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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:34 am

IbaiBuR wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:41 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:22 pm
Agreed with one point here,
This thread is gone to different direction...
And my apologies from Raid's author

But I joined in this thread,
Simply because SolistaChess said that Raid is identical to SF...
Where no any prove that Raid is identical...at least via Simex...

Plus my target was simply that there are many engines,
Which are released as buggy (non-stable) ones...
And fun is more important than mentioned GPLv3 license...
This is my view...and I respect other opinions as well...

But you are wrong that Raubfish SC is bad...
Actually you are bad via this saying..hope helps !)
And prove that I am wrong...if you can not... please be careful...

And again and again you wrote nonsense .. please re-read again..
Actually you have seriously problems to read as before ...LOL

If not so clear, I never said that,
I do not care about GPLv3 license...I said: who cares ?

Btw, about your rest comments that I do not know how to test engines..
HEHE )) 19 years boy..will teach Me...where have you been before ??))
You have no clue what is going on my tournament machine for sure!

And as last words, remember that too,
I am more... than your age (in eng testings!) and hope helps...!

That's all

Greetings )
Yes, you dont know how to test that engines that you call buggy, people tried to help you but are you quite bullheaded and you dont like to accept that you were (and are) wrong! And you know what I am talking about, old man.

I will tell you whats going on in your tournament machine: Apart from book tests, the rest of the tests are irrelevant (specialy the ones with learning engines).

The author of Simex declared it DEAD for the NNUE engines era. You were told about this many times, but you still keep using this tool when Simex does not say anything about real differences now. If you carefully look at the code you will understand that the engine (Raid) is just Stockfish Dev + learning + polyglot book usage capabilities, as simple as that. The search is identical, so he should inform users about it instead of claiming it is a "different" engine with changes in search or similar.

But if your slow old brain probably does not let you understand it, dont worry. Less and less people care and respect your chess activities after they discovered your real character and personality, which is logical. Even you are banned in some forums...

If you say "who cares" that implictly implies that you dont care either... LOL.. You have big problems to express yourself then...

More than my age wasting your time and also money in useless tests (apart from the book ones).

Bye, bye...

I dont care about your next answers or replies, everything will be as before, I ignore you and you ignore me, better like that.
Either you are blind or something is wrong with you, identical? really. You are truly blind my guy. even my grandma can tell the difference apart from external features

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:50 am

Meanwhile,
Without to not mention this I can't as well...and happy reading )

I wonder too,
Why these 'clever' guys are so much affected from my activities?
I did not ask them... such as what do you think, but they love to
Say BAD words over my address...now even Raubfish is became BAD,
Only is left my tournament machine (2x EPYC) to be criticized...
But I expect everything from them, really and this is not a joke!!

And unfortunately this is not good for our chess community!
Sure I am referring about if Raubfish SC engine is bad, if so...
Can you create a own original and stable engine, which to be better...
Yes...very easy to attack....but I'd be happy instead of 'PAPERS'
All this fight to be with 'REAL' facts, but all in friendly way!!
Can you do that ? do you have such capacity? thanks in advance)

And I kindly warm everyone here, please, if you have no prove data..
STOP doing this... also saying such as: your engine is clone etc.
Meanwhile, your work is perfect or ?? if so... can you share ?
E.g serious ratings with games, but min 1000 games (per player)
And so far: I see mainly comments from them, no more...no less!
At least once come with serious rating + games.is it very hard ??
Sure If possible, via strong openings...you may know:
Via handicapped weak openings: the error margin can be too high...

On other hand (a note, who are beginners in chess..):
SF engine is not a good idea at all (for book tours),
As reason: no way to use BIN books, exc via Polyglot...
But even so...no way to set properly BIN book settings!
Besides, Stockfish is too DRAWİSH engine, just in case...
Exc. that many book authors may lose their interest...
I may lose my interest as well... as main reason, we may
See close to 98%-99% draws and these high draw values
Are expecting to appear even via fast time controls...
Sorry...I love chess, but not so much...and if still not so
Clear, what is the point, if almost all games will be ended
As draws....and frankly (at least I can say for my side):
FUN, STABILITY is one of the most important parts!!
And I assume for many other chess friends as well...

Btw, as you may see too, via latest tour: 88% draws !!
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-18

And if still not so clear ( for these kind of BRAINS):
Is there any other engine to be so strong (as Raubfish SC)
But to be via so low draw ratio, if you can't... please !!

If you are not aware...learn about the Elo performances:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... testings-5
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... s-37-blitz
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-36

If you say...not enough ... just let Me know please,
I may share many more Ratings...where via strong openings,
Raubfish SC's Elo difference is very small vs latest SF etc.

And as last words:
The way, which I work..and since many years..
Many even can not imagine for sure, really !
But anyhow, no BIG problem from my side...
If nothing else...now I feel much better.. )

Thanks for reading.. and have a nice day !)

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:47 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:50 am
Meanwhile,
Without to not mention this I can't as well...and happy reading )

I wonder too,
Why these 'clever' guys are so much affected from my activities?
I did not ask them... such as what do you think, but they love to
Say BAD words over my address...now even Raubfish is became BAD,
Only is left my tournament machine (2x EPYC) to be criticized...
But I expect everything from them, really and this is not a joke!!

And unfortunately this is not good for our chess community!
Sure I am referring about if Raubfish SC engine is bad, if so...
Can you create a own original and stable engine, which to be better...
Yes...very easy to attack....but I'd be happy instead of 'PAPERS'
All this fight to be with 'REAL' facts, but all in friendly way!!
Can you do that ? do you have such capacity? thanks in advance)

And I kindly warm everyone here, please, if you have no prove data..
STOP doing this... also saying such as: your engine is clone etc.
Meanwhile, your work is perfect or ?? if so... can you share ?
E.g serious ratings with games, but min 1000 games (per player)
And so far: I see mainly comments from them, no more...no less!
At least once come with serious rating + games.is it very hard ??
Sure If possible, via strong openings...you may know:
Via handicapped weak openings: the error margin can be too high...

On other hand (a note, who are beginners in chess..):
SF engine is not a good idea at all (for book tours),
As reason: no way to use BIN books, exc via Polyglot...
But even so...no way to set properly BIN book settings!
Besides, Stockfish is too DRAWİSH engine, just in case...
Exc. that many book authors may lose their interest...
I may lose my interest as well... as main reason, we may
See close to 98%-99% draws and these high draw values
Are expecting to appear even via fast time controls...
Sorry...I love chess, but not so much...and if still not so
Clear, what is the point, if almost all games will be ended
As draws....and frankly (at least I can say for my side):
FUN, STABILITY is one of the most important parts!!
And I assume for many other chess friends as well...

Btw, as you may see too, via latest tour: 88% draws !!
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-18

And if still not so clear ( for these kind of BRAINS):
Is there any other engine to be so strong (as Raubfish SC)
But to be via so low draw ratio, if you can't... please !!

If you are not aware...learn about the Elo performances:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... testings-5
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... s-37-blitz
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-36

If you say...not enough ... just let Me know please,
I may share many more Ratings...where via strong openings,
Raubfish SC's Elo difference is very small vs latest SF etc.

And as last words:
The way, which I work..and since many years..
Many even can not imagine for sure, really !
But anyhow, no BIG problem from my side...
If nothing else...now I feel much better.. )

Thanks for reading.. and have a nice day !)

Best,
Sedat

Mr Sedat i suggest you just do what i do best, that is to ignore IDIOTIC BLIND FOOLS who know nothing about coding like @ibaibur talk to them selves. His other stupid friend nemeth even saw that the files were not identical nnue n more files have been changed. but Ibaibur sees them as identical. so you see Mr Sedat their stupid opinions belong in the rubbish bin.

Ever since i started sharing there has been only one fool after me. he even attacked morales, Anton etc. its his hobby what can we say. just ugnore the fool. ;) i have never seen them having anything good to say to people besides being negative. SO fools like these dont deserve my energy

continues with you work Mr Sedat, let these fools bark, they can't bite ;)

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:13 pm

OrgZ wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:47 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:50 am
Meanwhile,
Without to not mention this I can't as well...and happy reading )

I wonder too,
Why these 'clever' guys are so much affected from my activities?
I did not ask them... such as what do you think, but they love to
Say BAD words over my address...now even Raubfish is became BAD,
Only is left my tournament machine (2x EPYC) to be criticized...
But I expect everything from them, really and this is not a joke!!

And unfortunately this is not good for our chess community!
Sure I am referring about if Raubfish SC engine is bad, if so...
Can you create a own original and stable engine, which to be better...
Yes...very easy to attack....but I'd be happy instead of 'PAPERS'
All this fight to be with 'REAL' facts, but all in friendly way!!
Can you do that ? do you have such capacity? thanks in advance)

And I kindly warm everyone here, please, if you have no prove data..
STOP doing this... also saying such as: your engine is clone etc.
Meanwhile, your work is perfect or ?? if so... can you share ?
E.g serious ratings with games, but min 1000 games (per player)
And so far: I see mainly comments from them, no more...no less!
At least once come with serious rating + games.is it very hard ??
Sure If possible, via strong openings...you may know:
Via handicapped weak openings: the error margin can be too high...

On other hand (a note, who are beginners in chess..):
SF engine is not a good idea at all (for book tours),
As reason: no way to use BIN books, exc via Polyglot...
But even so...no way to set properly BIN book settings!
Besides, Stockfish is too DRAWİSH engine, just in case...
Exc. that many book authors may lose their interest...
I may lose my interest as well... as main reason, we may
See close to 98%-99% draws and these high draw values
Are expecting to appear even via fast time controls...
Sorry...I love chess, but not so much...and if still not so
Clear, what is the point, if almost all games will be ended
As draws....and frankly (at least I can say for my side):
FUN, STABILITY is one of the most important parts!!
And I assume for many other chess friends as well...

Btw, as you may see too, via latest tour: 88% draws !!
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-18

And if still not so clear ( for these kind of BRAINS):
Is there any other engine to be so strong (as Raubfish SC)
But to be via so low draw ratio, if you can't... please !!

If you are not aware...learn about the Elo performances:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... testings-5
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... s-37-blitz
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-36

If you say...not enough ... just let Me know please,
I may share many more Ratings...where via strong openings,
Raubfish SC's Elo difference is very small vs latest SF etc.

And as last words:
The way, which I work..and since many years..
Many even can not imagine for sure, really !
But anyhow, no BIG problem from my side...
If nothing else...now I feel much better.. )

Thanks for reading.. and have a nice day !)

Best,
Sedat

Mr Sedat i suggest you just do what i do best, that is to ignore IDIOTIC BLIND FOOLS who know nothing about coding like @ibaibur talk to them selves. His other stupid friend nemeth even saw that the files were not identical nnue n more files have been changed. but Ibaibur sees them as identical. so you see Mr Sedat their stupid opinions belong in the rubbish bin.

Ever since i started sharing there has been only one fool after me. he even attacked morales, Anton etc. its his hobby what can we say. just ugnore the fool. ;) i have never seen them having anything good to say to people besides being negative. SO fools like these dont deserve my energy

continues with you work Mr Sedat, let these fools bark, they can't bite ;)

Thank you for your kind and useful suggestions dear Mr. Tanick
And I give you FULL right...the best weapon is to be in SILENCE!

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by IbaiBuR » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:32 pm

OrgZ wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:47 am

Mr Sedat i suggest you just do what i do best, that is to ignore IDIOTIC BLIND FOOLS who know nothing about coding like @ibaibur talk to them selves. His other stupid friend nemeth even saw that the files were not identical nnue n more files have been changed. but Ibaibur sees them as identical. so you see Mr Sedat their stupid opinions belong in the rubbish bin.

Ever since i started sharing there has been only one fool after me. he even attacked morales, Anton etc. its his hobby what can we say. just ugnore the fool. ;) i have never seen them having anything good to say to people besides being negative. SO fools like these dont deserve my energy

continues with you work Mr Sedat, let these fools bark, they can't bite ;)
What?! I know nothing about coding?! Are you sure about that? I am literally studying Computer Engineering at university (second course) and I have learnt some C, Java, Python, even assembly. You can check my GitHub profile if you want... I even coded some chess tools (which are quite simple but I doubt you would be able to code something similar...)

You are the one who knows nothing about coding, you are nothing more than a copy paster... Marco had to fix Raid for you a lot of times... Anyone can check the search.cpp file and it is veeeery easy with WinMerge to compare with the Stockfish Dev Eduard mentioned and see that the only change is in some comments... You have not made ANY modification except for adding Polyglot Books support + SugaR expV2 learning code.

Again, Eduard is not my friend but what he mentioned is true, take it or not... Dont try to fool people OrgZ, someone with a minimal understanding knows Raid is a literal copy paste... If not, point out which are the significant changes you have done, what did you code and why, and how did the code that you implemented works.

You are neither a developer nor a programmer (do you even have a github account?!), so relax and try to discuss without insulting and with respect.

Instead of stealing others work and renaming, you should give credit to them and not lie about your clone...

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Re: SedatChess

Post by STUDENT_MASTER » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:06 pm

IbaiBuR wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:32 pm
OrgZ wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:47 am

Mr Sedat i suggest you just do what i do best, that is to ignore IDIOTIC BLIND FOOLS who know nothing about coding like @ibaibur talk to them selves. His other stupid friend nemeth even saw that the files were not identical nnue n more files have been changed. but Ibaibur sees them as identical. so you see Mr Sedat their stupid opinions belong in the rubbish bin.

Ever since i started sharing there has been only one fool after me. he even attacked morales, Anton etc. its his hobby what can we say. just ugnore the fool. ;) i have never seen them having anything good to say to people besides being negative. SO fools like these dont deserve my energy

continues with you work Mr Sedat, let these fools bark, they can't bite ;)
What?! I know nothing about coding?! Are you sure about that? I am literally studying Computer Engineering at university (second course) and I have learnt some C, Java, Python, even assembly. You can check my GitHub profile if you want... I even coded some chess tools (which are quite simple but I doubt you would be able to code something similar...)

You are the one who knows nothing about coding, you are nothing more than a copy paster... Marco had to fix Raid for you a lot of times... Anyone can check the search.cpp file and it is veeeery easy with WinMerge to compare with the Stockfish Dev Eduard mentioned and see that the only change is in some comments... You have not made ANY modification except for adding Polyglot Books support + SugaR expV2 learning code.

Again, Eduard is not my friend but what he mentioned is true, take it or not... Dont try to fool people OrgZ, someone with a minimal understanding knows Raid is a literal copy paste... If not, point out which are the significant changes you have done, what did you code and why, and how did the code that you implemented works.

You are neither a developer nor a programmer (do you even have a github account?!), so relax and try to discuss without insulting and with respect.

Instead of stealing others work and renaming, you should give credit to them and not lie about your clone...
My apology Sir Sedat. but i have to put him in his place.

You ibaibur shit head, i even gave you a link of the source code you did nothing, u said nothing. What he does with the source code is is business not yours shit head. theres nothing in that head of yours but SHIT. All you do is Criticize. i have neither seen you complement anyone in a positive way. you and and that shit face Nemeth are both alike you both are shits. GO SHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE SHIT HEAD. Stop messing around other peoples threads. ill always be here, you wanna fight? ill fight you shit head

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Re: SedatChess

Post by IbaiBuR » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:16 pm

I love you too STUDENT_MASTER, sadly I dont see your post...

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Re: SedatChess

Post by STUDENT_MASTER » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:28 pm

IbaiBuR wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:16 pm
I love you too STUDENT_MASTER, sadly I dont see your post...

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Good shit head

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:34 pm

Breaking News - 18.10.2023:
Well, just another series of Blitz championships... and as we see here,
Under these cond. the strongest new trend openings say the last word!
About my created books Lion and DON, they can be counted old dated,
Especially Lion X, because you may know..when games are shared...
We can not expect a superior performance....same words are going
For many other old-dated books too..anyhow just a fun tournament
Btw, instead of 10, for more variety.. I added more Top book players!
And again and again EVEREST is EVEREST... managed Number One!
ORIONPAX is 2nd.. but another very serious and great book for sure!
DON Hercules 3rd and as usual, one of best..actually in current tour,
All rest books are just great...I'm sure in case of new move updates..
Their points would be better... but before 'tuning' is needed, right ?)
Note also that in the next days... the other BN CS XVIII may ended..
About current played games, I hope to share them soon..very likely
After when other tour will be over...thanks for your understanding

BN XIX's Champion: EVEREST - My Congratulations to Ivan Alekseev!

For Final Standings / More Details:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-19

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:44 pm

STUDENT_MASTER wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:06 pm

My apology Sir Sedat. but i have to put him in his place.

You ibaibur shit head, i even gave you a link of the source code you did nothing, u said nothing. What he does with the source code is is business not yours shit head. theres nothing in that head of yours but SHIT. All you do is Criticize. i have neither seen you complement anyone in a positive way. you and and that shit face Nemeth are both alike you both are shits. GO SHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE SHIT HEAD. Stop messing around other peoples threads. ill always be here, you wanna fight? ill fight you shit head
Dear STUDENT_MASTER,

You do not need to apology...you are free to post..
I have no much complexes...but on other hand,
Sad that all these discussions are not in friendly way..

Much better would be to build a bridge of good friendship..
In this short life...we should spend our energy and time
For better great things...but it seems it's hard via online!

Greetings

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