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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:26 am

Hello Friends,

Meanwhile,
In next 2-3 weeks, I am planning to be on Holiday..

So.. please do not worry much...I am all right )

Sure later when I'll have more free time ...
I will try to be active again..at least on forums )

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by ZamChess » Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:07 pm

Okay. Take care of yourself.
I wish you a pleasant and joyful holyday.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:42 pm

deeds wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:59 pm
Waiting Rulleeeee sends us the exp file that Sedat used for his "1st test", i checked the conformity with the experience data of an older Rulleeeee's exp :
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I never saw kind of ultra low rate :(

Maybe with the right Rulleeeee's exp file, these stats will be better...
I checked the conformity with the experience data of Rulleeeee_280723.exp (courtesy of Rulleeeee) :
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So 50% of the moves played by Eman 8.91 were not in conformity with the Rulleeee's experience file.
We have a new confirmation that the SCCT tourney's conditions were not valid in 2022 and still are not valid in 2023.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:36 pm

ZamChess wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 12:07 pm
Okay. Take care of yourself.
I wish you a pleasant and joyful holyday.
Thanks a lot my friend

Have a great weekend )

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:53 pm

deeds wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:42 pm
deeds wrote:
Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:59 pm
Waiting Rulleeeee sends us the exp file that Sedat used for his "1st test", i checked the conformity with the experience data of an older Rulleeeee's exp :
Image
I never saw kind of ultra low rate :(

Maybe with the right Rulleeeee's exp file, these stats will be better...
I checked the conformity with the experience data of Rulleeeee_280723.exp (courtesy of Rulleeeee) :
Image

So 50% of the moves played by Eman 8.91 were not in conformity with the Rulleeee's experience file.
We have a new confirmation that the SCCT tourney's conditions were not valid in 2022 and still are not valid in 2023.
Frankly, I have no any idea
About what you are talking...

By the way,
I have doubts, are you hacker ? actually
Even if you are best expert on hacking etc.
You have 0 (zero) chances to hack my PC, due
To no internet connection on 2x EPYC 7B12!

Besides, SCCT- BOOK / EXP / NNUE's
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-ben-cs-1
Data (all games + books + exp files) is not shared to anyone!

So, all of your published screenshots...
Are meaningless...at least for my side!

Hope helps..

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:07 pm

@ to Chameleon (Deeds)

Meanwhile,
Why you do not organize a real competition (under serious conditions):
For example, let's say a new book / exp tour ? but be sure next time :
The played moves to be NOT as GUI moves (Deeds Brilliant ideas)

By the way, another friendly recommendation:
Take paper + pencil and write, (you know word flies, but writing remains)
Use strongly / follow the book settings (suggested by authors )

If still not so clear,
Exc. SCCT BOOK / EXP tour, will be nice to see as alternatives!
You may know... more better...!)

Hope this helps too )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by deeds » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:15 pm

Sedat wrote: Frankly, I have no any idea
About what you are talking...
I know it and it was expected !

Experience files aren't opening books that's why even after testing opening books for years you still are unenlighted about experience files.

As finally you admitted you understand nothing about conformity with experience data, it means you understand nothing about how engines use their experience files.

If one day you understand what you did, don't forget to apologize to MZ (stockfishmz / eman.exp), AlexChess (proteussf / khalid.exp) and Rulleeeee (unique v50 / 50% of conformity).

The good news for all : no need blablabla anymore !

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:45 pm

deeds wrote:
Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:15 pm

If one day you understand what you did, don't forget to apologize to MZ (stockfishmz / eman.exp), AlexChess (proteussf / khalid.exp) and Rulleeeee (unique v50 / 50% of conformity).

The good news for all : no need blablabla anymore !
Hey Chameleon :)

Forget everything, do you know ? )
The main difference between you and Me is that:

1. You have NOT done even 0.1% of my chess activities!

2. But just in case of lies, attacks, fake accounts etc.
You are 100% better than Me..TONS of Bullshit for sure..!!
And this is already proved not once but many many times!

3. You are far away from good humanity, understanding etc.
I can talk more, but what will be changed... ??

Btw, apologies for what ?
Come on...do not get more LAUGH.. :D LOL

That's All,
I do not want to talk more with you!
It's enough..because such people like you
Are simply hopeless...I assume exc. Me
Many chess friends can confirm this..!!

Bye, Bye

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:30 am

One thing more,
This posting is not going to Chameleon(Deeds),
Because this guy is hopeless plus he has no
Clue what is going on...but it's going to new
Incommers who missed or not aware about...

To be more clear
Over the past years, I stated many times that
Larges Pages as enabled is not so good idea...
The reason, in case of running long-eng matches,
We can not expect so accurate results, because
The hardware's speed may down / affected etc..
Large pages can be very useful, if analyzing-mode!
But be very careful... if long-running eng matches!
In other words, use it in your own risk!

Btw, as far as I noticed (according to Deeds),
Large Pages are enabled on his used hardware..
What I can say more, not all are able to learn...
Btw, there is such good saying:
Spoon, whistle cannot be made from any tree!

Forget everything,
Deeds is tried to fool many times all the people..
Such as saying GUI moves, incomplete games etc.
And this is also true that without my checking:
We'd not know his bullshit... reality is reality!
Plus Deeds's mathematic is really bad..and this is a fact!
E.g he made serious mistakes in 'f4' games counting:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3648&start=10
Ok..I can understand if Deeds's age was under 5

What is interesting also, Deeds loves to say,
Apologize from some authors, but he missed to say
I have to apologize from RapTora's author/s..hehe ))
So what does it mean? maybe RapTora 2.2 is able
To learn better or properly under SCCT's cond. ?

Meanwhile,
Not sure about who have to apologize .. from authors...e.g
Deeds is used many times with wrong book settings etc.

And as final words,
Now Deeds can publish any testings, screenshots etc.
Even via games..but sorry, I lost my trust to him..because
Liar will not be believed even when he speaks true!


Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:10 am

Hello there )

Well, before taking a good rest..I realized to share some
Data: based since 2021, but mostly belongs to 2022 / 2023

To be more clear,
Here are useful competitions, e.g now we can compare
SCCT's learning engines as best performance statistics!

So it is clear that,
Their eng learning effect played as serious role, otherwise
I hardly doubt they'd get so high points and to be Winners!
Plus as other PROOF, we noticed in latest recent testings,
E.g Eman and RapTora are started to perform better in next
Re-run testings...and very likely the learned exp helped...

Eman 8.91: Winner of SCCT (2m+1s) Duel - Eman Vs RaptoRa

Eman 8.91: Winner of SCCT (2m+1s) NNUE Championship XXXIV

RapTora 2.2: Winner of SCCT (1m+0.6s) NNUE Championship XXXIII

RapTora 2.2: Winner of SCCT (1m+1s) NNUE Championship XXXII

SugaR AI SE: Winner of SCCT (2m+1s) NNUE Championship XXXI

RapTora 2.2: Winner of SCCT (2m+1s) DUEL-Book vs Experience III

StockfishMZ 170522: Winner of SCCT (2m+1s) NON-NNUE CS VI

Raubfisch X48e: Winner of SCCT (2m+1s) NNUE Championship XXI

Eman 6.91+SugaR AI 1.40: Winners of SCCT (3m+2s) Handicapped CS II

Eman 6.91: Winner of SCCT (3 min) NNUE Championship IV


By the way,
I still believe in that, e.g in SCCT - BOOK / EXP / NNUE I,
A super strong exp file (well-prepared, much trained vs books),
Can be as Champ or if nothing else to be as one of Top ranks..

And meanwhile, for example:
RapTora exp managed to be Winner vs Books (in Duel III...)
And in next time/s, why not other/s ?)
If at first you don't succeed, try again and again!
A failure is just another step.. closer to success!
But before, I suggest harder work...otherwise no BIG
Chances... because the current Top books are really
Very dangerous...proved many times in older tours!

Best,
Sedat

Note also that,
Due to Openchess forum's rules, I could not publish all tour links...
Otherwise, forum gives error message..e.g if I try sharing all links:
Your message contains too many URLs. The maximum number of URLs allowed is 5.

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