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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Mar 06, 2024 2:30 pm

Hello there )

Just I'd like to inform you also that,
I managed to run another new testings, played mainly to see
About Draw influences e.g if we going to increase Bullet TC
From 30s+05s to 1m+05s, then the DRAW difference is: 2
Yes.. the draws with 1m+0.5s is higher, but normal..since all
Of the engines have more time to think, so more draws on scene!
In same time that means less blunder moves, better quality games
But what about FUN?.. who cares ?) at least I care....you see)
E.g Raunfish SC or using Cfish 030820 was as clear prove !)
But sometimes we have to move on..boring if each time same..

Meanwhile, what is unusual, actually no any surprise that
Even under 1 Core, Ponder OFF, Bullet etc we see high draws!
To be more clear, if going to compare both strength results:
Bullet 30s+0.5s = 95% draws / Bullet 60s+0.5s= 97% draws

Btw, just if we using MP, PONDER ON, Blitz etc: 99% draws!
Sure I refer over my testings+Balsa...but I see sometimes
In other sources...these DRAW values are lower..and I assume
You know why..if not clear, here are one of main influences:
- Using weak openings play serious role over draw percentages
- Using wrong Eng, Hardware configurations play other role too
I mean for those.. who are beginners in Eng, Book testings..
- Even if using NON-stable chess GUIs... can play role too!
- Sure many other factors may play over the draw influences
E.g if running matches on unstable operating systems etc.

But just if matches on more optimal cond.. let's say Rapid,
Forget about to see wins...maybe in 200-300 games...?)
Sure I refer about NN engines with over than 3750+ Elo

In other words, what I'm trying to tell you..
I am doing my best to see more FUN... !)

And please stay tuned..soon as possible
New Rankings + Games will be shared...

Greetings )

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:16 pm

Well, here is mentioned new Bullet tour (1m+0.5s): with 97% draw ratio!
That means in same time, in 100 games: there are minus plus 3 wins...
So very likely I will set 30sec+0.6sec for the next planning Book CS...
At least, via 30s+06s it's expecting not so bad games, plus less draws...
Sure we will see more errors (blunder moves) via Bullet...but here is the key !
Otherwise, let's choose, use such conditions.. that engines will never make mistake )
Besides, I assume that you know already about my recent organized Duels:
Brainlrearn+Cool Iris Bullet Vs Kayra+Zeus Blitz
If you not aware.. Duel's played strength results are ended close to each other!
Sure some may not be so happy...but just in case of more time, cores etc
This time, FUN is going to be dead.. sorry..FUN comes as most important!
And as usual, I say over (who loves to see a lot of draws such as 97%-100% etc.)
What is point of using BIG umbrella..if no much rain on the horizon ?)

Btw, I realized to test some older versions, to see the influences...
So it is clear that even the former Champions are still not dead...!!

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1   Brainlearn 26.5     50.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.551.5 - 48.5**       302.5/600
2   SF POLY 220723      50.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.551.0 - 49.051.0 - 49.0 **      302.0/600
3   CoolIris 11.90 RM1  50.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.551.5 - 48.5  **     301.5/600  -7933.75
4   SF-PB 051123        50.0 - 50.049.5 - 50.550.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.551.0 - 49.0   **    301.5/600  -7935.50
5   Eman 9.90           49.5 - 50.550.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.550.5 - 49.549.0 - 51.0    **   298.5/600
6   SunLight 3          49.5 - 50.549.0 - 51.050.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.5     **  297.5/600
7   Incognito 5 Pro     48.5 - 51.549.0 - 51.048.5 - 51.549.0 - 51.051.0 - 49.050.5 - 49.5      ** 296.5/600
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 60s+0.5s, Balsa, 64 Hash, 4-MEN

GAMES (contains recent hash test games too):
https://mega.nz/file/rtpAFYLD#bYR55cvpL ... vsOAzviyaA

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:27 am

Hello Friends,

SCCT Bullet (30s+0.6s) Candidate CS, played in the name of
Next Book CS... which is planning to be started very soon!

As last entry: a new Raptora 2.3 vers. is participated as well...
Sure as alternatives, many other eng versions are entered too!
So it's clear that we see some Elo improvements than last year
But not much... as we see, Elo difference minus plus 5-10 Elo
And just if using more optimal cond. e.g MP, Blitz, Ponder ON
Then Elo difference is expecting to be less. e.g with slower
Time controls, maybe the Elo difference: 1-2 Elo? Who knows?)
Sure I mean in the period between 12 months (than last year)

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Rank Name              Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 Brainlearn 27    3780    2    2  2800   51%  3776   95% 
   2 CoolIris 11.80   3779    2    3  2700   50%  3776   96% 
   3 RapTora 2.3      3779    3    3  2400   50%  3776   96% 
   4 SF-PB 080124     3778    2    2  2800   50%  3776   96% 
   5 Raid v3.4        3778    2    2  2800   50%  3777   95% 
   6 Brainlearn 26.5  3778    3    3  2200   50%  3776   96% 
   7 Polyfish 140124  3778    2    3  2700   50%  3776   97% 
   8 CoolIris 11.90   3778    3    3  2100   50%  3777   96% 
   9 SF-PB 051123     3778    3    3  2200   50%  3776   96% 
  10 Patzer AI X256   3778    3    3  2100   50%  3776   96% 
  11 Eman 9.90        3778    2    2  2800   50%  3777   96% 
  12 DarkSisTer 8.50  3777    3    3  2000   50%  3776   97% 
  13 SF POLY 261123   3777    2    2  2700   50%  3776   96% 
  14 Killfish 231123  3776    3    3  2000   50%  3776   97% 
  15 Incognito 5 Pro  3776    2    2  2700   50%  3776   95% 
  16 Hazard 3.78      3775    3    3  2000   50%  3776   96% 
  17 Tactical 281023  3775    3    3  2000   50%  3776   97% 
  18 SF POLY 220723   3775    3    2  2700   50%  3777   95% 
  19 SunLight 3       3773    3    3  2100   50%  3776   95% 
  20 XTD 010723       3773    3    3  2100   50%  3776   96% 
  21 SpecTral 5.50    3773    3    3  2100   49%  3776   95% 
  22 AWOL Z11         3773    3    3  2100   49%  3776   95% 
  23 ShashChess 34.6  3771    3    3  1900   49%  3778   94% 
  24 Sawfish 2TC      3768    3    3  1500   49%  3776   94% 
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 30s+0.6s, Balsa, 64 Hash, 4-MEN
Note: In the beginning is started at 30s+0.5s but later switched to 30s+0.6s
In other words, mostly of the current games are played at TC: 30sec + 0.6sec

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/D5ginASb#r0qRGjiBY ... mnuNINhpmk

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:23 am

Great result, many thanks Sedat.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:40 am

Anton101 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:23 am
Great result, many thanks Sedat.

Not at all Anton )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:07 am

Anton101 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:23 am
Great result, many thanks Sedat.
+1

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:00 am

Homayoun wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:07 am
Anton101 wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:23 am
Great result, many thanks Sedat.
+1

You are welcome too )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:09 am

Hello there )

As usual, I am very pleased to announce,
I managed to start another New Book CS!

Some quick remarks,
Same book players are used so far...exception,
All playing at 30sec+0.6sec, 1 Core, 64 Hash

Note also that
Later newer book updates will be allowed...

And for the moment,
DON is the current Leader...Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!
And any Leader after 1000 games will be titled as Champ

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 DON 010324, SF-PB              14       9     450   52.0%   92.4% 
   2 SENTINEL 5, SF-PB              11       6     449   51.6%   96.0% 
   3 Unicornio-Final, Brain         11       6     450   51.6%   96.0% 
   4 TURKEY 2024, SF-PB             10       6     445   51.5%   96.2% 
   5 HCan 290224, Brain              9       7     446   51.3%   95.1% 
   6 Hazel 290224, Raid              9       8     446   51.2%   94.4% 
   7 ORIONPAX 5, SF-PB               7       7     445   51.0%   95.3% 
   8 Leschats 290224, Eman           6       8     448   50.9%   94.2% 
   9 Bronco 290224, SF-PB            3       7     448   50.4%   94.6% 
  10 Flavo R4, Raid                 -2       7     447   49.8%   94.6% 
  11 Pampa 2, Brain                 -2       9     446   49.8%   92.4% 
  12 SaiLfish 290224, Raid          -2       7     445   49.8%   95.1% 
  13 Dara 010324, Polyf             -4       5     447   49.4%   98.0% 
  14 TURKEY X, Incog                -5       9     447   49.3%   91.9% 
  15 Africaata 290224, Eman         -5       8     446   49.3%   93.7% 
  16 Spartacus AQ2, Brain           -9       6     444   48.8%   96.2% 
  17 Adrio 260224, Eman             -9       7     449   48.7%   95.1% 
  18 Slash 75, Brain               -12       9     446   48.2%   91.9% 
  19 Cevdet 020324, Cool           -14       8     443   48.0%   93.2% 
  20 Cevdet's Dual, Cool           -18       8     447   47.4%   93.1% 

4467 of 10260 games finished.
And please stay tuned.. more info very soon!

GOOD LUCK TO ALL )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:24 pm

UPDATE 2

And again and again,
3 Leading Books for right now: DON, TURKEY, Unicornio - Congrats !

Note: For future tours (including active tour) and since today,
Just in case of equal points... there will be tie break matches
In other words, only single (one) Champion will be titled...
This request was from TURKEY's authhor (Göktürk Göker) actually
I give him right...Ok. let's see what will be the next results..

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 DON 010324, SF-PB              11       7     806   51.6%   92.4% 
   2 Unicornio-Final, Brain         11       5     807   51.5%   95.4% 
   3 TURKEY 2024, SF-PB             11       5     808   51.5%   95.9% 
   4 SENTINEL 5, SF-PB              10       4     808   51.5%   96.5% 
   5 HCan 290224, Brain              9       5     807   51.4%   95.3% 
   6 ORIONPAX 5, SF-PB               9       5     806   51.2%   94.8% 
   7 Hazel 290224, Raid              8       6     806   51.1%   94.5% 
   8 SaiLfish 290224, Raid           4       6     807   50.6%   94.4% 
   9 Leschats 290224, Eman           2       5     806   50.3%   94.9% 
  10 Pampa 2, Brain                 -1       6     806   49.9%   93.5% 
  11 Dara 010324, Polyf             -2       4     805   49.8%   97.8% 
  12 TURKEY X, Incog                -2       6     806   49.7%   93.4% 
  13 Bronco 290224, SF-PB           -3       6     808   49.6%   94.3% 
  14 Africaata 290224, Eman         -5       5     806   49.3%   95.2% 
  15 Flavo R4, Raid                 -6       6     805   49.2%   94.4% 
  16 Spartacus AQ2, Brain           -8       4     808   48.8%   96.4% 
  17 Slash 75, Brain                -9       6     807   48.8%   92.8% 
  18 Adrio 260224, Eman            -12       5     807   48.3%   94.7% 
  19 Cevdet 020324, Cool           -13       5     805   48.2%   94.7% 
  20 Cevdet's Dual, Cool           -16       6     804   47.7%   93.2% 

8064 of 10260 games finished.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:05 pm

Hi Sedat
Thank you. Very strong book participants. Close results. Interesting tournament.
Greetings

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