opening book vs experience file

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by cubail » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:03 am

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:40 am

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit

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   # PLAYER                       :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_190623 (Eman 8.40)    :      35     69    27.5      50  55.0    9   37    4  74.0       0     1
   2 hcanfree-upd (Eman 8.40)     :       0   ----    22.5      50  45.0    4   37    9  74.0      35     1

White advantage = 7.08 +/- 35.50
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by ALPHAZEROOOOO » Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:17 pm

deeds wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:40 am
hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit

Code: Select all

   # PLAYER                       :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_190623 (Eman 8.40)    :      35     69    27.5      50  55.0    9   37    4  74.0       0     1
   2 hcanfree-upd (Eman 8.40)     :       0   ----    22.5      50  45.0    4   37    9  74.0      35     1

White advantage = 7.08 +/- 35.50
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
Do you consider yourself very smart?
If you think you're smart or smart, you really aren't.
In the HCanFreeUpd book, there is no g4 for move 1 at all.. but the losing moves were with move 1. g4 and 1.f3
same for blacks 1. d4 ..e5??
These moves and these openings do not belong to the HCanFree book. These moves are not in the book..

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by cubail » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:35 pm

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:43 pm

ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:17 pm
Do you consider yourself very smart?
If you think you're smart or smart, you really aren't.
In the HCanFreeUpd book, there is no g4 for move 1 at all.. but the losing moves were with move 1. g4 and 1.f3
same for blacks 1. d4 ..e5??
These moves and these openings do not belong to the HCanFree book. These moves are not in the book..
Hi Hamdullah, delighted !

I will leave to those who have already worked with me or who use my tools to tell you about my level of stupidity or my IQ.

As I did for the other books, I tested your book in the starting position as well as with several opening lists.

Maybe you haven't read this :
How to read the moves of the games of the PGN files ?

All the openings were played by the 2 configurations with the 2 colors on the same hardware (40 threads), same hash (4 GB), same TC (1m+1s), etc.
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:44 pm

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As I don't do tournaments on chess servers and I have no knowledge of opening theory, I rely on the opening lists used by daily testers to train the engines.

With the openingRate tool, people know in advance which opening lists are very well covered by which books or not :
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As i already said previously, those are just little warm-ups => "Depth4_190623 (Eman 8.40)" is set by default (=training mode) => only 70%-75% of its moves are in conformity with its experience data, the games are not of world-class quality.

Have a good day !

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by ALPHAZEROOOOO » Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:04 pm

deeds wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:43 pm
ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:17 pm
Do you consider yourself very smart?
If you think you're smart or smart, you really aren't.
In the HCanFreeUpd book, there is no g4 for move 1 at all.. but the losing moves were with move 1. g4 and 1.f3
same for blacks 1. d4 ..e5??
These moves and these openings do not belong to the HCanFree book. These moves are not in the book..
Hi Hamdullah, delighted !

I will leave to those who have already worked with me or who use my tools to tell you about my level of stupidity or my IQ.

As I did for the other books, I tested your book in the starting position as well as with several opening lists.

Maybe you haven't read this :
How to read the moves of the games of the PGN files ?

All the openings were played by the 2 configurations with the 2 colors on the same hardware (40 threads), same hash (4 GB), same TC (1m+1s), etc.
...
Add silly openings to my book and test with those openings and keep the silly results to yourself

I don't care what job you do, you're a nobody who thinks he's smart and something (:

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:07 pm

ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:04 pm
Add silly openings to my book and test with those openings
Don't need to modify the books :

cutechess-gui
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Depth4_190623 (Eman 8.40)
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hcanfree-upd (Eman 8.40)
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ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:04 pm
keep the silly results to yourself
The subject here is "opening book vs experience file" => My results are where they should be.

ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:04 pm
I don't care what job you do, you're a nobody who thinks he's smart and something (:
Good luck !

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by ALPHAZEROOOOO » Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:10 pm

deeds wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:07 pm
ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:04 pm
Add silly openings to my book and test with those openings
Don't need to modify the books :

cutechess-gui
Image

Depth4_190623 (Eman 8.40)
Image

hcanfree-upd (Eman 8.40)
Image

ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:04 pm
keep the silly results to yourself
The subject here is "opening book vs experience file" => My results are where they should be.

ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:04 pm
I don't care what job you do, you're a nobody who thinks he's smart and something (:
Good luck !
Stop bullshit and keep your bullshit results and tests to yourself...
nonsense moves in losing games do not belong in my book..

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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:09 pm

ALPHAZEROOOOO wrote:
Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:10 pm
Stop bullshit and keep your bullshit results and tests to yourself...
nonsense moves in losing games do not belong in my book..
People have a right to know, results are published, computer chess are not just about the starting position, the future is the learning engines.

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