when a daily tester lies to people...

[Sedat Canbaz]

The old era of static chess with opening books is dying since people train learning engines. In computer chess era, it became absurd to run engines from starting position. Fishtest uses opening lists, Stockfish doesn't handle books, we have tools to reveal openings handled or not by books, it's the end.

Hi deeds,

I don't think the era of engines, plying with well tuned opening books, is dying.

The goal of opening books is to go fast, and without loosing any microsecond, on maximum depth and on the best position, so that the engine will keep all remaining time to play maximum strength VS opponent which will have little time left because of losing precious seconds before the end of book line.

Good books will always beat a learning engine at all time controls.

Best regards.

Hello Roger,

As usual, good points by you!

Just I'd like to add,
No much chances to be beatable the strongest opening books!
They are as BEAST...fighting until the last straw for sure!
Same words are going to the strongest Exp files as well..

On other hand,
I still believe that a well-trained/super strong Exp may overcome vs
Many of the Top books e.g in Duel III, Exp file managed to do that:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-vs-exp-3

After all,
Time will tell about who will be 1st Champ as Exp or Book:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-ben-cs-1

But I admit also that,
RapToRa engine's learning is outstanding, it seems one of best!
Why I say like this, e.g as far as I noticed, RapTora 2.2 prefers
The learned moves in auto (e.g not thinking in learned positions)
Where some others are thinking..even in theirs 1st opening moves!
Sure I'm NOT expert on Eng learning..very likely the eng programmers
Will explain better than Me...

By the way (when Book vs EXP CS I tour will be resumed):
SugaR XPrO 240523 is planning to be as next new entry...

Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Even under stupid conditions or sabotaged results, SCCT showed the opposite and several times

As Ibaibur explained, those who still believe this have a complete misunderstanding of the performance of experience data. Nothing surprising because this lack of knowledge is carefully maintained by daily testers.

Really I am tired to read all of your NONSENSE comments, really!

Where is your CLEVER conditions or NON-SABOTAGED ratings ??

If not so clear,
ENOUGH BLA BLA BLA....send your EXP to well known trusted TDs!
If STILL not so clear: PROVE that I am W-R-O-N-G, but as I said earlier:
Be sure to use STRONG openings..and to be played vs many players etc
Be sure also min 1000 games (per player) to be played...

Actually I wonder: who are you (in reality) ???
Did your file or engine as participant in SCCT ??
As far as I know, you are NOT...for this reason:
IT'S TIME TO STOP YOUR BULLSHIT COMMENTS I

Btw, you are as REAL DAILY TESTER, e.g
I'm on holiday since many days/weeks ))

[Sedat Canbaz]

One ting more (for anyone missed, interested...),

As I mentioned before
Deeds system is Business system...no more no less!

Actually Deeds's target is very simple and clear:
Trying to gain much Euro, but via cheap ways!

What I can say more over these issues:
Deeds will never send his Depth4 Exp file to:
- Well known trusted organizers of ratings!
Because we will see that his famous Exp will be
Much below ranked than his own testings... )))
Because not all of TDs prefer handicapped cond. !

And this is also true that
Deeds tries to attack/sabotage many of the testers, e.g
Just a few, where Deeds underestimated: SCCT, Oliprog, SPCC etc.
If not clear, just because many of us have to stop testing Exp files...
Hehe ))) really SICK mentality...but what a pity that
We have to live with Deeds NONSENSE...sad, but true !

Greetings

[deeds]

...now is the time to ignore the AlexChess team and his sponsors (Sedat, Anton101, Homayun, ZamChess, Conrog, etc)...

it's been done for days now !

The decision was made in concert with knowledgeable people, friends, clients and family to ignore them for life.

Main reason given : "DeeDs must avoid helping cheaters as much as possible."
Secondary reason given : "unenlighted daily testers are useless since engine's trainers are using private communication channels between them."


Consequently :



Leads to :



And unenlighted daily testers will remain unenlighted

[Sedat Canbaz]

...now is the time to ignore the AlexChess team and his sponsors (Sedat, Anton101, Homayun, ZamChess, Conrog, etc)...

I am sorry to say that
But it seems you suffer from mental illness / frequent stress!
At least I can say, you are simply as a very miserable man, sad!

Why I say like this,
Who has a different view than Deeds, you put them in Foe or
In Ignore list.. hehe )) actually if this was true in reality? then
I guess many would be happy, but as we see your actions confirm
Just opposite...for this reason, you are very active on my chess
Forum threads.. plus you are as frequent SedatChess visitor!
Forget everything...you are so much interested in my activities..
That you prefer to contact Me even via several fake accounts ))

Meanwhile,
About your stupid comments such as I am from Alexchess team,
No any idea..and what are you talking about? frankly before
I've never heard this team..plus SCCT is not part of any team!

Btw, if not clear.. here is a great saying over:
They asked the wolf, "Why is your neck thick?"
He replied, "Because I do my job by myself"

And as last words, I wish to say: hope helps
But since you are as hopeless man.. sorry)

[Sedat Canbaz]

Main reason given : "DeeDs must avoid helping cheaters as much as possible."

Sure.. sure... the ones who often are cheating... they think that
All other chess friends are cheating too, really SICK mentality!

If still not so clear,
For this reason, you refused to share your recent (Eman+RapTora) exp files...

Btw, how can you confirm that you tests are with 40 Threads/Engine ?
I mean...why in your recent played testings (Eman vs RapTora):
There is no any LIVE match screenshot? if you are so honest...??

On other hand,
You can blame SCCT, but in my many latest NNUE 3700+ ratings,
I prefer as 1 Core or 2 Cores.. so I think that I have no chances to
Run at 0.5 Core/Engine, correct Me please if I'm wrong ?

Meanwhile,
SCCT's 1 Core tour can be counted as MP on Deeds hardware (2x E5-2660)!
Just saying...

[deeds]

...
And after checking your own thread..no any new replays to you !!
...

Weird because i found unexpected and spontaneous replies like these ones :


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[deeds]

You are on my thread, because you're forgotten by many ..hehe ))

Weird because 2024 still seems quite recent to me :


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[deeds]

...
why no any free exp available
...

https://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4132





Oops !

[Sedat Canbaz]

...
why no any free exp available
...

https://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4132





Oops !

I do not trust to your chess site (Deeds shop), that's why
Please.. if possible share on OpenChess forum..thanks!

But a small reminder again:
If possible new 2024 releases..

Btw,
Is there any fool who cares much about old data ?
Frankly I am not of them.. but here I see also that
You care much..hehe.. at the end, a fool man !
Another proof that you have a very bad character !!

For more info, you can check:
https://www.open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4132