when a daily tester lies to people...

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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:20 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:20 pm
Just let me know, and I'll send you the engines and the exp files.

Regards.

A.Ces.
Hello Anton,

Yes..please and I'd be very glad
If you send exp files + engines

Thanks in advance
Sedat

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Anton101 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:32 pm

Ok...

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Anton101 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:05 pm

Done!

Check your email, please.

Best regards.

A.Ces.

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:25 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:05 pm
Done!

Check your email, please.

Best regards.

A.Ces.
Many thanks..

Yes, I checked, even I started downloading...

I saw a mail with name: Chess Engines AC

Is it yours ?

Greetings

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:40 pm

By the way,

After checking.. I noticed that
The eng and exp versions are slightly old-dated

For example, I mean
My latest tested Top engines are stronger than the ones you sent:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-ben-cs-1

Not sure exactly, but about 10-20 Elo difference may appear...
Sure I mean in case of test as without pre-learned exp files

Anyhow, just out of curiosity I may test some of them..
If nothing else, we will have some chances to compare..

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Anton101 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:54 pm

As I explained in the email, those experience files are based on those engines I sent, for example the BrainLearn exp file, it won't work with the latest version. Just as Deeds' work is not based on Eman 9.31, all of his work is on Eman 8.40.

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:12 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:54 pm
As I explained in the email, those experience files are based on those engines I sent, for example the BrainLearn exp file, it won't work with the latest version. Just as Deeds' work is not based on Eman 9.31, all of his work is on Eman 8.40.

Regards
Thanks for the replay...

I see... and I stated before,
I will try to test some of them...or at least one..

Btw,
Do you know about these exp files are trained vs books ?

If not...then very likely these exp files will suffer...vs books

To be more clear,
I am looking for a very strong exp...to be as Champion !)
If nothing else... to be at least as serious candidate...

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Anton101 » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:04 pm

Just SugaR exp...

The other two under Deed's technique.

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:27 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:04 pm
Just SugaR exp...

The other two under Deed's technique.
Nice...then very likely I will try to test SugaR exp

Because Deed's techniques are Business's techniques!

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Re: when a daily tester lies to people...

Post by IbaiBuR » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:46 pm

DeeDs techniques are best techniques to train engines, believe it or not, but there is already a loooot of evidence of this...

He has been giving us tools an recommendations for almost a year and a half already...

I know your relationship with DeeDs is not good Sedat, but, believe it or not, DeeDs is the best expert in self learning chess engines so far, and thats a fact (I am not the only one saying it lol)

You may or may not like the price of the experience file or the fact that he sells it instead of sharing it (I understand that he doesnt just give it away for free and thats all too, he has been working on it for so much time to just give it for nothing), but no one has put the effort he has put over training an engine...

I know you have been testing openings books for so much years, thats your field for sure and you have expertise there, but not with learning engines, you already demonstrated that.

Anyways, I hope you understand...

Regards,

Ibai

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