SedatChess
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Re: SedatChess
Hello there )
Just I'd like to inform you also that,
I managed to run another new testings, played mainly to see
About Draw influences e.g if we going to increase Bullet TC
From 30s+05s to 1m+05s, then the DRAW difference is: 2
Yes.. the draws with 1m+0.5s is higher, but normal..since all
Of the engines have more time to think, so more draws on scene!
In same time that means less blunder moves, better quality games
But what about FUN?.. who cares ?) at least I care....you see)
E.g Raunfish SC or using Cfish 030820 was as clear prove !)
But sometimes we have to move on..boring if each time same..
Meanwhile, what is unusual, actually no any surprise that
Even under 1 Core, Ponder OFF, Bullet etc we see high draws!
To be more clear, if going to compare both strength results:
Bullet 30s+0.5s = 95% draws / Bullet 60s+0.5s= 97% draws
Btw, just if we using MP, PONDER ON, Blitz etc: 99% draws!
Sure I refer over my testings+Balsa...but I see sometimes
In other sources...these DRAW values are lower..and I assume
You know why..if not clear, here are one of main influences:
- Using weak openings play serious role over draw percentages
- Using wrong Eng, Hardware configurations play other role too
I mean for those.. who are beginners in Eng, Book testings..
- Even if using NON-stable chess GUIs... can play role too!
- Sure many other factors may play over the draw influences
E.g if running matches on unstable operating systems etc.
But just if matches on more optimal cond.. let's say Rapid,
Forget about to see wins...maybe in 200-300 games...?)
Sure I refer about NN engines with over than 3750+ Elo
In other words, what I'm trying to tell you..
I am doing my best to see more FUN... !)
And please stay tuned..soon as possible
New Rankings + Games will be shared...
Greetings )
Just I'd like to inform you also that,
I managed to run another new testings, played mainly to see
About Draw influences e.g if we going to increase Bullet TC
From 30s+05s to 1m+05s, then the DRAW difference is: 2
Yes.. the draws with 1m+0.5s is higher, but normal..since all
Of the engines have more time to think, so more draws on scene!
In same time that means less blunder moves, better quality games
But what about FUN?.. who cares ?) at least I care....you see)
E.g Raunfish SC or using Cfish 030820 was as clear prove !)
But sometimes we have to move on..boring if each time same..
Meanwhile, what is unusual, actually no any surprise that
Even under 1 Core, Ponder OFF, Bullet etc we see high draws!
To be more clear, if going to compare both strength results:
Bullet 30s+0.5s = 95% draws / Bullet 60s+0.5s= 97% draws
Btw, just if we using MP, PONDER ON, Blitz etc: 99% draws!
Sure I refer over my testings+Balsa...but I see sometimes
In other sources...these DRAW values are lower..and I assume
You know why..if not clear, here are one of main influences:
- Using weak openings play serious role over draw percentages
- Using wrong Eng, Hardware configurations play other role too
I mean for those.. who are beginners in Eng, Book testings..
- Even if using NON-stable chess GUIs... can play role too!
- Sure many other factors may play over the draw influences
E.g if running matches on unstable operating systems etc.
But just if matches on more optimal cond.. let's say Rapid,
Forget about to see wins...maybe in 200-300 games...?)
Sure I refer about NN engines with over than 3750+ Elo
In other words, what I'm trying to tell you..
I am doing my best to see more FUN... !)
And please stay tuned..soon as possible
New Rankings + Games will be shared...
Greetings )
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Re: SedatChess
Well, here is mentioned new Bullet tour (1m+0.5s): with 97% draw ratio!
That means in same time, in 100 games: there are minus plus 3 wins...
So very likely I will set 30sec+0.6sec for the next planning Book CS...
At least, via 30s+06s it's expecting not so bad games, plus less draws...
Sure we will see more errors (blunder moves) via Bullet...but here is the key !
Otherwise, let's choose, use such conditions.. that engines will never make mistake )
Besides, I assume that you know already about my recent organized Duels:
Brainlrearn+Cool Iris Bullet Vs Kayra+Zeus Blitz
If you not aware.. Duel's played strength results are ended close to each other!
Sure some may not be so happy...but just in case of more time, cores etc
This time, FUN is going to be dead.. sorry..FUN comes as most important!
And as usual, I say over (who loves to see a lot of draws such as 97%-100% etc.)
What is point of using BIG umbrella..if no much rain on the horizon ?)
Btw, I realized to test some older versions, to see the influences...
So it is clear that even the former Champions are still not dead...!!
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 60s+0.5s, Balsa, 64 Hash, 4-MEN
GAMES (contains recent hash test games too):
https://mega.nz/file/rtpAFYLD#bYR55cvpL ... vsOAzviyaA
Greetings
That means in same time, in 100 games: there are minus plus 3 wins...
So very likely I will set 30sec+0.6sec for the next planning Book CS...
At least, via 30s+06s it's expecting not so bad games, plus less draws...
Sure we will see more errors (blunder moves) via Bullet...but here is the key !
Otherwise, let's choose, use such conditions.. that engines will never make mistake )
Besides, I assume that you know already about my recent organized Duels:
Brainlrearn+Cool Iris Bullet Vs Kayra+Zeus Blitz
If you not aware.. Duel's played strength results are ended close to each other!
Sure some may not be so happy...but just in case of more time, cores etc
This time, FUN is going to be dead.. sorry..FUN comes as most important!
And as usual, I say over (who loves to see a lot of draws such as 97%-100% etc.)
What is point of using BIG umbrella..if no much rain on the horizon ?)
Btw, I realized to test some older versions, to see the influences...
So it is clear that even the former Champions are still not dead...!!
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1 Brainlearn 26.5 50.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.551.5 - 48.5** 302.5/600
2 SF POLY 220723 50.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.551.0 - 49.051.0 - 49.0 ** 302.0/600
3 CoolIris 11.90 RM1 50.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.551.5 - 48.5 ** 301.5/600 -7933.75
4 SF-PB 051123 50.0 - 50.049.5 - 50.550.0 - 50.050.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.551.0 - 49.0 ** 301.5/600 -7935.50
5 Eman 9.90 49.5 - 50.550.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.550.5 - 49.549.0 - 51.0 ** 298.5/600
6 SunLight 3 49.5 - 50.549.0 - 51.050.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.5 ** 297.5/600
7 Incognito 5 Pro 48.5 - 51.549.0 - 51.048.5 - 51.549.0 - 51.051.0 - 49.050.5 - 49.5 ** 296.5/600
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 60s+0.5s, Balsa, 64 Hash, 4-MEN
GAMES (contains recent hash test games too):
https://mega.nz/file/rtpAFYLD#bYR55cvpL ... vsOAzviyaA
Greetings
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Re: SedatChess
Hello Friends,
SCCT Bullet (30s+0.6s) Candidate CS, played in the name of
Next Book CS... which is planning to be started very soon!
As last entry: a new Raptora 2.3 vers. is participated as well...
Sure as alternatives, many other eng versions are entered too!
So it's clear that we see some Elo improvements than last year
But not much... as we see, Elo difference minus plus 5-10 Elo
And just if using more optimal cond. e.g MP, Blitz, Ponder ON
Then Elo difference is expecting to be less. e.g with slower
Time controls, maybe the Elo difference: 1-2 Elo? Who knows?)
Sure I mean in the period between 12 months (than last year)
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 30s+0.6s, Balsa, 64 Hash, 4-MEN
Note: In the beginning is started at 30s+0.5s but later switched to 30s+0.6s
In other words, mostly of the current games are played at TC: 30sec + 0.6sec
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/D5ginASb#r0qRGjiBY ... mnuNINhpmk
Best,
Sedat
SCCT Bullet (30s+0.6s) Candidate CS, played in the name of
Next Book CS... which is planning to be started very soon!
As last entry: a new Raptora 2.3 vers. is participated as well...
Sure as alternatives, many other eng versions are entered too!
So it's clear that we see some Elo improvements than last year
But not much... as we see, Elo difference minus plus 5-10 Elo
And just if using more optimal cond. e.g MP, Blitz, Ponder ON
Then Elo difference is expecting to be less. e.g with slower
Time controls, maybe the Elo difference: 1-2 Elo? Who knows?)
Sure I mean in the period between 12 months (than last year)
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Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 Brainlearn 27 3780 2 2 2800 51% 3776 95%
2 CoolIris 11.80 3779 2 3 2700 50% 3776 96%
3 RapTora 2.3 3779 3 3 2400 50% 3776 96%
4 SF-PB 080124 3778 2 2 2800 50% 3776 96%
5 Raid v3.4 3778 2 2 2800 50% 3777 95%
6 Brainlearn 26.5 3778 3 3 2200 50% 3776 96%
7 Polyfish 140124 3778 2 3 2700 50% 3776 97%
8 CoolIris 11.90 3778 3 3 2100 50% 3777 96%
9 SF-PB 051123 3778 3 3 2200 50% 3776 96%
10 Patzer AI X256 3778 3 3 2100 50% 3776 96%
11 Eman 9.90 3778 2 2 2800 50% 3777 96%
12 DarkSisTer 8.50 3777 3 3 2000 50% 3776 97%
13 SF POLY 261123 3777 2 2 2700 50% 3776 96%
14 Killfish 231123 3776 3 3 2000 50% 3776 97%
15 Incognito 5 Pro 3776 2 2 2700 50% 3776 95%
16 Hazard 3.78 3775 3 3 2000 50% 3776 96%
17 Tactical 281023 3775 3 3 2000 50% 3776 97%
18 SF POLY 220723 3775 3 2 2700 50% 3777 95%
19 SunLight 3 3773 3 3 2100 50% 3776 95%
20 XTD 010723 3773 3 3 2100 50% 3776 96%
21 SpecTral 5.50 3773 3 3 2100 49% 3776 95%
22 AWOL Z11 3773 3 3 2100 49% 3776 95%
23 ShashChess 34.6 3771 3 3 1900 49% 3778 94%
24 Sawfish 2TC 3768 3 3 1500 49% 3776 94%
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 30s+0.6s, Balsa, 64 Hash, 4-MEN
Note: In the beginning is started at 30s+0.5s but later switched to 30s+0.6s
In other words, mostly of the current games are played at TC: 30sec + 0.6sec
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/D5ginASb#r0qRGjiBY ... mnuNINhpmk
Best,
Sedat
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Great result, many thanks Sedat.
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Re: SedatChess
Hello there )
As usual, I am very pleased to announce,
I managed to start another New Book CS!
Some quick remarks,
Same book players are used so far...exception,
All playing at 30sec+0.6sec, 1 Core, 64 Hash
Note also that
Later newer book updates will be allowed...
And for the moment,
DON is the current Leader...Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!
And any Leader after 1000 games will be titled as Champ
And please stay tuned.. more info very soon!
GOOD LUCK TO ALL )
As usual, I am very pleased to announce,
I managed to start another New Book CS!
Some quick remarks,
Same book players are used so far...exception,
All playing at 30sec+0.6sec, 1 Core, 64 Hash
Note also that
Later newer book updates will be allowed...
And for the moment,
DON is the current Leader...Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!
And any Leader after 1000 games will be titled as Champ
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 DON 010324, SF-PB 14 9 450 52.0% 92.4%
2 SENTINEL 5, SF-PB 11 6 449 51.6% 96.0%
3 Unicornio-Final, Brain 11 6 450 51.6% 96.0%
4 TURKEY 2024, SF-PB 10 6 445 51.5% 96.2%
5 HCan 290224, Brain 9 7 446 51.3% 95.1%
6 Hazel 290224, Raid 9 8 446 51.2% 94.4%
7 ORIONPAX 5, SF-PB 7 7 445 51.0% 95.3%
8 Leschats 290224, Eman 6 8 448 50.9% 94.2%
9 Bronco 290224, SF-PB 3 7 448 50.4% 94.6%
10 Flavo R4, Raid -2 7 447 49.8% 94.6%
11 Pampa 2, Brain -2 9 446 49.8% 92.4%
12 SaiLfish 290224, Raid -2 7 445 49.8% 95.1%
13 Dara 010324, Polyf -4 5 447 49.4% 98.0%
14 TURKEY X, Incog -5 9 447 49.3% 91.9%
15 Africaata 290224, Eman -5 8 446 49.3% 93.7%
16 Spartacus AQ2, Brain -9 6 444 48.8% 96.2%
17 Adrio 260224, Eman -9 7 449 48.7% 95.1%
18 Slash 75, Brain -12 9 446 48.2% 91.9%
19 Cevdet 020324, Cool -14 8 443 48.0% 93.2%
20 Cevdet's Dual, Cool -18 8 447 47.4% 93.1%
4467 of 10260 games finished.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL )
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Re: SedatChess
UPDATE 2
And again and again,
3 Leading Books for right now: DON, TURKEY, Unicornio - Congrats !
Note: For future tours (including active tour) and since today,
Just in case of equal points... there will be tie break matches
In other words, only single (one) Champion will be titled...
This request was from TURKEY's authhor (Göktürk Göker) actually
I give him right...Ok. let's see what will be the next results..
And again and again,
3 Leading Books for right now: DON, TURKEY, Unicornio - Congrats !
Note: For future tours (including active tour) and since today,
Just in case of equal points... there will be tie break matches
In other words, only single (one) Champion will be titled...
This request was from TURKEY's authhor (Göktürk Göker) actually
I give him right...Ok. let's see what will be the next results..
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Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 DON 010324, SF-PB 11 7 806 51.6% 92.4%
2 Unicornio-Final, Brain 11 5 807 51.5% 95.4%
3 TURKEY 2024, SF-PB 11 5 808 51.5% 95.9%
4 SENTINEL 5, SF-PB 10 4 808 51.5% 96.5%
5 HCan 290224, Brain 9 5 807 51.4% 95.3%
6 ORIONPAX 5, SF-PB 9 5 806 51.2% 94.8%
7 Hazel 290224, Raid 8 6 806 51.1% 94.5%
8 SaiLfish 290224, Raid 4 6 807 50.6% 94.4%
9 Leschats 290224, Eman 2 5 806 50.3% 94.9%
10 Pampa 2, Brain -1 6 806 49.9% 93.5%
11 Dara 010324, Polyf -2 4 805 49.8% 97.8%
12 TURKEY X, Incog -2 6 806 49.7% 93.4%
13 Bronco 290224, SF-PB -3 6 808 49.6% 94.3%
14 Africaata 290224, Eman -5 5 806 49.3% 95.2%
15 Flavo R4, Raid -6 6 805 49.2% 94.4%
16 Spartacus AQ2, Brain -8 4 808 48.8% 96.4%
17 Slash 75, Brain -9 6 807 48.8% 92.8%
18 Adrio 260224, Eman -12 5 807 48.3% 94.7%
19 Cevdet 020324, Cool -13 5 805 48.2% 94.7%
20 Cevdet's Dual, Cool -16 6 804 47.7% 93.2%
8064 of 10260 games finished.
Re: SedatChess
Hi Sedat
Thank you. Very strong book participants. Close results. Interesting tournament.
Greetings
Thank you. Very strong book participants. Close results. Interesting tournament.
Greetings