SedatChess

[OrgZ]

TC: 3+3.60

Raid exp OFF

Opening suite: adrian Oliver does tests yes. so i created my test suite from some of the games which he did. the openings correspond to openings which are found in bin books. so their normal strong openings. nothing else was added on the engines.

Interesting...and Congrats!

Because via NNUE 3700+ to see such low draw ratio: 67.5 %
Never seen before...sure I mean if testings via strong openings...
And of course, if we use and run tour with optimal test conditions too )

On other hand,
I wonder...Oliprog tests are usually close to 95-99% draws
That's why ...how did you manage ... ?)

Btw, can you share please your suite ?
And the played 200 games as well...

Later I may try tıo test and use your suite under
SCCT conditions as well....

Greetings

My bad seems i mixed info. Raid vs Raubfisch were using SCCT_Champ_182.pgn
my question is how are these results from your test suite?

OpenX 011023.pgn (my open suite created using Adrian test games)
was use by my personal Engine.
TC: 3+2.60
Score of Tanick X-011023_modern vs Raubfisch X48c3_nn_sl-avx2: 26 - 11 - 163 [0.537]
... Tanick X-011023_modern playing White: 16 - 5 - 79 [0.555] 100
... Tanick X-011023_modern playing Black: 10 - 6 - 84 [0.520] 100
... White vs Black: 22 - 15 - 163 [0.517] 200
Elo difference: 26.1 +/- 20.5, LOS: 99.3 %, DrawRatio: 81.5 %
200 of 200 games finished.

if you want OpenX 011023 i will send it to you

[OrgZ]

i have this question, i have always wondered about giving engines these SYZYGY, don't you think their the reason for a high rate of draws? i believe it messes with some interesting choices which an engine can take in a certain position. you have all the experience Mr Sedat.

look at these engines using OpenX 011023

Score of DeepSync 1 sl_modern vs Tanick X-011023_modern: 14 - 11 - 75 [0.515]
... DeepSync 1 sl_modern playing White: 8 - 5 - 37 [0.530] 50
... DeepSync 1 sl_modern playing Black: 6 - 6 - 38 [0.500] 50
... White vs Black: 14 - 11 - 75 [0.515] 100
Elo difference: 10.4 +/- 34.1, LOS: 72.6 %, DrawRatio: 75.0 %
100 of 100 games finished.

[OrgZ]

Mr Sedat why would i add low time control games to my book . all book games that i add are from TC 3+2 nothing less

Good... but actually it all depends...

For examples,
My produced Bullet games can be counted as Blitz on my older machines..
Or as other example, the played Blitz games can be counted as Rapid etc. e.g
2x EPYC 7B12 128 Cores/256 threads is one of fastest computers for chess...

If still not so clear,
You can check Bullet's power and your engine is another Hercules for sure :
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... gth-test-4
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... testings-3

Greetings

Handicap TC . not bad for SF-POLY.
Raubfisch authors were doing a good job hey. i wonder where they disappeared to

[Sedat Canbaz]

TC: 3+3.60

Raid exp OFF

Opening suite: adrian Oliver does tests yes. so i created my test suite from some of the games which he did. the openings correspond to openings which are found in bin books. so their normal strong openings. nothing else was added on the engines.

Interesting...and Congrats!

Because via NNUE 3700+ to see such low draw ratio: 67.5 %
Never seen before...sure I mean if testings via strong openings...
And of course, if we use and run tour with optimal test conditions too )

On other hand,
I wonder...Oliprog tests are usually close to 95-99% draws
That's why ...how did you manage ... ?)

Btw, can you share please your suite ?
And the played 200 games as well...

Later I may try tıo test and use your suite under
SCCT conditions as well....

Greetings

My bad seems i mixed info. Raid vs Raubfisch were using SCCT_Champ_182.pgn
my question is how are these results from your test suite?

OpenX 011023.pgn (my open suite created using Adrian test games)
was use by my personal Engine.
TC: 3+2.60
Score of Tanick X-011023_modern vs Raubfisch X48c3_nn_sl-avx2: 26 - 11 - 163 [0.537]
... Tanick X-011023_modern playing White: 16 - 5 - 79 [0.555] 100
... Tanick X-011023_modern playing Black: 10 - 6 - 84 [0.520] 100
... White vs Black: 22 - 15 - 163 [0.517] 200
Elo difference: 26.1 +/- 20.5, LOS: 99.3 %, DrawRatio: 81.5 %
200 of 200 games finished.

if you want OpenX 011023 i will send it to you

Now is clear...because Champ v182 is not so strong...

Sure...I will be happy to have your OpenX 011023 suite..

About using endgames (test on same pc),
4-men syzygy seems to be ok...to see and check real eng strength

Btw, some time ago I did a test 4 men vs 5 men:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... en-vs-5men

So..I could not see any Elo BIG difference...

Sure via giving more endgame pieces,
It is expecting to appear more draws...

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

Mr Sedat why would i add low time control games to my book . all book games that i add are from TC 3+2 nothing less

Good... but actually it all depends...

For examples,
My produced Bullet games can be counted as Blitz on my older machines..
Or as other example, the played Blitz games can be counted as Rapid etc. e.g
2x EPYC 7B12 128 Cores/256 threads is one of fastest computers for chess...

If still not so clear,
You can check Bullet's power and your engine is another Hercules for sure :
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... gth-test-4
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... testings-3

Greetings

Handicap TC . not bad for SF-POLY.
Raubfisch authors were doing a good job hey. i wonder where they disappeared to

As far as I know,
Since a year Raubfish authors are not active..

Yes.. your SF-POLY engine even via 1m+1s managed to break unbelievable records!

Keep up the good work and and thank you for all..

Greetings )

[OrgZ]

Thank you. Mail

[Sedat Canbaz]

Thank you. Mail

Thanks a lot

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News (07.10.2023):
The current championship is ended...congrats and many thanks to all !!
Reason, another new exciting book competitions are coming very soon..
Btw, Arasan 24X is tuned to prefer latest openings of original Arasan 24
Normally Arasan's own book is bin format, but not compatible, but under
SCCT conditions is nothing impossible..even latest DON ctg series here!
Other example, Feta X is bin, but tuned to prefer several Feta ctg books,
Also Cerebellum X is tuned to prefer several Cerebellum book versions
As creation's reason (instead of using Cerebellum 3M): for more variety!
Sure not all created by Me.. e.g Rebel 190822 is own book of Rebel 16,
Which recently participated in other organized championship too: Results
What I can say more, current entries performed higher than expected.. !!
Ok..that's all for now.and please stay tuned...more information very soon

Private Book Champion DON Hercules Congratulations to Vasid Chouhan!
Public Book Champion: SARI 300923 - My Congratulations to Cevdet Sarı!

For Final Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-16

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/r4REgL4a#bdFmJAOSq ... 7IkxeFdul8

Have fun,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News (07.10.2023):
The current championship ended too...congrats and many thanks to all !!
As reason, another new exciting book competitions are coming very soon..
Ok... that's all for now.and please stay tuned...more information very soon

Public Book Champion OPTIMUS Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!
Private Book Champion: DON Hercules - Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!

For Final Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-16

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/S1xlkJTQ#hGeZI0jDD ... Bm1toXX3Kw


Best,
Sedat

[Homayoun]

Breaking News (07.10.2023):
The current championship ended too...congrats and many thanks to all !!
As reason, another new exciting book competitions are coming very soon..
Ok... that's all for now.and please stay tuned...more information very soon

Public Book Champion OPTIMUS Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!
Private Book Champion: DON Hercules - Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!

For Final Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-16

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/S1xlkJTQ#hGeZI0jDD ... Bm1toXX3Kw


Best,
Sedat

Many thanks Mr. Sedat. It is difficult to manage book competition tournament to be exciting as the engines competition (it’s just my personal opinion).But you did it very well. I really enjoyed from this competition. Great work. Also congratulations to winners too.
Best regards