via saying: We
We = normal people so not stupid people so not you
So good luck measuring the strength of an EXP file :lol:
So good luck using Stockfish_15_1.exp with SF15.1 release :lol:

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:12 pm

We all know EXP files are databases but some moron wants to make a tourney between databases :
Sedat wrote: ...
You always refused your main EXP to be played in serious competitions
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

:arrow: Poor dude, he must be really desperate to pick a winner between position statistics...

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:47 pm

For the record.

Statements :
Sedat wrote: ...
Opening books are managed to overcome EXP files !!
...
Confessions :
Sedat wrote: ...
About my experience over EXP files testings,
I have not much, but enough data regarding...
...
I don't care so much in training mode / tourney mode etc.
...
Et voilà !

We know why most engine trainers don't send a copy of their EXP files to Sedat, why they avoid publishing the results of their training sessions, why we exchange our tools privately, why we are the only ones who know what an EXP file brings to an engine, etc.

Daily testers of books or engines aren't ready for showing to people which EXP files help the most what engines on what openings. They don't understand how living databases work. They haven't tools to add realtime learning feature to any (non-learning) engines too.

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:27 pm

deeds wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:12 pm
We all know EXP files are databases but some moron wants to make a tourney between databases :
Well, my job is ending here too, as final words:

I will not fall in your low-level, so let's:
- People decide who is moron, mindless here ?!
- People decide who is good, bad, honest, liar ?!
- People decide who is opened this thread ?!

And if you going to ask my 6th strong sense:
I hardly doubt that you will be ever changed,
As fella says: the child is father of the man!

From this moment,
Far be it from Me!

May God bless you!

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by deeds » Tue Nov 05, 2024 7:10 am

deeds wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:47 pm
...They haven't tools to add realtime learning feature to any (non-learning) engines too...
For example, this kind of tools allow this kind of experiment :
https://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4145

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