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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:57 am

Orgz wrote:
Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:50 pm
Given that its 30 seconds, the chances of white going for the absolute best move Ra5 (0.00) is very slim.
1st of all,
This is not my fault... ))

And that's true...I use mainly such Time Controls, where
The Book players are more potential to make mistakes or
Opposite ...in same time to gain more points as well ..)
And the most important...even I can say as GOLDEN key:
My simple target to appear FUN, that means WINS... )

One thing more, Forget about Blitz 3m+2s, 5m+2s etc.
Because there are better TC such as 25m+10s or 60m+10s etc
Believe Me.. all games will be flawless.. as perfect )

But do you know too, and sorry to say that
My hardware is not so cheap and to waste my time
For almost identical points...maybe others may try... but
I tried many time in past... so for nowadays I can not.. sorry...

By the way,
Actually to use slower TC etc. before submitting/releasing..is suggested !!
Why in my tours I had to use slower TC.. ?) in other words, I think that
This is as Book Author's job to find better ideas such as at 28th move !
For example, I do not recommend in your beta tests: at 28th as 30s+0.6s )
And it is much better to be used slow TC (for newer, stronger ideas...)
If still not clear, I am a TD, not as beta tester.. hole helps :) ... in short,
Come with well-prepared and stronger lines.. ) and then no doubt that
The books will be gain better... at least in SCCT..proved, guaranteed...!

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:16 am

ConRog wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:16 am
Hi Sedat,

I corrected this line for white because if you let the engines calculate next move after the good black move 28... Bg7, most of engines at short time controls will play 29. Rb4 which is a very bad move.

I corrected in OPTIMUS2407 to force engines to play 29.Ra5 which will lead to a draw.

Best regards.
Hello Roger,

Sounds not bad...but anyhow, I think that
Soon or later.. you have to focus over stronger line/s
Because, Whites should not fight for DRAW, right ?

Yes.. and impressive that your OPTIMUS series won vs many books (in past), but
What about nowadays, vs latest and strongest books, which are well-tuned.. ?)
Sure I refer for the current line..at 28th move (Bg7)

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:35 pm

Dear Chess Friends,

Meantime, just I'd like to inform you also that,
I've started a new strong Book CS, but this time
As Entries will be participated only Public books!

Some Notes,
It will be one of hardest tours organized ever! why I say like that?
- NON of the Public opening books will be played each other...!!
- New entries will be played only vs many new constant books!

And to be more clear,
This is a new idea..for the 1st time such contest will be organized..!
In same time, I strongly believe that the conditions will be more fair!

If still not so clear,
Give Me any public opening book and in short time,
Its strongest opening lines will be blocked..vs mine!
I mean the performance will be affected..and just
In case..my updated book will gain more points..!

But under the planning new tour cond. I hardly doubt that
The available public books players will suffer...and as usual,
I expect the strongest ones will be ranked at higher places!

And as 1st start,
I realized to test my new created constant books each other...
Note: all opening books are playing via SF-PB 150724 engine

Code: Select all

Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Champ 2023c                    42      22     117   56.0%   86.3% 
   2 Champ 2023d                    18      16     118   52.5%   93.2% 
   3 PCC + Lichess                  15      13     118   52.1%   95.8% 
   4 Plychess 2024                  11      16     122   51.6%   93.4% 
   5 Plychess 2023                   9      13     119   51.3%   95.8% 
   6 XXII 2nd League                 9      19     121   51.2%   90.9% 
   7 Lichess 2024                    6      17     116   50.9%   93.1% 
   8 XXXII 2nd League                6      16     117   50.9%   93.2% 
   9 XXXI 2nd League                 3      10     115   50.4%   97.4% 
  10 Champ 2022b                     0      11     119   50.0%   96.6% 
  11 FICS 2024                      -9      17     120   48.8%   92.5% 
  12 Champ 2023a                   -15      15     117   47.9%   94.0% 
  13 Champ 2023b                   -18      20     119   47.5%   89.9% 
  14 Champ 2022a                   -18      14     119   47.5%   95.0% 
  15 Champ 2020                    -18      14     119   47.5%   95.0% 
  16 Champ 2021                    -41      20     120   44.2%   88.3% 

948 of 4800 games finished.
And please stay tuned.. more info soon )

By the way,
I hope you like my new idea ?) any opinions welcome.. )


Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:52 pm

Thanks, Sedat.
Best regards

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:09 am

Homayoun wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:52 pm
Thanks, Sedat.
Best regards
YOU ARE WELCOME :difus_19

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jul 25, 2024 8:09 am

Breaking News (25.07.2024):
OPTIMIS OPTIMUS OPTIMUS... again and again Number One.. with 3817 Elo!
Stars, HCanFree, Stealth, Champions, DONfree... performed very good too!
And as we see...Success is no accident and just because is hard it does not
Mean to give up..try again..sooner or later..will open the door to success, but
Before harder work required..sure newer and stronger ideas are required too
And that's why as usual I say over:
No One can be on Top by the work of others at least with clear margin ahead!
And just a few words about my latest new created 25 constant opening books,
They are very small in size, minus plus 1 MB (uncompressed ) based on wins,
And mostly are tuned to prefer many players of SCCT Book Tours... in period
Between 2018-2024, but mostly of the openings are belonging to 2023-2024
But FICS, Playchess, Lichess etc books are not based on SCCT's databases
Be aware too I did not create books to be tuned to prefer Champions of 2024
As main reason, some of these Top books are already as current participants..
About Stars 2024a, which is doing not bad with incredible low draw perc. 90%
It's tuned to prefer the high-rated players, but which could not be Champions..
About SCCT 2024 book: tuned to prefer the latest Balsa, Unique's openings..
Ok...that's all for now exc. current games (1 Core, 30s+0.6s via SF-PB) can
Be counted in strength as MP, Blitz via Raubfish SC, to be sure see: Games
Note: the current strength test cond.(Raub vs SF-PB) were as 1 Core...but
Now imagine...e.g to be close in strength..needed more time or more cores..
And very soon, more Public books are planning to be played... Good Luck!

The Public Book Champion: OPTIMUS - Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!

FOR LATEST STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-33

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jul 25, 2024 11:36 am

UPDATE

Just I'd like make a announcement about ongoing XXXIII,
Due to interest...asking several books allowed or not:

Well, due to no much free time, plus for more fair cond.,
Only 1 (one) opening book is allowed (per author/month)!

And according to my experience over long past years,
It's much better to be concentrated over one version,
Than over many book versions..In this way, I expect
Your hand-crafted book will gain more, higher points!
Proved..guaranteed..sure I am talking for my side..

But after all..you are the BOSS !) Anyone is free..
No one in chains here..I'm just want to help, sharing
My experience with all of you...because in the past,
I worked so.. only over one version and frankly,
Perfect deep books's Elo points were not so bad!

Thanks for reading and hope helps )


Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:31 pm

Update 2

Meanwhile, without to not mention this.. I can not as well:

The most important thing is to fight, going beyond own limits,
Demonstrating courage, overcoming our fears and not giving up!

And in same time,
Be original, be fair..do not copy...show respect to others work!

And I think a author, who does these things..has already won!
In the end, what happens if we lose? What happens if we wins?
The trick should not be in outcome, but to be in a fun journey!

When we learn that it's not just about winning or losing,
It's more than that, sooner or later we'll start winning!

As final words,
Success comes from failure to failıre,
But without loss of hope, passion..!

By the way,
The ongoing CS will be active in the next month too,
And who knows?) maybe in September month as well..
So I plan to test more books in the next days, weeks etc.
But as I stated earlier,
Only 1 (one) opening book (from same developer) per month!

Have a nice day )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:25 am

Hello there )

1st of all,
SCCT B/N CS XXXIII salutes all BIN + CTG Book Authors !)
And this time, I've good news for CTG Book Authors too,
Because exc BIN, CTG books are already acceptable too!

And I wish to say thanks to all BIN + CTG programmers and
Special thanks to Mr. Tanick Ramz, for creating a powerful,
Stable, small in size etc.actually as other important thing,
SF-CTG 150724 is on same strength level as SF-PB 150724,
Moreover SF-CTG capable to use CTG + BIN book formats!

By the way, after quick checking:
So far the tested CTG books are preferred to play the
Green lines... plus CTG books were out when defeats!
This is really great..e.g some time ago, the defeats
Were used to play...and that was playing as bad role,
Where was leading to BIG disadvantage opening start..
But nowadays, it seems all right...

But note also that,
Cutechess's CTG tests are not same as under Fritz!
For examples, if no green line, then the engine is
Out of book, due to CTG engine strictly follows ıts
Book settings, but under Fritz: it continues to play..
Sure in case of disabling 'Only Green' then all the
Opening moves are preferring to be played out...

And as other main difference between both GUIs is that
Under Cutechess: CTG books are not capable to learn..
But this is also true, nowadays 'Learning' is not much
Effictive or important..e.g if strong opening lines, then
The Top Engines + Evalfile make very rarely mistake/s!
Exc. under handicapped cond. such as via old-dated slow
Hardware..or simply if using bad (weak) openings etc.
Besides, let's say that even if we will use weak engines or
Old hardware or weak (bad) opening etc. again and again
'Learning' is not so good idea..sure I refer for next entries,
Otherwise..the matches will be not fair at all, right ?

And if you going to ask,
What is main diff. between both book formats?
If based on same data, CTG is bigger in size,
But CTG is much easier to be tuned.. than BIN!
But for the Top Book Makers: they are 'good' in
Every format..at least the tours confirm this..and
Not only now..I refer from the past to the present!

And here are the latest new 'strength' results:
As we see... after serious data (1000 games),
No any Elo difference between both versions!
Because Balsa openings used...e.g via weaker
Opening suite..may appear some error margin..

Code: Select all

1   SF-PB 150724   +19/-18/=963 50.05%  500.5/1000
2   SF-CTG 150724  +18/-19/=963 49.95%  499.5/1000
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/b15VDSiT#0kAYhln8H ... lZYlMskSeE

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 30s+06s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN

As final words,
In ongoing XXXIII CS, I already started testing CTG
Opening books as well..!! yes.. now is your turn !)
In next days, I hope to see BIN + CTG releases too,
Thanks in advance..

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jul 27, 2024 1:10 pm

Breaking News (27.07.2024):
1st of all I have good news, since today: CTG opening books are acceptable!
Via latest update, 14 entries and many of them are performed very good..e.g
Especially impressive performance comes by SapHire, Skynet, Tunafish etc .!
But this is also true that in my eyes: HCanFree is one of current Champ too !)
You know..there are many newer vers. but they could not be in better position!
In other words, OPTIMUS + HCAN's techniques, databases... are really good!
Btw, due to SCCT name is taken since many years (by my side...) and against
Any kind of confusion..I realized to be edited (from SCCT) to Skynet 180724
And meanwhile, I have a small request from all authors,
Please don't name your book as 'SedatCanbaz' or 'Book' or 'Perfect or SCCT'
Yes, these names sounds not bad ) but often may lead to misunderstandings...
Sure as same words are going to all others book names, which already exist..
I am petty sure also mostly of you..are creating books from SCCT^s data..but
Anyhow...please..in this way..you will save my free time ..thanks in advance!
And note also that some book names are shorten e.g Various 18-20 means
Based on SCCT games played between 2018 - 2020 years, in same time
Includes a lot of various openings (tuned to prefer GMs, CCRL, SSDF etc.)

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-33

Best,
Sedat

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