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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:44 pm

ConRog wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:08 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:34 am
Breaking News (04.10.2023):
Public Book Champion OPTIMUS Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!
Private Book Champion: Pimienta Congratulations to Angel Morano!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Greetings )
Thank you Sedat for organizing those big tournaments. Impressed to see very good result for your tiny 500KB book inspired by Don's best lines.

This shows exactly what I was thinking when I began making opening books : no need to have hundreds of MB in opening books files to obtain a strong book.

Congrats to Angel, Jorge and Hamdullah CAN also.

Best regards.
Hello Roger,

You are welcome )

Yes...and agreed ..what I can add:
DON Hercules book can be as very good example that
Micro books (in size) may have superior scores too!

On other hand,
We can not expect much from DON Hercules's openings e.g
To be Winner in every organized tour ..reason due to 500 KB
Actually DON could be perform better.. but is based on data,
Which played vs other TREND books (I mean not vs current vers)

Btw, please stay tuned..because your SENTINEL 2 is entered...
And so far, SENTINEL book's performance is not so bad too...
Who knows? perhaps.. both Champ Titles will be yours...?)

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:52 pm

Breaking News (04.10.2023):
Another new update for today, where 8 books are entered..and for right now
DON Hercules managed to be current Private Champion...just unbelievable!
In other words, another micro star is born but belongs to the brightest ones!
Note also 2 new books are currently under test: Hamish 5, LesChats 041023
And please stay tuned..after several hours, there will be new updates as well

Public Book Champion OPTIMUS Congrats to Roger Constantinesco!
Private Book Champion: DON Hercules - Congrats to Vasid Chouhan!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Good Luck )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:29 am

Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..


For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:34 pm

Many thanks , Mr. Sedat. Let’s see what will bethe results of this great tournament.
Best regards

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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:57 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:29 am
Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..


For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat
Congrats Conrog :difus_27
Thanks 4 the tour.....

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:09 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:34 pm
Many thanks , Mr. Sedat. Let’s see what will bethe results of this great tournament.
Best regards
Dear Mr Homayoun

Not at all..it is my pleasure and thanks for your replay..

Well, we will see...still not sure to continue running it or not.. but
Very likely I will end it.. and later I may run another NON-NNUE tour
Sure just in case of next time,
I will do my best to pick more close engines of 3600 Elo

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:12 pm

OrgZ wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:57 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:29 am
Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..


For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat
Congrats Conrog :difus_27
Thanks 4 the tour.....
Dear Mr. Tanick

You are welcome )

By the way, I wonder:
Which tour do you like more ?
I mean as NNUE book tour or the one as NON-NNUE ?

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:45 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:12 pm
OrgZ wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:57 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:29 am
Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..


For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat
Congrats Conrog :difus_27
Thanks 4 the tour.....
Dear Mr. Tanick

You are welcome )

By the way, I wonder:
Which tour do you like more ?
I mean as NNUE book tour or the one as NON-NNUE ?

Greetings )
I will have to go with no NNUE.
We are testing the book not the engine strength.
If its not nnue then the book with moves in many positions has advantage bcz if there's nnue now the book without moves will be saved.

Although games with nnue have quality but we don't really get to see the full performance of the book. The engine is doing the work not the book.

Thats my view Mr Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Ding-Bat » Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:53 pm

Totally agree with this +1
OrgZ wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:45 am
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:12 pm
OrgZ wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:57 pm
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2023 12:29 am
Breaking News (05.10.2023):
1st of all, OPTIMUS's performance is stable as stone, leading via 3635 Elo
Hamish 5, LesChats 041023 are entered and here are played results...Btw,
The latest LesChats 041023 is not same as previous LesChat 130923 vers
E.g in latest LesChats: White's main move d4 and as Black c5 are disabled,
Where in LesChat 130923 the mentioned main moves are enabled for play...
So it seems one of these factors played some worse role over performances...
E.g in my guess, if re-run LesChats130923, I expect close to 3627 Elo again..
On other hand, the new Hamish 5 performed slightly better than Hamish 4.1
And just out of curiosity, Feta X book plus new RofChade 3.1 are played too
Note also that the current tour is paused too...actually there are more books,
Which I could test.. but mostly of them are old-dated...so no BIG chances...
Be aware also that there is a possibility this tour to be ended in next days..


For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-17

Best,
Sedat
Congrats Conrog :difus_27
Thanks 4 the tour.....
Dear Mr. Tanick

You are welcome )

By the way, I wonder:
Which tour do you like more ?
I mean as NNUE book tour or the one as NON-NNUE ?

Greetings )
I will have to go with no NNUE.
We are testing the book not the engine strength.
If its not nnue then the book with moves in many positions has advantage bcz if there's nnue now the book without moves will be saved.

Although games with nnue have quality but we don't really get to see the full performance of the book. The engine is doing the work not the book.

Thats my view Mr Sedat

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