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[Sedat Canbaz]

Well, just a piece of advice, if you check "Experience book", the engine will only repeat what it has learned ad nauseam, if by chance there is an error and you lose the engine in "X opening", it will continue to lose no matter how many times you repeat that opening ...For the engine to "learn", you must play with the "Experience book" disabled. Now, if you think that the engine dominates "X number of openings" then activate "Experience book".

Regards.

Thank you ...

[Anton101]

You welcome!

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News - 12.09.2023:
The current championship is ended too... congrats and thanks to all authors!
Normally the tour was planning to be resumed, but I've lost my interest for two
Main reasons, 1st due to very high draw perc. and as we see 97% draw-ratio!
Really boring for my side, btw, as usual I say over (I mean since no much wins):
What is the point of using an umbrella, If no much 'rain' on horizon ?)
Right? and correct Me please if I am wrong here..?) and as 2nd main reason,
Just in case of new Exp entries: I expect the learning will make not much sense,
E.g (according to my other Gauntlet tests) via concurrent: 64, no BIG influence!
But I admit that e.g as current in Round-Robin tour (via concurrent: 64 games)
Then situation seems to be ok...due to in round-robin tours: too many players!
In short, via concurrent minus plus 10' is ok, but via higher... not so good idea!
Sure some may say such as: run via concurrent 10.. İf so .. will be really sad,
Because current tournament machine is based on 128 Cores / 256 Threads!
Like a huge BUS / PLANE (with many seats) but carries...a few passengers !)
And sorry that the current tour is not resumed ..but I think that will be pointless,
If we will run next Exp in Gauntlet conditions..btw here is another useful saying:
If everything were as it seems, the sea water you hold would be blue

For More Details, Standings, Games:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-ben-cs-1

Greetings )

[Homayoun]

Many thanks Mr. Sedat. Yes, At this level(+3750) and when all engines are from the same family(stockfish family) most games would be draw. But it was interesting and had it’s own joys.

Best regards

[Sedat Canbaz]

Many thanks Mr. Sedat. Yes, At this level(+3750) and when all engines are from the same family(stockfish family) most games would be draw. But it was interesting and had it’s own joys.

Best regards

Dear Mr. Homayoun

Thank you for your interesting comments as usual )

Yes..without trying, testings etc...we can not know reality, right ?)

Actually I expected to see high draws..but not so much, e.g I assumed
About 90%-95%, but 97% that's too much.. even played at 1 core, 1m+1s..
As other reason, in gauntlet: EXP will suffer if we use concurrent: 64 games etc.

Greetings )

At least

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News (12.09.2023):
What is new in this competition: Balsa openings used (instead of Unique..) plus
Main target, testing same qualified engines of Super League vs weaker engines,
Which are about 50-70 Elo, yes.. a new idea, new concept of testing..you know,
Many of us prefer weak openings to reduce the draw ratio...that's all right..and
As usual.if test via weak openings,then thousands of games (per player) required,
And now just opposite..matches vs weaker opponents+strong openings..and after
The tour..more info will be about the overall draws plus we will need thousands of
Games (per player) or not.. My view: 1000 games is enough...after all time will tell..
But there is one true, via strong openings is more safe..plus Elo difference is less..
And for right now we have too many Number ones, if I am not wrong 5 Leaders)
What a democracy under SCCT !)

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... nnue-cs-36



Best,
Sedat

[Anton101]

Mr. Sedat I will send you tomorrow an exp file for SpecTral...You will use only in "read learning mode" and this function will not affect the concurrencies games.

And you will see the results without any disturb between a trained exp file vs books (CTG or bin books)

I'll send you by email tomorrow morning 9:00 am, Mexico's time.

[Anton101]

In this "mode" the exp file won't grow, just gonna play the best moves learned in trainings.

And congrats to the "Dream team".

[Sedat Canbaz]

Mr. Sedat I will send you tomorrow an exp file for SpecTral...You will use only in "read learning mode" and this function will not affect the concurrencies games.

And you will see the results without any disturb between a trained exp file vs books (CTG or bin books)

I'll send you by email tomorrow morning 9:00 am, Mexico's time.

Mr Anton,

Sounds nice...

But about which tour do wish to be tested your new exp?
Perhaps do you mean to run a new DUEL : EXP vs BOOKS ?
Just in case.. we will need gendarmerie this time )))

If so...be aware of that, in gauntlet mode:
If I run in 64 concurrent , no any guarantee exp to learn properly..

Greetings

[Anton101]

Hi! You as the tour director will decide if it is vs the best books (bin or CTG). On the other hand, so that the experience file is not corrupted or so that it does not accumulate experience, you only have to check the "Experience enabled" and "Experience read only" boxes and Experience Book Min Depth at 18. That's all.

Regards.