opening book vs experience file

[deeds]

In the era of learning engines, are there still opening books published without a defensive line after g4 d5

I confess that I don't know, here we haven't checked many books yet, for the moment all the other books have at least one line of attack/defense :



For leschats it's different because its author trains Eman so he knows the learning opportunities.

I regularly update my website so you will see the stats of other books during the year...

[deeds]

i forgot these ones :

agarta.bin

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a2a3 : .....3 moves
a2a4 : ....31 moves
b2b3 : ....17 moves
b2b4 : .....1 moves
c2c3 : ....74 moves
c2c4 : 10 000 moves
d2d3 : ....75 moves
d2d4 : 10 000 moves
e2e3 : ....84 moves
e2e4 : 10 000 moves
f2f3 : .....0 moves
f2f4 : .....3 moves
g2g3 : ....77 moves
g2g4 : .....2 moves
h2h3 : ...140 moves
h2h4 : .....0 moves
b1a3 : .....1 moves
b1c3 : ....16 moves
g1f3 : 10 000 moves
g1h3 : .....2 moves

Opening Rate : 20%

Hubble 3.1.bin (old version)

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a2a3 : 10 000 moves
a2a4 : .3 732 moves
b2b3 : 10 000 moves
b2b4 : ....84 moves
c2c3 : 10 000 moves
c2c4 : 10 000 moves
d2d3 : ...545 moves
d2d4 : 10 000 moves
e2e3 : 10 000 moves
e2e4 : 10 000 moves
f2f3 : .....0 moves
f2f4 : 10 000 moves
g2g3 : 10 000 moves
g2g4 : .....1 moves
h2h3 : ...271 moves
h2h4 : .....0 moves
b1a3 : ....19 moves
b1c3 : 10 000 moves
g1f3 : 10 000 moves
g1h3 : .....0 moves

Opening Rate : 60%

But hey it's extremely rare nowadays.
I suspect book's authors know they will play against learning engines on online servers so they expand their books.

[botunnet]

But hey it's extremely rare nowadays.
I suspect book's authors know they will play against learning engines on online servers so they expand their books.

Completely unusable at school or in a club, kids can't even have fun with wacky openings.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Games ? you are really very funny...)))
Even if they are available...in PGN, CBH etc.
it does not mean that:
Your current played match conditions are fair....

People already know what you did several times :





So don't mess with me about fair conditions !

As long as you set learning engines in training mode (default settings) to make your unfair 1vs12 tourneys, you will never have any credibility in learning engines sphere.

Sorry to say that but,
You can not be normal...sad ((

A long time is gone..but you still live in past..))
Really, you are as nostalgic boring singer !)

By the way,
What about the 3rd Duel Experience vs Book ?
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-vs-exp-3

In other words,
May I ask you a few but very simple questions,
Then how RapTora's Experience is managed to win ?
Why did you not post screenshots, blame about 3rd duel ?

Plus, why are you so bad?
Is that can be the reason:
You refuse to read carefully, learn etc..

As other example:
I checked some of your book testings, believe me:
Just terrible...why I say like this:
You remember? you opened a thread on Outskirts
Asking about how to test books...I tried to help...
Unfortunately you did not follow my recommendations..
Where later I noticed also that exception Solista book bin..
Recently how you tested HCanFree book too!
Shame on you !!

[Anton101]

The only way to get out of doubt if exp file's training that Deeds claims is the way we should follow is that the Deed's experience file enters a tournament vs books (as RapTora did), Using that dev of EMAN engine that Deeds uses for training and, to keep this file without corruption of any kind, the exp file must be NOT updated during the games.

I don't see any other way to fix this. Sedat is undoubtedly professional and we all know he will ensure that the experience file does not fall into other hands.

But the most important thing... Will the training that the file has been subjected will be solid in real games?

It's up to Deeds of course.

[Sedat Canbaz]

The only way to get out of doubt if exp file's training that Deeds claims is the way we should follow is that the Deed's experience file enters a tournament vs books (as RapTora did), Using that dev of EMAN engine that Deeds uses for training and, to keep this file without corruption of any kind, the exp file must be NOT updated during the games.

I don't see any other way to fix this. Sedat is undoubtedly professional and we all know he will ensure that the experience file does not fall into other hands.

But the most important thing... Will the training that the file has been subjected will be solid in real games?

It's up to Deeds of course.

Dear Anton,

Thanks ..

But I am pretty sure in that
This guy (Deeds) will never show interest...because
The 'cowards' are only good in BLA BLA BLA,
But on real Arena.. they are like small cats!)

Anyhow,
Let's hope that I am wrong...

Greetings

[Anton101]

Regards.

A.Ces.

[Anton101]

On the other hand, let's look at it from a commercial point of view, Deeds should prove with third party test evidence (Sedat is the best and impartial), that his file is worth every penny.

Deeds' victory would confirm the commercial value of his work and not only that, a greater and better reputation.

Deeds, this is your chance boy, this is the time.

A.Ces.

[Sedat Canbaz]

One thing more

After checking more carefully Deeds comments (on screenshots)
I've got BIG laughing )) ...because nothing true in his comments!

Yes..Deeds tried to say that I am lying...
Because I named: Book vs Experience, where he tries to say us
The right tournament name should be as
12 Books vs 1 Experience

Really this guy needs good lesson/s plus doctor/s for sure !

Otherwise, if we follow Deeds sick mentality, just one example:
I have to name it such as SCCT 38 Books / NNUE CS XIV:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-bn-cs-14

And if the number of the books will be increased...
Then I have to change the tours name to total books number
Anything more else ??)))

Also in other Deeds comments,
He says that I run concurrent matches, where
Deeds tries to say us that it's unfair matches etc...
Let's forget about the 3rd Duel, actually
3rd Duel is played with concurrent matches too..

Ok.. if it is unfair..then what about these recent tours:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-33
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-32
I mean, in these tours too, all played with Concurrent matches
And the winners are those engines, with learning capacity!
So...Deeds is in wrong direction again... sad, but true..
Frankly, I am already tired with Deeds...far away from reality!

Plus I can talk more over rest his comments, but what will be changed ?

And it seems the best way,
I have to stay far away from him...

Greetings

[botunnet]

By the way,
What about the 3rd Duel Experience vs Book ?
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-vs-exp-3

Because since the first 2 tests no one believes in your unfair results we don't care loool