Fritz 18 BUG still exists in update version 17!

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Eduard Nemeth
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Fritz 18 BUG still exists in update version 17!

Post by Eduard Nemeth » Tue Jun 27, 2023 3:51 pm

Fritz 18 BUG still exists!

Diagram:
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8/8/8/5pp1/4k3/4P1K1/5P2/8 w - - 0 113

In this position today GUI 18 update version 17 continued to make the typical tablebase errors.

Diagram Fritz 18 version 17 with today's update:
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Fritz 18 version 10 (from August 2022):
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Since this has been going on for months, I recommend that everyone use version 10 of Fritz 18. Please do not update to version 17.
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Eduard Nemeth
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Re: Fritz 18 BUG still exists in update version 17!

Post by Eduard Nemeth » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:18 pm

Diagram with losing games from today on PlayChess:

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It's absolutely no fun!!

Example:

[Event "5 min, rated"]
[Site "Engine Room"]
[Date "2023.06.27"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Detlef Uter, Stockfish dev-20230"]
[Black "KERNEL PANIK, Veni Vidi Vici 22Ju"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D37"]
[WhiteElo "3114"]
[BlackElo "3124"]
[Annotator "0.44;0.20"]
[PlyCount "240"]
[EventDate "2023.06.27"]
[EventType "blitz"]
[TimeControl "300"]

1. c4 {B 0} a6 {B 0} 2. d4 {0.44/37 22} e6 {B 0} 3. Nc3 {0.41/42 9} d5 {B 0} 4. cxd5 {0.42/38 2} exd5 {B 0} 5. Nf3 {0.43/37 3} Nf6 {B 0} 6. Bg5 {0.41/36 3} Be6 {B 0} 7. e3 {0.35/42 4} Nbd7 {B 0 (d6)} 8. Bd3 {0.41/38 4} c6 {B 0} 9. h3 {0.31/42 26} Qc7 {B 0} 10. Bf4 {0.37/35 9} Bd6 {B 0} 11. Qd2 {0.41/31 2} O-O {B 0} 12. O-O {0.36/37 4} Rfe8 {B 0} 13. Rfe1 {0.33/30 3} Nb6 {B 0 (g6)} 14. b3 {0.31/31 3} Qe7 {B 0} 15. Bxd6 {0.35/29 2} Qxd6 {B 0} 16. Rac1 {0.31/32 18} a5 {B 0} 17. Qb2 {0.33/35 18} g6 {B 0} 18. a3 {0.33/43 15} Qe7 {B 0} 19. b4 {0.31/39 2} axb4 {B 0} 20. axb4 {0.29/37 2} Rec8 {B 0 (a4)} 21. b5 {0.35/31 3} Nbd7 {B 0 (c5)} 22. bxc6 {0.33/33 3} bxc6 {B 0} 23. Ne2 {0.34/37 2} Qa3 {B 0} 24. Qd2 {0.29/33 4} Qd6 {B 0} 25. Ra1 {0.27/37 13} c5 {B 0} 26. dxc5 {0.29/36 3} Nxc5 {B 0} 27. Nfd4 {0.29/35 2} Bd7 {B 0} 28. Rec1 {0.28/34 3} Qb8 {B 0 (ce4)} 29. Nf4 {0.29/37 3} Rxa1 {B 0} 30. Rxa1 {0.23/38 2} Nb3 {B 0} 31. Nxb3 {0.28/38 2} Qxb3 {B 0} 32. Ra6 {0.25/39 2} Rc6 {B 0} 33. Rxc6 {0.24/43 2} Bxc6 {B 0} 34. Qa5 {0.23/40 2} Qd1+ {B 0} 35. Kh2 {0.23/42 2} Qb3 {B 0} 36. Qc5 {0.19/57 4} Qb7 {0.20/38 14} 37. Qc3 {0.16/49 0} Ne8 {0.18/43 9 (e4)} 38. Kg1 {0.19/52 2} Qc7 {0.20/42 11 (d7)} 39. Qc5 {0.19/45 2} Qd6 {0.18/41 8} 40. Qb6 {0.16/54 0} h6 {0.23/44 5 (a8)} 41. Bc2 {0.16/59 2} Qc7 {0.22/42 3} 42. Qb2 {0.16/47 0} Qd6 {0.18/44 6} 43. Qb6 {0.16/49 0} Qc7 {0.18/42 5} 44. Qd4 {0.16/53 0} Qd6 {0.18/47 4} 45. Bd1 {0.19/43 0} Nf6 {0.18/42 5} 46. Bc2 {0.16/45 0} Bb7 {0.16/43 16 (g7)} 47. Bd3 {0.15/43 3} Bc6 {0.15/40 7} 48. Bc2 {0.13/46 0} Bb7 {0.14/42 8} 49. Bd3 {0.13/50 0} Bc6 {0.14/41 5} 50. Qb2 {0.13/46 1} Ne4 {0.14/51 3 (d7)} 51. Qa1 {0.13/47 3} Qf6 {0.14/45 5 (c5)} 52. Qa6 {0.13/57 2} Kg7 {0.14/44 4 (d6)} 53. Qa7 {0.13/73 2} Kg8 {0.14/39 5} 54. Bxe4 {0.13/52 0} dxe4 {0.10/43 3} 55. Qa6 {0.13/50 0} Kg7 {0.13/43 9} 56. Qa5 {0.10/52 0} Qb2 {0.14/47 5 (d6)} 57. Qa6 {0.07/46 4} Qf6 {0.10/41 4} 58. Qa3 {0.10/49 1} h5 {0.06/44 4 (e5)} 59. Ne2 {0.07/47 1} h4 {0.03/49 3 (b7)} 60. Qa6 {0.03/56 1} Bd7 {0.03/45 4} 61. Qa2 {0.03/51 0} Be6 {0.03/48 3 (e5)} 62. Qb1 {0.00/52 1} Qe5 {0.03/62 3} 63. Nd4 {0.00/47 0} g5 {0.03/53 7 (d5)} 64. Nc6 {0.00/63 2} Qc3 {0.00/54 3 (d5)} 65. Nd4 {0.00/60 1} Qd2 {0.00/53 1 (d7)} 66. Nxe6+ {0.00/64 1} fxe6 {0.00/57 3} 67. Qa1+ {0.00/59 0} Kf7 {0.00/57 3} 68. Qa7+ {0.00/60 0} Kf6 {0.00/59 4 (g6)} 69. Qa1+ {0.00/63 2} Kf5 {0.00/58 3 (f7)} 70. Qf1 {0.00/75 1} Kg6 {0.00/59 4 (d5)} 71. Kh2 {0.00/65 1} Kf5 {0.00/60 3} 72. Qb5+ {0.00/63 0} Qd5 {0.00/55 2} 73. Qf1 {0.00/64 0} Qe5+ {0.00/56 3 (d6+)} 74. Kg1 {0.00/74 1} Qd5 {0.00/56 0} 75. Qe1 {0.00/64 1} Kf6 {0.00/61 3 (g6)} 76. Qa1+ {0.00/84 1} Kg6 {0.00/58 4} 77. Kh2 {0.00/64 0} Qd6+ {0.00/59 2} 78. Kg1 {0.00/68 0} Qd5 {0.00/57 3} 79. Kh2 {0.00/67 0} Qd6+ {0.00/60 3} 80. Kh1 {0.00/67 0} Qd2 {0.00/61 3 (f5)} 81. Qf1 {0.00/68 1} Qd6 {0.00/59 1 (f5)} 82. Kg1 {0.00/67 1} Kf6 {0.00/58 1 (d8)} 83. Qa1+ {0.00/75 1} Kf5 {0.00/60 2} 84. Qa5+ {0.00/65 1} Qd5 {0.00/55 2 (g6)} 85. Qe1 {0.00/61 1} Kf6 {0.00/58 0 (d8)} 86. Qc3+ {0.00/65 1} Kf5 {0.00/66 2} 87. Qc7 {0.00/66 0} Kg6 {0.00/60 2 (f6)} 88. Qe7 {0.00/74 1} Qd1+ {0.00/60 0 (e5)} 89. Kh2 {0.00/69 1} Qd5 {0.00/67 1} 90. Qe8+ {0.00/62 0} Kh6 {0.00/59 1 (g7)} 91. Qh8+ {0.00/67 6} Kg6 {0.00/76 1} 92. Qg8+ {0.00/64 0} Kh6 {0.00/64 2} 93. Qh8+ {0.00/65 0} Kg6 {0.00/53 1} 94. Qg8+ {0.00/76 2} Kf6 {0.00/67 2} 95. Qf8+ {0.00/63 0} Kg6 {0.00/57 1} 96. Qe8+ {0.00/68 4} Kg7 {0.00/57 2} 97. Qe7+ {0.00/64 0} Kg6 {0.00/53 6} 98. g4 {0.00/74 0} hxg3+ {0.00/63 1} 99. Kxg3 {0.00/73 0} Qe5+ {0.00/65 0 (f5)} 100. Kg2 {0.00/78 1} Qf5 {0.00/57 0} 101. Qe8+ {0.00/77 0} Kg7 {0.00/57 0} 102. Qe7+ {0.00/64 0} Kg6 {0.00/68 1 (g8)} 103. Qe8+ {0.00/76 1} Kg7 {0.00/66 1 (f7)} 104. Qd7+ {0.00/71 1} Kh6 {0.00/56 0} 105. Qd1 {0.00/64 0} Kg6 {0.00/92 6} 106. Qd4 {0.00/76 0} Qf3+ {0.00/79 1} 107. Kg1 {0.00/79 0} Qxh3 {0.00/71 0} 108. Qxe4+ {0.00/84 1} Qf5 {0.00/75 0 (h6)} 109. Qxf5+ {0.00/104 1} exf5 {0.00/50 1 (xf5)} 110. Kg2 {0} Kf6 {0.00/54 0} 111. Kf3 {0} Ke5 {0.00/60 1} 112. Kg3 {0} Ke4 {0.00/65 1} 113. f4 {-1/0 0} g4 {-#17/54 1} 114. Kf2 {-1/0 0} Kd3 {-#16/50 0} 115. Kg3 {-2/1 0} Kxe3 {-#14/55 1} 116. Kh4 {-3/1 0} Kxf4 {-#9/60 1} 117. Kh5 {-1/1 0} g3 {-#8/88 0} 118. Kh4 {-1/0 0} g2 {-#4/245 0} 119. Kh3 {-1/0 0} g1=Q {-#2/245 0} 120. Kh4 {-1/1 0} Qh1# {-#1/245 0 (Lag: Av=0.26s, max=1.4s)} 0-1
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Re: Fritz 18 BUG still exists in update version 17!

Post by Eduard Nemeth » Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:33 pm

This has been going on for a few months. I forwarded the BUG to ChessBase, then update 16 came out. After now again long time update 17 comes out, but still totally BUGGY. How often should I write to ChessBase? I have no more desire!

I have seen many losses with this BUG on the server PlayChess, but I can only kibitz or play myself. Many losing games I could not even see.

Here are 4 positions, the first 3 are from version 14 or 16 I don't know exactly. The last position is the one from today, but today alone there were more such defeats:

8/5N2/8/3K2p1/5kP1/3p4/8/8 w - - 0 1
8/2p5/8/1K1k4/8/P6P/8/8 b - - 0 1
8/8/7k/2K5/1p4n1/1P6/P7/8 b - - 0 1
8/8/8/5pp1/4k3/4P1K1/5P2/8 w - - 0 113

I will continue to collect and have the games chipped for myself, but I will not play the eternal beta tester for ChessBase - I am very dissatisfied.
Peace be with you!

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