Breaking News (15.08.2024):
Current CS is ended...many thanks and my congratulations to all book authors!
Via latest new 6 (six) entries, the standings changed..especially Tunafish 3.1 is
Managed to gain higher points than previous Tunafish 3.0 so it seems stronger!
Plus AdrianOlivia, Oran etc. performed not bad.. but to be honest I've expected
More from the rest entries, anyhow I'm grateful to all, for their efforts, interest..
And a few more words about the Winner ( OPTIMUS ), yes...under these cond.
No doubt that Mr. Roger's book seems to be one of best public ones !! sure as
Same words are going for Mr. Hurnavich (Saphire), Mr. Hamdullah (HCanFree)!
Yes the cond. were hard, for anyone missed: all entries played vs private books
Created by Me...I mean simply that no much chances to train, gain, block.!) and
I assume also that experienced book makers understand perfectly what I mean)
Ok friends that's all for now... I hope to see you in next planning tours as well )
The Public Book Champion: OPTIMUS - Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-33
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/ClwmyYoS#ZRx_X01rU ... 4VFVtncf7c
Meanwhile, SF-CTG 240715 engine (by Mr. Tanick Ramz) is released:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/pXEugc24
Best,
Sedat
SedatChess
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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess
Hello Chess Friends,
As usually I am very pleased to announce that,
Here is another new Book / NN Championship!
1st of all, the current contest's target is simply that:
This time TREND books out because there is also other opening theory:
Short neutral openings, tuned + used for determining eng strength..and
Via this CS: to check well-known sources which prefer various openings!
And as usual, Perfect book's openings are as one of the strongest out..!
Why I say like that..? because Oliprog P23 book is tuned to prefer only
Perfect 2023 openings (based on recent data played in Oliprog tours),
Sure not only as best in this tour.. I refer from the past to the present..
In the end, a 'Perfect' name and this name should be deserved..right ?)
In same time once more we noticed Oliprog's produced data is not so
Bad in quality + strength, moreover it seems Mr. Adrian's machine is
Stable as a rock...otherwise I hardly doubt Oliprog P23 (Perfect 2023)
Would get these points but this is also true without strong openings:
No any way to be Number One, at least under these tour conditions,
For example, as clear proof is Oliprog others book,
Which is based on many others books (Perfect openings not included)
I mean simply that it's tuned to prefer other various books openings too..
Picture is perfectly clear from my side..I assume is clear for side too?!
And a few words about my latest new created SCCT opening book,
It's a micro one, almost 450 KB, based on Balsa + Unique openings,
I have older SCCT book, which seems to be stronger..but not played
As reason, my target to be not Chamoion anymore..once is enough..
In SCCT (since 2007) I never title my opening books as Champ! sure
Just out of curiosity I may test my Perfect 2024 (up to 8 moves) too,
Simply for fun... but anyhow, I have to create a newer book, which
Will be based and optimized to prefer others Top authors openings,
And I hope that I'll manage to create a stronger book, otherwise the
Ongoing XXXIV CS will remain as active and it will never end... !)
Note also that,
All my created books are very small, minis plus 1-2 MB and for
Each book creation, only wins are preferred.. (for less draw ratio)
And as databases, mainly their high-rated 2024 NN games used..
Where CCC, FCP, FRRL... not played, since their games are old,
But even if they were as players, I hardly doubt would be Champ,
Especially FCP + FGRL books are fighting for the last places..sad..
And for anyone missed too, once more I'd like to point out that,
The strong openings play as 'golden key' for best performance!
Where weak openings are 'catastrophe' for worst performance!
Sure fun is important but much 'fun' may down the quality, right?
Btw, what does it means a 'balanced' word?
Actually I use 'balanced/unbalanced' term too, but for car vehicles!
Yes, since NNUE: balanced word became popular in opening theory )
But it pronounced mainly by programmers, testers...but not by Me..
And who knows? maybe I'm missing something here? On other hand,
In reality, the situation is not so complicated as it looks, simply
The opening theory is divided into two groups: Weak and Strong!
If still not clear, Champion books prefer to play balanced openings?
No..no...they prefer to play the 'very' balanced openings... hehe ))
And meanwhile, if we place one's cards on the table:
My 6th sense says that, many guys have complexes to write the
Word 'critical' or 'weak' or 'bad' or 'strong' etc. openings.. really!
Besides, many are not aware, which line is strong or weak.. e.g
Some check openings strength via Eng outputs, e.g if close '0' then
They say balanced..strange ) forget everything, checking openings
With outputs is madness! In other words, I'd summarize all like that:
All that glitters is not gold! yes...proved, and guaranteed !)
Sure I can talk more...to give useful tips..but what will be changed ?
Again some may say: ridiculous for who use 'strong' openings...and
It seems in theirs eyes, all tours have to be with bad (weak) lines ))
Actually it's ridiculous who generate unusual mismatch stats numbers!
Yes...where theirs data is ending with wins almost all for Whites side!
And all these weak (bad, critical..) openings are useful? not of course..
At least for my side, they are simply waste of time.. no more no less..!
But anyhow, I don't feel any regret..just for computer chess progress!
And without to not mention this I can not as well,
Many books represent the latest strongest eng opening theory, e.g:
Oliprog P23, plus CEDR, SSDF, SCCT etc. are one of them for sure!
Plus theirs produced stats (draws + wins) are logical plus acceptable!
But unfortunately I can not say as same words for many others...e.g
Those weak ones prefer such lines like just born not to win, but to lose!
I mean in the weak books: mostly of the strong openings are missing...
In fact, chess is a ancient strategic game, playing by two color players,
And no any one is born to play great strategic moves...but it can be
Learned by hard work, practicing, trainings etc.. but definitely not only
Via Eng outputs...Believe Me..I'm in book making plus in serious tours
More than 25+ years...and I think that it's a long time and experience!
This is also true.. if not learning from the past, it's something like that:
You are a pawn that do not know it's a piece of chess game!
Be aware of that too (sure for more fair tour conditions again..),
Since current CS, plus future ones.. all Book Tourneys will be
Organized in 'SIZE' categories (as recent played Eng NN CS)
And I have good news as well:
Book (BIN + CTG) registrations will be allowed too...but up to 5 MB
Sure in uncompressed size, besides, another important note more,
Only those small books will be played out which prefer various lines...
In short, as players: at least 4 (four) main opening lines are required..
The Current Leader: Oliprog P23 - My Congratulations to Myself..!)
And urgently I wish to see other strong One but to be Number One...
FOR LATEST STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-34
Thanks for reading, interest.. and have a nice weekend )
Best,
Sedat
As usually I am very pleased to announce that,
Here is another new Book / NN Championship!
1st of all, the current contest's target is simply that:
This time TREND books out because there is also other opening theory:
Short neutral openings, tuned + used for determining eng strength..and
Via this CS: to check well-known sources which prefer various openings!
And as usual, Perfect book's openings are as one of the strongest out..!
Why I say like that..? because Oliprog P23 book is tuned to prefer only
Perfect 2023 openings (based on recent data played in Oliprog tours),
Sure not only as best in this tour.. I refer from the past to the present..
In the end, a 'Perfect' name and this name should be deserved..right ?)
In same time once more we noticed Oliprog's produced data is not so
Bad in quality + strength, moreover it seems Mr. Adrian's machine is
Stable as a rock...otherwise I hardly doubt Oliprog P23 (Perfect 2023)
Would get these points but this is also true without strong openings:
No any way to be Number One, at least under these tour conditions,
For example, as clear proof is Oliprog others book,
Which is based on many others books (Perfect openings not included)
I mean simply that it's tuned to prefer other various books openings too..
Picture is perfectly clear from my side..I assume is clear for side too?!
And a few words about my latest new created SCCT opening book,
It's a micro one, almost 450 KB, based on Balsa + Unique openings,
I have older SCCT book, which seems to be stronger..but not played
As reason, my target to be not Chamoion anymore..once is enough..
In SCCT (since 2007) I never title my opening books as Champ! sure
Just out of curiosity I may test my Perfect 2024 (up to 8 moves) too,
Simply for fun... but anyhow, I have to create a newer book, which
Will be based and optimized to prefer others Top authors openings,
And I hope that I'll manage to create a stronger book, otherwise the
Ongoing XXXIV CS will remain as active and it will never end... !)
Note also that,
All my created books are very small, minis plus 1-2 MB and for
Each book creation, only wins are preferred.. (for less draw ratio)
And as databases, mainly their high-rated 2024 NN games used..
Where CCC, FCP, FRRL... not played, since their games are old,
But even if they were as players, I hardly doubt would be Champ,
Especially FCP + FGRL books are fighting for the last places..sad..
And for anyone missed too, once more I'd like to point out that,
The strong openings play as 'golden key' for best performance!
Where weak openings are 'catastrophe' for worst performance!
Sure fun is important but much 'fun' may down the quality, right?
Btw, what does it means a 'balanced' word?
Actually I use 'balanced/unbalanced' term too, but for car vehicles!
Yes, since NNUE: balanced word became popular in opening theory )
But it pronounced mainly by programmers, testers...but not by Me..
And who knows? maybe I'm missing something here? On other hand,
In reality, the situation is not so complicated as it looks, simply
The opening theory is divided into two groups: Weak and Strong!
If still not clear, Champion books prefer to play balanced openings?
No..no...they prefer to play the 'very' balanced openings... hehe ))
And meanwhile, if we place one's cards on the table:
My 6th sense says that, many guys have complexes to write the
Word 'critical' or 'weak' or 'bad' or 'strong' etc. openings.. really!
Besides, many are not aware, which line is strong or weak.. e.g
Some check openings strength via Eng outputs, e.g if close '0' then
They say balanced..strange ) forget everything, checking openings
With outputs is madness! In other words, I'd summarize all like that:
All that glitters is not gold! yes...proved, and guaranteed !)
Sure I can talk more...to give useful tips..but what will be changed ?
Again some may say: ridiculous for who use 'strong' openings...and
It seems in theirs eyes, all tours have to be with bad (weak) lines ))
Actually it's ridiculous who generate unusual mismatch stats numbers!
Yes...where theirs data is ending with wins almost all for Whites side!
And all these weak (bad, critical..) openings are useful? not of course..
At least for my side, they are simply waste of time.. no more no less..!
But anyhow, I don't feel any regret..just for computer chess progress!
And without to not mention this I can not as well,
Many books represent the latest strongest eng opening theory, e.g:
Oliprog P23, plus CEDR, SSDF, SCCT etc. are one of them for sure!
Plus theirs produced stats (draws + wins) are logical plus acceptable!
But unfortunately I can not say as same words for many others...e.g
Those weak ones prefer such lines like just born not to win, but to lose!
I mean in the weak books: mostly of the strong openings are missing...
In fact, chess is a ancient strategic game, playing by two color players,
And no any one is born to play great strategic moves...but it can be
Learned by hard work, practicing, trainings etc.. but definitely not only
Via Eng outputs...Believe Me..I'm in book making plus in serious tours
More than 25+ years...and I think that it's a long time and experience!
This is also true.. if not learning from the past, it's something like that:
You are a pawn that do not know it's a piece of chess game!
Be aware of that too (sure for more fair tour conditions again..),
Since current CS, plus future ones.. all Book Tourneys will be
Organized in 'SIZE' categories (as recent played Eng NN CS)
And I have good news as well:
Book (BIN + CTG) registrations will be allowed too...but up to 5 MB
Sure in uncompressed size, besides, another important note more,
Only those small books will be played out which prefer various lines...
In short, as players: at least 4 (four) main opening lines are required..
The Current Leader: Oliprog P23 - My Congratulations to Myself..!)
And urgently I wish to see other strong One but to be Number One...
FOR LATEST STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-34
Thanks for reading, interest.. and have a nice weekend )
Best,
Sedat
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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess
UPDATE
Some Notes:
XXXIII Top tuned to prefer many high-rated books of recent BN XXXIII CS and
Frankly, no any chance to be Champ, exc. Drawish..plus with 52% win. perc.
And it seems, I have to check/create from other stronger sources.. for sure!
Meantime, I hope also that
You'll create and submit too
and let's see how good you are
Under these hard tour conditions...e.g playing with small data,
Plus with various openings.. is like to be on mountain Everest!
Greetings )
Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
0 XXXIII Top 12 7 450 51.7% 94.9%
1 SCCT 23 25 46 53.3% 93.5%
2 Oliprog others 0 0 44 50.0% 100.0%
3 Oliprog P23 -8 15 46 48.9% 97.8%
4 CEGT -8 15 46 48.9% 97.8%
5 SSDF -8 26 45 48.9% 93.3%
6 CEDR -16 21 44 47.7% 95.5%
7 ICCF -23 25 46 46.7% 93.5%
8 CCRL -23 25 46 46.7% 93.5%
9 TCEC -24 27 43 46.5% 93.0%
10 Wobli -32 30 44 45.5% 90.9%
450 of 1000 games finished.Some Notes:
XXXIII Top tuned to prefer many high-rated books of recent BN XXXIII CS and
Frankly, no any chance to be Champ, exc. Drawish..plus with 52% win. perc.
And it seems, I have to check/create from other stronger sources.. for sure!
Meantime, I hope also that
You'll create and submit too
and let's see how good you areUnder these hard tour conditions...e.g playing with small data,
Plus with various openings.. is like to be on mountain Everest!
Greetings )
Re: SedatChess
Thank you very much,Sedat.
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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess
UPDATE 2
And here are B/N XXXIV (30s+0.6s) Strength Results:
As we see, just 2 Elo difference in same time that means
Both Top engines are almost identical in performances...
Note: Mainly Unique suite, plus Balsa is used: 86% draw-ratio
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/DhQljACK#fvzAaVK6Q ... 5P1ylaIdAk
Note also that,
Another new update is coming soon as possible...at least
I can say, I managed to create several more strong books..
In other words, I am doing my best my used openings to be
Not remain on Top, as Number One...
Greetings
And here are B/N XXXIV (30s+0.6s) Strength Results:
As we see, just 2 Elo difference in same time that means
Both Top engines are almost identical in performances...
Code: Select all
1 SF-CTG 150724 +75/-69/=882 50.29% 516.0/1026
2 Incognito 5 Pro +69/-75/=882 49.71% 510.0/1026GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/DhQljACK#fvzAaVK6Q ... 5P1ylaIdAk
Note also that,
Another new update is coming soon as possible...at least
I can say, I managed to create several more strong books..
In other words, I am doing my best my used openings to be
Not remain on Top, as Number One...
Greetings
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Sedat Canbaz
- Posts: 1905
- Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:29 am
Re: SedatChess
The strength test games download only contains part chessbase file so will not open it is a grey file ext check your download after unzipping please you will see incomplete
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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess
You are right..try this file please, this time it should work:
https://mega.nz/file/m5whnYZA#KaLCmL8BL ... kdbvACL_q4