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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:39 am

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit

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   # PLAYER                           :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_031222.exp (Eman 8.30)    :      28     69    27.0      50  54.0    9   36    5  72.0       0     1
   2 Hubble 3.1.bin (Eman 8.30)       :       0   ----    23.0      50  46.0    5   36    9  72.0      28     1

White advantage = 0.00 +/- 35.52
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:32 am

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings

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   # PLAYER                           :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_031222.exp (Eman 8.30)    :     103     53    63.5     100  63.5   29   69    2  69.0       0     1
   2 Hubble 3.1.bin (Eman 8.30)       :       0   ----    36.5     100  36.5    2   69   29  69.0     103     1

White advantage = 89.28 +/- 26.91
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:20 am

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess-gui 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : startpos

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   # PLAYER                           :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L   D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_031222.exp (Eman 8.30)    :       0     49    50.0     100  50.0    0  100    0  100.0       0     1
   2 Mantis-DH1.bin (Eman 8.30)       :       0   ----    50.0     100  50.0    0  100    0  100.0       0     1

White advantage = 0.00 +/- 25.05
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:58 am

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : GHPPN's 15 most popular openings

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   # PLAYER                           :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L   D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_031222.exp (Eman 8.30)    :       0     92    15.0      30  50.0    0   30    0  100.0       0     1
   2 Mantis-DH1.bin (Eman 8.30)       :       0   ----    15.0      30  50.0    0   30    0  100.0       0     1

White advantage = 0.00 +/- 46.89
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:47 am

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : 20 first legal moves

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   # PLAYER                           :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_031222.exp (Eman 8.30)    :       0     81    20.0      40  50.0    1   38    1  95.0       0     1
   2 Mantis-DH1.bin (Eman 8.30)       :       0   ----    20.0      40  50.0    1   38    1  95.0       0     1

White advantage = -17.54 +/- 41.09
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:25 pm

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : Albert Silver's 25 gambit suit

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   # PLAYER                           :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_031222.exp (Eman 8.30)    :      42     70    28.0      50  56.0   10   36    4  72.0       0     1
   2 Mantis-DH1.bin (Eman 8.30)       :       0   ----    22.0      50  44.0    4   36   10  72.0      42     1

White advantage = 0.00 +/- 35.28
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link : games
pass : 59Ef9tOGT1RCBGYgpMTuzw
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:46 am

hardware : dual xeon e5-2660v3
software : cutechess 1.2.0
settings : TC 60s+1s, 40 threads, hash 4096 MB, partial syzygy 7men

Opening list : Jeroen Noomen's 50 tcec season 22 superfinal openings

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   # PLAYER                           :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Depth4_031222.exp (Eman 8.30)    :     105     54    63.5     100  63.5   29   69    2  69.0       0     1
   2 Mantis-DH1.bin (Eman 8.30)       :       0   ----    36.5     100  36.5    2   69   29  69.0     105     1

White advantage = 97.49 +/- 27.18
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
link : games
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:30 am

By grouping the engines with experience files VS the engines with opening book, we obtain this overall result :

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   # PLAYER                         :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 experience_file (Eman 8.xx)    :      38     16   531.5     960  55.4  125  813   22  84.7       0     1
   2 opening_books (Eman 8.xx)      :       0   ----   428.5     960  44.6   22  813  125  84.7      38     1

White advantage = 23.30 +/- 8.00
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00
Some stats :

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experience_file (eman 8.xx) : avg. D32, 1 979 ms/move, 960 games, 50 394 moves
opening_books (eman 8.xx)   : avg. D34, 2 414 ms/move, 960 games, 40 917 moves

Averages :
207 sec/game (3 min/game)
113 plies/game (95 played plies/game)
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:32 am

How to read the moves of the games of the PGN files ?

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[Event "EXP VS BOOK"]
[Site "dual xeon e5-2660v3"]
[Date "2022.12.13"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mantis-DH1 (Eman 8.30)"]
[Black "Depth4_031222 (Eman 8.30)"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B40"]
[GameDuration "00:01:54"]
[Opening "Sicilian"]
[PlyCount "44"]
[TimeControl "60+1"]
[Variation "Anderssen Variation"]

1. e4 {book} c5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} e6 {book} 3. d4 {book} cxd4 {book}
4. Nxd4 {book} Nf6 {book} 5. Nc3 {book} d6 {book} 6. Be3 {book} Be7 {book}
7. g4 {book} h6 {book} 8. Qe2 Nc6 {+1.91/30 7.7s} 9. O-O-O Nxd4 {+1.89/23 0.58s}
10. Bxd4 {+2.04/33 9.6s} Bd7 {+1.87/28 1.5s} 11. f3 {+2.08/32 7.1s} Rc8 {+1.95/30 9.7s}
12. Qd2 {+2.10/32 6.2s} e5 {+1.94/27 3.9s} 13. Be3 {+2.00/32 6.3s} Qa5 {+1.87/29 5.1s}
14. a3 {+1.94/26 1.6s} a6 {+1.91/33 7.1s} 15. h4 {+2.05/29 7.4s} Be6 {+1.78/26 1.8s}
16. Be2 {+2.09/24 1.2s} b5 {+2.11/28 8.8s} 17. Kb1 g6 {+2.22/23 0.86s}
18. Rhe1 Rc6 {+1.90/26 4.7s} 19. Qd3 {+2.16/29 13s} Bc4 {+1.93/22 0.74s}
20. Qd2 {+2.19/27 1.1s} Be6 {+2.12/26 1.2s}
21. Rh1 {+2.19/29 2.2s} Rc8 {+1.90/25 1.2s}
22. Rhe1 Rc6 {0.00/45 1.1s, Draw by 3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2
CUTECHESS-GUI adds the {book} mention after each move of the current opening.
For example : 1. e4 {book}...

When the engine plays a book's move, there is no evaluation.
For example : 8. Qe2 ...

When the engine is out-of-book, CUTECHESS-GUI adds the engine's evaluation.
For example : 10. Bxd4 {+2.04/33 9.6s} ...

CUTECHESS-GUI always adds the evaluation of the engine with experience data.
For example : ... Nc6 {+1.91/30 7.7s} ...
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Re: opening book vs experience file

Post by deeds » Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:33 am

Why did you choose these 3 opening books (or these 3 book's authors) ?

As i knew nothing about the opening books nor their performance nor their rating, at the time i was inspired by the OCF rating list.
Then, i searched for the last available releases of the books from this rating list.
Starting from the best, at the time, i had found these ones.
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