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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:21 am

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Breaking News (28.08.2024):
1st of all, this tour is organizing In the Name of all Book Champions :
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ok-players
Yes..another exciting CS and as books: Number Ones from Past to Present!
E.g so far, all of the opening lines are belonging between 2006 - 2010 years
That means more than 15 years ago..yes in those old good times, no doubt
That the current players were as beast,with amazing performances..actually
Even nowadays, some of theirs strong opening lines are still not dead at all !!
Anyhow, after more newer entries, the standing are expecting to be changed..
As we know, the Bows, Swords etc has zero chances vs Guns, Drones, right?
Btw, for the moment.. ongoing competition was battled via Swords, Blows... )
However, just only for fun...and I'm very pleased to organize this great event!
But I admit too..a lot of hard work required to create + run these kind of tours!
Be aware too, in the next days, weeks more Champions books will be played..
Mostly of them will be my job, because as books I test only up to 1 MB ones!
Ok, dear chess friends, that's all for now.. more information soon as possible )

Current Book Leader: Perfect 16 - Congrats to myself again !) By the way,
Is this all surprise, luck? of course not..I still remember those old days Results
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... tober-2009
About the ideas, efforts, work..which I spent..In short, Success is no Accident!

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Rank Name          Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Perfect 16    3790   10   11   650   56%  3749   72% 
   2 Experimental  3782   11   11   650   55%  3749   81% 
   3 My Book       3774   11   11   650   54%  3750   79% 
   4 Yograj        3768   11   11   650   53%  3751   75% 
   5 Rybka II      3751   11   11   650   50%  3752   80% 
   6 Hurricane     3749   11   11   650   49%  3752   81% 
   7 CompMaster    3747   11   11   650   49%  3752   75% 
   8 OmPrakash     3742   11   11   650   48%  3753   76% 
   9 Perfect 13x   3740   11   11   650   48%  3753   79% 
  10 Ultra-Blitz   3739   11   11   650   48%  3753   74% 
  11 Magnificent   3738   11   11   650   48%  3753   79% 
  12 Rybka III     3737   11   11   650   48%  3753   82% 
  13 Xmas2640      3736   11   11   650   47%  3753   82% 
  14 Perfect 13    3731   11   11   650   47%  3753   78% 
For More Details:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-35

Best,
Sedat

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:05 am

UPDATE

Well, once my father (in-law) is used to say as:
The gun was invented, the bravery was ruined

In other words, I say over (with optimal cond.):
The NNUE was invented, the FUN was ruined

On other hand,
This saying can be useful..especially since NNUE,
The chess is became better (in strength), but in
Same time unfortunately became so boring too..sure
No any idea, but I suppose that the creator of 'chess'
Would be surprised much..that (mainly since 2020),
Many of the eng games are started to play/gain with
Previous trained data...and meanwhile, I wonder too,
Why for humans is not allowed with trained/previous
Own Data too (for better quality games) ?) sure not as
Good idea to gain in fast time controls..because no time,
I assume that many will forfeit on time ) but at least
Sounds not so so bad such as to gain at slower TC e.g:
At 90m+30s, 40/120 etc time controls..and just in case,
I mean that humans will have plenty of time to check..)
Who knows? maybe GMs future's is planning to be so ?)

Ok my friends, let's back to our actual Number Ones CS )

To be more clear:
Via Raubfish SC (sure at Bullet TC) FIN is not ruined!
As we see 78% draw ratio... something like as NON-NN
Yes..there are plenty of drawish Top engines (NON NN),
Where they produce even more draws (than Raubfish NN)
Sure as main difference is that they are much weaker...

Note also that,
Some book vers are merged in one name..as reason,
Simply due to not enough games (per book version)
But Experimental, Rybka, Perfect, Xmas etc series are
100% based/tuned to prefer theirs original openings!

About Rybka II (based on 2006 openings by Mr J. Noomen),
This great one was never became Champ in official tours,
But according to my beta testings (sure I refer in the past),
Rybka II book was as Best/Number One...with outstanding
Performance..so I realized Rybka II to be created and tested!
Be aware of that Rybka II (2006) and Rybka III (2008) are not
Based on same lines..e.g their openings different each other..
So it's quite normal that theirs performances are not same!

Just I'd like to point also that,
Due to no much free time.. and as far as possible:
Only Number Ones/Winners with 1000+ games will be as
Next book players, because there are many Champ titles,
Bıt in reality, they are not as Winners ..or they have not
Enough played games.. sorry here..but anyhow, very likely
Later (in next days/weeks) registrations will be opened..
So Champions Authors will be free to submit small books!
Sure up to 1 MB uncompressed in size...Btw, you know:
The powerful moves are not in BIG sizes...but in lines!
Proved and guaranteed...e.g DON Hercules, Optimus plus
Perfect 16, Titans 2024 etc are one of them for sure !!

That's all for now..see you later and please stay tuned...

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Ding-Bat » Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:59 pm

Hi i see P15 in downloads but not P16 any chance of a link to it ? thanks

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:02 pm

Ding-Bat wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:59 pm
Hi i see P15 in downloads but not P16 any chance of a link to it ? thanks
Hello )

Thanks for interest...well, Perfect deep books are publicly available,
Exception my Perfect 16 opening book..and I realized to keep it private,
As main reason, in those old times.. there were BIG attacks over Me...
You know, when some clever guys can not be successful on 'real' Arena,
They prefer the easiest way: to attack via papers, fake accounts... ))

On the other hand (sure I mean in the past...),
Many many people requested/wanted Perfect 16.. even some offered
A high price..but I did not sell it or shared..sometimes money is not all..
Actually all my work is free..no charge...since it's my hobby, not as job )

Btw, please note also that,
For the moment Perfect 16's performance is unbelievable, with:
56% Win. perc where its draw ratio just 72%
But however...after more newer Champ books ...I expect that Perfect 16 will lose the leading..
But I think that it's quite normal...because no much chance to overcome.. e.g lets say:
A fight such as Sword vs Gun or vs Drone etc !)

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:06 pm

Breaking News (28.08.2024):
Via 2nd update (for today) we've 3 other Champ entries, Attacker, Dark Angel and
DON and all of them are are based on opening lines, belonging to 2009 - 2012 years
And yes, some of the standings are changed...anyhow, as we see both (Perfect plus
Experimental) books are still on Top ranks, with highest points so far..unbelievable!
Note also that Perfect 16 book's opening are based on 2008 plus on 2009 year too..
In other words, here I'm a little bit surprised...because Perfect16 breaks the well
Known rules!! I mean its lines are like Gold (24C), which never loses its value !)
Actually / normally the newer opening theory should be better / stronger, right ?
Anyhow, I wonder too much: who will be 1st hero, who will managed to take the
Lead..otherwise, I am going to cancel this exciting great event.. ) we will see as
Next the barrier is increasing...in short, 2010-2012 Champs will be played out:
Hitman, JaponTopOne, Guardian Angel...and wishing best of luck to all books!

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 Rank Name              Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Perfect 16        3780   10   10   800   54%  3750   75% 
   2 Experimental      3776   10   10   800   54%  3750   81% 
   3 Attacker 09/12    3775   10   10   800   54%  3750   77% 
   4 Dark Angel        3775    9   10   800   54%  3750   83% 
   5 My Book           3771   10   10   800   53%  3750   80% 
   6 Yograj            3760   10   10   800   51%  3751   77% 
   7 DON 09/11         3756   10   10   800   51%  3751   81% 
   8 Rybka II          3750   10   10   800   50%  3752   81% 
   9 CompMaster        3746   10   10   800   49%  3752   76% 
  10 Hurricane         3745   10   10   800   49%  3752   82% 
  11 OmPrakash         3737   10   10   800   48%  3752   77% 
  12 Perfect 13x       3737   10   10   800   48%  3752   80% 
  13 Magnificent       3736   10   10   800   48%  3753   79% 
  14 Rybka III         3736   10   10   800   47%  3753   81% 
  15 Xmas2640          3735   10   10   800   47%  3753   82% 
  16 Ultra-Blitz       3731   10   10   800   47%  3753   74% 
  17 Perfect 13        3731   10   10   800   47%  3753   78% 
For More Info:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-35

Greetings

Ding-Bat
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Ding-Bat » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:36 pm

Thanks for info
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:02 pm
Ding-Bat wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 12:59 pm
Hi i see P15 in downloads but not P16 any chance of a link to it ? thanks
Hello )

Thanks for interest...well, Perfect deep books are publicly available,
Exception my Perfect 16 opening book..and I realized to keep it private,
As main reason, in those old times.. there were BIG attacks over Me...
You know, when some clever guys can not be successful on 'real' Arena,
They prefer the easiest way: to attack via papers, fake accounts... ))

On the other hand (sure I mean in the past...),
Many many people requested/wanted Perfect 16.. even some offered
A high price..but I did not sell it or shared..sometimes money is not all..
Actually all my work is free..no charge...since it's my hobby, not as job )

Btw, please note also that,
For the moment Perfect 16's performance is unbelievable, with:
56% Win. perc where its draw ratio just 72%
But however...after more newer Champ books ...I expect that Perfect 16 will lose the leading..
But I think that it's quite normal...because no much chance to overcome.. e.g lets say:
A fight such as Sword vs Gun or vs Drone etc !)

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
Posts: 1925
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:29 am

Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:46 am

Ding-Bat wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:36 pm
Thanks for info
Not at all..

By the way, if you are interested of course..
I can share my Playchess 2009 games, played by Me (SedatChess via Prefect 16 book)
Actually, in past I shared all the games, but if you missed..I still keep the database...

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
Posts: 1925
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:29 am

Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:48 am

Breaking News (29.08.2024):
Via current update 3 (three) Champions of 2010 - 2012 are entered and frankly
I've expected much better performance by them since their openings are newer..
And after quick checking closely Hitman's games, I have seem strong but critical
Lines too and it seems many of Hitman's openings suffer much under these cond.
Anyhow no problem, since it's just a fun championship, but in the past I admit too
That all of these great books (including Hitman) are shocked many many for sure!
Btw, as we see again and again, Perfect 16 is still best..I told before, I never play
For 2nd place and I can't remember to be 2nd..here instead of papers, the facts,
Calculation tools are talking !! But I promise also that I will do my best Perfect 16
To loose the lead (reason since 2007 I don't allow my books to become Champ)
And to be more clear, as next Champion entries will be on Arena: the Automatic
Weapons such as the Winners of 2015 - 2017 years! so already I expect to see
Newer/other Leader/s..and till to this moment, the fight was between Swords vs
Swords plus vs Guns too !) Meanwhile, there are many other great Champions,
Who managed to be Number Ones as well..but unfortunately due to not enough
Games (per player) will be not played..ok that's all for now and soon more info !

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Rank Name            Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Perfect 16      3775    9    9   950   55%  3743   75% 
   2 Experimental    3769    9    9   950   54%  3744   81% 
   3 Attacker 09/12  3769    9    9   950   54%  3744   78% 
   4 My Book         3767    9    9   950   53%  3744   79% 
   5 Dark Angel      3765    9    9   950   53%  3744   83% 
   6 Yograj          3754    9    9   950   51%  3744   77% 
   7 DON 09/11       3753    9    9   950   51%  3744   81% 
   8 Rybka II        3746    9    9   950   50%  3745   81% 
   9 CompMaster      3742    9    9   950   49%  3745   77% 
  10 Guardian Angel  3741    9    9   950   49%  3745   85% 
  11 Hurricane       3740    9    9   950   49%  3745   83% 
  12 OmPrakash       3738    9    9   950   49%  3745   76% 
  13 Xmas2640        3735    9    9   950   48%  3745   81% 
  14 JaponTopTeam    3734    9    9   950   48%  3745   80% 
  15 Perfect 13x     3734    9    9   950   48%  3745   81% 
  16 Rybka III       3731    9    9   950   48%  3746   81% 
  17 Magnificent     3731    9    9   950   48%  3746   80% 
  18 Perfect 13      3730    9    9   950   48%  3746   79% 
  19 Ultra-Blitz     3729    9    9   950   47%  3746   75% 
  20 Hitman 09/11    3716    9    9   950   45%  3746   78% 
For More Details about 'In the Name of Number Ones' Championship:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-35

Have Fun,
Sedat

Ding-Bat
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Ding-Bat » Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:47 am

Thanks it was more the book that was of interest but no worries
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:46 am
Ding-Bat wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:36 pm
Thanks for info
Not at all..

By the way, if you are interested of course..
I can share my Playchess 2009 games, played by Me (SedatChess via Prefect 16 book)
Actually, in past I shared all the games, but if you missed..I still keep the database...

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
Posts: 1925
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:29 am

Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:01 pm

Breaking News (29.08.2024):
Via 2nd update (for today), finely Perfect 16 (2008-2009) book is lost the lead
To 2015-2017 Snipers (Attacker plus DON) and once more we noticed that no
One can stay on Top forever, it's against nature rules but under more fair cond.
Another unforgettable records were on scene...otherwise without this CS, we'd
Would not know, right? but I admit too that for example via this tour, no way all
Books to be played under very fair cond. since some are too old..some newer..
Yes..exception by the current Sniper Leaders + Perfect 16, I'm impressed a lot
By Experimental (Jean Disquin), Rybka II (Jeroen Noomen) sure by others too!
Yes...no doubt that these Sword Warriors were in fight to the last drop of blood,
And many were quite successful even vs Gun Warriors..that means a lot really!
Note also this tour stage will be ended soon but before there will be Tie-Break:
Attacker vs DON, for determining the Winner, since both are with same points..
And another very interesting note, older DON vers (DON 09/11) is played BIG
Role about DON 15/16 to be one as current Number Ones e.g older DON vers
Lost almost all its games (as White) via Ruy Lopez C89 vs newer DON 15/16
Otherwise, Attacker 16/17 would be current Champ, 2nd Perfect 16, 3rd DON...
Sure later after this stage..there will be other stages...with newer Champs too!
In other words, FUN is still ON so please stay tuned and good luck to all books!

Current Book Leaders: Attacker + DON - Congratulations to Adrian, Vasid!

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Rank Name              Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Attacker 16/17    3773    7    7  1150   54%  3746   86% 
   2 DON 15/16         3773    7    7  1150   54%  3746   85% 
   3 Perfect 16        3769    7    8  1150   53%  3746   78% 
   4 Experimental      3766    8    8  1150   53%  3746   84% 
   5 Panda 16/17       3762    7    8  1150   53%  3746   89% 
   6 My Book           3762    8    8  1150   52%  3746   81% 
   7 Cerebellum 16/17  3762    8    8  1150   52%  3746   87% 
   8 Dark Angel        3760    8    8  1150   52%  3746   84% 
   9 Attacker 09/12    3759    8    8  1150   52%  3746   79% 
  10 Yograj            3751    8    8  1150   51%  3747   80% 
  11 DON 09/11         3745    8    8  1150   50%  3747   81% 
  12 Rybka II          3744    8    8  1150   50%  3747   82% 
  13 CompMaster        3743    8    8  1150   49%  3747   79% 
  14 Guardian Angel    3741    8    8  1150   49%  3747   86% 
  15 Hurricane         3739    8    8  1150   49%  3747   84% 
  16 Perfect 13x       3736    8    8  1150   48%  3747   83% 
  17 Xmas2640          3735    8    8  1150   48%  3747   82% 
  18 OmPrakash         3735    8    8  1150   48%  3747   77% 
  19 JaponTopTeam      3733    8    8  1150   48%  3747   80% 
  20 Magnificent       3732    8    8  1150   48%  3747   81% 
  21 Rybka III         3730    8    8  1150   47%  3747   82% 
  22 Ultra-Blitz       3729    8    8  1150   47%  3748   78% 
  23 Perfect 13        3727    8    8  1150   47%  3748   79% 
  24 Hitman 09/11      3714    7    7  1150   45%  3748   78% 
For More Details about 'In the Name of Number Ones' Championship:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-35

Best
Sedat

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