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[Sedat Canbaz]

@deeds, can you please send a link to the old experience file Khaled shared at infinity chess as you say?

Oh... again you are on wrong place (like Eman 9.2 thread),
If you are really looking for Deeds, he has other own thread/s
Just check more carefully..I am sure that you will find...!

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Chess Friends,

I plan to organize a new exp tournament, where
Almost all engines will be played as without books!

In short,
I hope to test mainly the engines, which
Are capable to learn..be aware of that too,
Some engines will be played via pre-learned
Experience files, sure where available...

Note also that,
Some engines will be played without Exp files!
In this way, we'll see the influences as well

Also as another alternative,
I may include some Top books too! in this way,
We'll have chances to see opening book's power too!

About the planning learning engines:
RapTora, LittleBeast, Eman, BrainLearn

Btw, if you have any new experience file,
Please just let me know... I may test it too!

And please stay tuned, soon more details!

Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Update

So far,
5 (five) exp files are entered:
3 Eman.exp / 2 RapTora. exp

That would be great of course, if someone will submit for the rest:
BrainLearn and for LittleBeast, otherwise both will play with no exp...

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

Tournament page is created, for more details please check:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-ben-cs-1

[Sedat Canbaz]

Update

1st of all, against any confusions:
Exp/eng players e.g'Eman.exp' will be re-named to:
Cubail, Eman (that means Cubail's exp via Eman 8.91)

And if I'm going to give more examples:
Khalid, Eman or AlexChess, RaptoRa etc.

In other words,
1st Publisher's exp name, 2nd Engine

About Book/Engine player names,
Just one example: CachoSCCT, SF-PB

Meanwhile,
Here are the Experience file entries so far:

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Engine       Experience  Modified    Publisher
Eman 8.91    Africaata   07.07.2023  Jorge Centelles
Eman 8.91    Eman        25.06.2023  Cubail/Cevdet
Eman 8.91    Eman        03.05.2023  Rulleeeee
Eman 8.91    Eman        02.07.2022  Khalid Omar
RaptoRa 2.2  Raptora     22.06.2023  Ding-Bat 
RaptoRa 2.2  Raptora     01.03.2023  Anton Ces
RaptoRa 2.2  ProteusSF   28.07.2022  AlexChess

Some Notes:
Soon a new exp may enter too (by Mr.Hurnavich),
Just in case.. will be played by LittleBeast 2!

Btw, according to my quick beta testings:
ProteusSF.exp is suitable via RaptoRa 2.2!
But unfortunately not via rest tested engines!
Including BrainLearn 25.1 + LittleBeast 2 too!

And here are the planing Top opening books,
Which will be played by SF-PB 060623 engine:

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Opening Book     Modified    Book Author
CachoSCCT        19.04.2023  Angel Morano     
ChessBot 170623  17.06.2023  Cubail/Cevdet
Hamish 4.1       20.04.2023  Ian Hurnavich  
HCanFree Upd     26.05.2023  Hamdullah Can
Leschats 140623  14.06.2023  Jorge Centelles
OPTIMUS 3.1      22.05.2023  R.Constantinesco
SkynetSCCT 10.1  21.04.2023  SkyNet/Alex
V                12.05.2023  Kerveros

Note: Newer book versions are not allowed, otherwise
No chances to compare with previous played results!
Later I may test newer..but will depend on my free time

Ok.. that's all for now..but this is also true that
A new tour idea...I mean many details for sure!
Anyhow as before, I will do my best!

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News - 09.07.2023:
Finely I've managed to start one of my most exciting competitions!
And here are current rankings (after 1209 games), yes.. the tour is
Just in the beginning..anyhow it's clear that mostly opening books
Have a good start..on other hand, Ruleeeee's exp and Anton's exp
Are performing not so bad so far note also that each participant will
Contain min 600 games..so in next rounds everything may happen!
After all time will tell..but I admit that HCanFree is very dangerous!!
Sure as same words are going for many other Top players as well...
Btw, NoBook, SF-PB means SF-PB 060623 is playing without Book,
Where NoPreExp means Engines are without Pre-Learned Exp files
More details very soon and once more many thanks to all authors...
And no doubt that without you, this tour would not exist! and please
Don't take too seriously the played results..just fun tour, simply enjoy!

For Current Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-ben-cs-1

Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Breaking News - 09.07.2023:
1st of all, and once more: the EXP files are played as without opening books
To be more clear, tour's main target is to see the Engine Learning influence...!
As I stated before, Book opening theory is much more experienced than Exp...
So nothing strange with the current played results..actually 600 games can be
Considered as good data..but still not enough...e.g according to my other tours
Engine learning strength/power is more affective after serious amount games...
Not sure exactly..but after 1000 games per player, the situation may different..
And as usual: HCan is Number One..that means a lot, public book plus free!
On other hand, no BIG surprise that 2nd place is belonging to V by Kerveros
Yes...Kerveros is Kerveros.. he is one of the best talents in our book making!
Very interesting..4 books (CachoSCCT, ChessBot, OPTIMUS, Hamish): 3rd
Btw, good performance by Brainlearn 25.1, even without Pre Learned Exp..
Plus AlexChess (PtoteusSF), Ding-Bat, Anton exp.. performed not bad too!
One thing more, for anyone missed, Anton exp is same one played: Results
A few words about last ranked player (Khalid, Eman), same Exp ver Results
In short, it seems even via Eman engine suffers a lot..but not so important...
Because these kind of tours are just for FUN...not as World Championship!
Ok friends, the tour is paused, but will be resumed probably after 2 months
Take care and stay safe...and thanks a lot for your interest... see you later )

The Current Leader: HCanFree Upd - My Congratulations to Hamdullah Can!

For Latest Standings.
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-ben-cs-1

For More Details/News:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -cs-1-news

Best,
Sedat

[Eduard Nemeth]

Unfortunately, the supposedly best player on PlayChess (H.C.) is a only a cherry picker. He does not play in autoplayer mode and only selects special opponents manually, against whom he probably only wins through killer games. The saved 104 games were only played against 5 opponents. That's sad because it means his other merits don't mean anything to me. Someone just wants to make themselves important and just show off. I basically put such players on ignore, they don't deserve anything else, sorry.

[Eduard Nemeth]

Here is the photo of a good player, this is what it looks like when someone plays well and has good elo. I chose the picture at random.



This player plays a lot. If you play a lot, you also have a lot of stored results (390). If you only play a little, the stored results will become fewer and fewer. In the picture you can see that this player is currently in 7th place. He has 3161 Elo on PlayChess. From his last 15 games alone, he had 10 different opponents because he was playing in autoplayer mode. Such games are tough, that's why he only has a balanced record. But that's normal. This player is better than H.C. Only 40 Eo less in autoplayer mode and no cherry picking, that's great.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello Mr Eduard Nemeth,

Thanks for your replay...

About your current posted screenshots, comments...
Really I have no any idea about what is going Online nowadays,
Because my last played games on PlayChess (in Engine Room)
Was about 14 years ago, Btw, for anyone missed, PlayChess 2009:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... tober-2009

On other hand (about your all statements etc.) I think that,
Mr. Hamdullah Can is right person who can talk with more details...

But anyhow, there is one true,
SCCT is not Online...where all are playing on same PC!
And HCanFree book's performance is outstanding so far!

Greetings