Discussion about chess-playing software (engines, hosts, opening books, platforms, etc...)
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Homayoun
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by Homayoun » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:31 am
APOCALYPSE wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:56 pm
Homayoun wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:12 pm
Hello@ Apocalypse
Take it easy. All of us know that all the tests in chess forums are considered as fun tests although we like them very much , consider them with great appreciation and respect. Also all of us know that the difference between strength of stockfish and all it’s derivatives is almost near the epsilon. All of them are very very strong and valuable. Also we know that fluctuation is the nature of all derivatives and non of them are stable as stockfish itself. For example we see one version of shashchess is very strong and wins all derivatives tournaments, then the next version is
Almost weak comparing with other derivatives. This fact is seen for all derivatives: Eman, Brainlearn, Hazard , SFpro and others. Also all of us know the value of authors and developers works, like you, Tanick, Anton and others. So, just take it easy.
Best regards
I am absolutely calm as a boa constrictor — I just said what I think and know about this.
Regards.

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ZamChess
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by ZamChess » Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:49 am
Thank you very much, Tanick !
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ZamChess
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by ZamChess » Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:50 am
Thank you very much, Minutka15 !
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Triton6654
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by Triton6654 » Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:08 am
OrgZ wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:36 am
TEST BY Adrian
Hazard JigSaw v4.40_avx2 vs. SF-PRO 27-02-2024
Processor AMD A10 – 9700 R7,10 Compute Cores 4C + 6G - 3.50 GHz - RAM 8.00 GB - 64-bit operating system - x64 processor - Windows 10 Pro - 1024 mb hash Fritz 16 GUI – Permanent Brain: OFF – Both Engines Play with 4 Threads and Large Pages - Opening Book: Perfect 2023 ctg - Final Tablebases: Syzygy 3-4-5 pieces – NNUE: Hazard: nn-b1a57edbea57.nnue and nn-baff1ede1f90.nnue
Book Settings:
1.Tournament ON
2.Min games 0-35
3.Variety of play 150
4.Influence of learn 100
5.Learning strength 500
DESKTOP-TORM2PL, Blitz 4min+1seg 0
1 JigSaw v4.40_avx2 +1 +1/=499/-0 50.10% 250.5/500
2 SF-PRO -1 +0/=499/-1 49.90% 249.5/500
Games in PGN:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/mmvpvjaf ... 5.pgn/file
Congratulations OrgZ!
I wonder why U r using the opening book: Perfect 2023.ctg..
It will definitely result in a lot of draws..
If U wanna test out 2 very strong engines, U r try using some TCEC or UHO-2022 or UHO-2024 which consist of position will imbalances.
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OrgZ
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by OrgZ » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:50 am
Suites such as uho are for fun games. Perfect consists of solid openings. An engine winning in such a condition means something about that engine.
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Ghppn
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by Ghppn » Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:09 pm
Thanks a lot, OrgZ!