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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:20 am

Anton101 wrote:
Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:56 pm
Many thanks!

Best regards.

A.Ces
Not at all dear Anton )

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:37 am

SCCT Duel - CorChess vs SF-PB is ended:
About +7 Elo (in favor for SF-PB 160823)

The Winner: SF PB - Congrats to Skynet, SF team!

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1   SF-PB 160823     +11/-5/=294 50.97%  158.0/310
2   Corchess 140823  +5/-11/=294 49.03%  152.0/310
The Overall Draw-Ratio (based on 310 games): 95%

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/OpxS1a4A#T_CAhwxYR ... SHNpWoz6Zs

More Details,
It's clear that the overall draw ratio is increased!
Actually nothing strange...reason, SF team seems to
Be working on optimizing over Evalfiles, plus since
Unique 170623 suite is publicly available so I assume
That is easier vs current opening lines (to be tuned)
E.g as reference/evidence, when current openings were
As private..then the overall draws were about 85%-90%
E.g now, as we see the overall draws are close to 95%
I mean, Unique openings are became drawish as Balsa!
Btw, I have to keep next newer Unique ver as private)
If nothing else,
We'll see more fun for sure...at least for my side!

As final words, it's clear also that:
Mostly of SF-PB vers perform not bad via SCCT conditions!)


Best,
Sedat

Homayoun
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:14 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 8:37 am
SCCT Duel - CorChess vs SF-PB is ended:
About +7 Elo (in favor for SF-PB 160823)

The Winner: SF PB - Congrats to Skynet, SF team!

Code: Select all

1   SF-PB 160823     +11/-5/=294 50.97%  158.0/310
2   Corchess 140823  +5/-11/=294 49.03%  152.0/310
The Overall Draw-Ratio (based on 310 games): 95%

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/OpxS1a4A#T_CAhwxYR ... SHNpWoz6Zs

More Details,
It's clear that the overall draw ratio is increased!
Actually nothing strange...reason, SF team seems to
Be working on optimizing over Evalfiles, plus since
Unique 170623 suite is publicly available so I assume
That is easier vs current opening lines (to be tuned)
E.g as reference/evidence, when current openings were
As private..then the overall draws were about 85%-90%
E.g now, as we see the overall draws are close to 95%
I mean, Unique openings are became drawish as Balsa!
Btw, I have to keep next newer Unique ver as private)
If nothing else,
We'll see more fun for sure...at least for my side!

As final words, it's clear also that:
Mostly of SF-PB vers perform not bad via SCCT conditions!)


Best,
Sedat
Thanks. Interesting as always. It seems that SFpb is very stable like stockfish itself. Not only this test, all of the tests that I have studied, show this fact.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:21 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:14 pm
Thanks. Interesting as always. It seems that SFpb is very stable like stockfish itself. Not only this test, all of the tests that I have studied, show this fact.
Not at all.. and agreed )

So once more proved its tittle that
In case of non-learning engines:
SF-PB is SF-PB, reality is reality!

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:23 pm

Hello there )

I'm pleased to announce, I managed to organize new match:
SCCT Duel - Patzer AI 220823 AVX2 Vs TACTICAL 220823 AVX2

1st of all,
Thanks to both Authors..otherwise this Duel would not exist!

Note also that,
The current idea is born after checking the played results:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3494&start=40

To be more clear,
Sure, my used test conditions are different than OrgZ member
So and as we know, depending on cond. the results may vary..
As other influence is played: our used openings are not same!
And if determining real strength: playing more games better!

The Winner: TACTICAL - My Congratulations to Anton Ces!

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Standings via ChessBase:                     
1   TACTICAL 220823   +36/-31/=571 50.39%  321.5/638
2   Patzer AI 220823  +31/-36/=571 49.61%  316.5/638

Standings via CuteChess:  
Score of TACTICAL 220823 vs Patzer AI 220823: 36 - 31 - 571 [0.504]
...      TACTICAL 220823 playing White: 33 - 5 - 281  [0.544] 319
...      TACTICAL 220823 playing Black: 3 - 26 - 290  [0.464] 319
...      White vs Black: 59 - 8 - 571  [0.540] 638
Elo difference: 2.7 +/- 8.7, LOS: 72.9 %, DrawRatio: 89.5 %
638 of 638 games finished.
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/v54DgThZ#LVDN5Sbda ... Bxq78_1cBg

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, HT+LP OFF, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+1s, 128 MB Hash, 4-MEN
A private Unique opening suite version is used, played each opening line as twice
Note also that all the current matches are played via GUI's concurrent option: 64

Best,
Sedat

Homayoun
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:17 pm

Many thanks

Anton101
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:22 pm

Mr. Sedat, thank you very much for the test. I am very interested in that suite with which this duel has worked. As soon as you release this suite I will use it to measure the progress of the four engines with which I update (two public and two private engines).

Best regards for you and OrgZ.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:42 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:23 pm
Hello there )

I'm pleased to announce, I managed to organize new match:
SCCT Duel - Patzer AI 220823 AVX2 Vs TACTICAL 220823 AVX2

1st of all,
Thanks to both Authors..otherwise this Duel would not exist!

Note also that,
The current idea is born after checking the played results:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3494&start=40

To be more clear,
Sure, my used test conditions are different than OrgZ member
So and as we know, depending on cond. the results may vary..
As other influence is played: our used openings are not same!
And if determining real strength: playing more games better!

The Winner: TACTICAL - My Congratulations to Anton Ces!

Code: Select all

Standings via ChessBase:                     
1   TACTICAL 220823   +36/-31/=571 50.39%  321.5/638
2   Patzer AI 220823  +31/-36/=571 49.61%  316.5/638

Standings via CuteChess:  
Score of TACTICAL 220823 vs Patzer AI 220823: 36 - 31 - 571 [0.504]
...      TACTICAL 220823 playing White: 33 - 5 - 281  [0.544] 319
...      TACTICAL 220823 playing Black: 3 - 26 - 290  [0.464] 319
...      White vs Black: 59 - 8 - 571  [0.540] 638
Elo difference: 2.7 +/- 8.7, LOS: 72.9 %, DrawRatio: 89.5 %
638 of 638 games finished.
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/v54DgThZ#LVDN5Sbda ... Bxq78_1cBg

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, HT+LP OFF, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+1s, 128 MB Hash, 4-MEN
A private Unique opening suite version is used, played each opening line as twice
Note also that all the current matches are played via GUI's concurrent option: 64

Best,
Sedat
Marvelous😁.
Thank you for the test Mr Sedat. Congratulations 🎉 Anton. The engine that gives my engines problems Tactical😅😅 .Anton, Thanks mate

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:37 pm

Best regards dear OrgZ.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:21 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:17 pm
Many thanks
Not at all Mr. Homayoun)

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