DOTS3
DOTS3
Dynamic Openings Test Suite (DOTS) is a set of selected positions for running engine matches. The purpose of this set is not to measure Elo differences but to provide dynamic and interesting games.
DOTS3 has 100 positions: 50 from DOTS2 + 50 new.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0ogyy3n9 ... 1.zip/file
DOTS3 has 100 positions: 50 from DOTS2 + 50 new.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0ogyy3n9 ... 1.zip/file
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Re: DOTS3
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Exhibition, for example the +-'s are higher than the Elo's.
DOTS3 random reversed, 48 game RR.
G/6'+1" ; 2Gh Sy.6 ; 2700X 2060
Elo + - Games Score Data Draws
1 Blue Marlin 14.3-avx2 : 44 94 92 19.0/32 59.4% +12 -6 =14 43.8%
2 Swordfish 14.3-avx2 : 0 87 87 16.0/32 50.0% +8 -8 =16 50.0%
3 Lc0-0.28.0_610069 : -44 108 110 13.0/32 40.6% +9 -15 =8 25.0%
Already worse Lc0 lost very quickly with its 25...g5??. Blue Marlin drew the reversed.
Blue Marlin won the ending, in the reversed it got counterplay and drew.
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- BlM,Lc,Sw-48-6,1.pgn
- Games, with depth/evals. per move.
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Re: DOTS3
Thank you again for your DOTS3 !!
Do you mind if I mention it on Discord ?
Do you mind if I mention it on Discord ?
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[Event "G/75''+0.8'' 2Gh Sy.6 | DOTS3 each"]
[Site "R7 2700X 16threads | RTX 2060"]
[Date "2021.09.23"]
[Round "32"]
[White "Stockfish_21092119"]
[Black "Lc0-0.28.0_610069"]
[Result "1-0"]
[FEN "rnbqkb1r/pp3ppp/4pn2/1BpP4/3P4/8/PPPN1PPP/R1BQK1NR b KQkq - 0 1"]
[GameDuration "00:01:26"]
[GameEndTime "2021-09-23T01:20:51.537"]
[GameStartTime "2021-09-23T01:19:25.467"]
[PlyCount "41"]
[SetUp "1"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[TimeControl "75+0.8"]
1... Bd7 {-0.58/15 1.3s} 2. Bxd7+ {+1.70/26 2.8s} Qxd7 {-0.60/15 1.2s}
3. dxe6 {+1.75/27 1.3s} Qxe6+ {-0.61/14 1.1s} 4. Ne2 {+1.75/27 1.4s}
Bd6 {-0.63/14 2.4s} 5. Nf3 {+1.68/28 4.0s} O-O {-0.66/11 4.7s}
6. O-O {+1.70/28 1.2s} Nc6 {-0.68/11 0.80s} 7. Re1 {+1.66/28 1.9s}
Rfe8 {-0.74/12 4.8s} 8. Bg5 {+1.71/28 1.8s} Qf5 {-0.72/12 0.95s}
9. c3 {+1.73/30 2.1s} cxd4 {-0.82/13 2.7s} 10. Bxf6 {+1.74/30 1.6s}
Qxf6 {-0.84/13 0.80s} 11. Nexd4 {+1.74/29 2.0s} Rxe1+ {-0.84/12 1.4s}
12. Qxe1 {+1.72/28 1.6s} Nxd4 {-0.84/11 1.3s} 13. Nxd4 {+1.77/28 2.6s}
Rd8 {-0.84/10 6.2s} 14. Rd1 {+1.79/28 2.3s} Bf8 {-0.83/10 1.5s}
15. g3 {+1.73/28 6.3s} Qa6 {-0.81/10 1.2s} 16. a3 {+1.81/26 1.1s}
Qb6 {-0.75/10 2.0s} 17. Rd2 {+1.80/27 2.2s} g6 {-0.73/9 1.2s}
18. Qe3 {+1.82/28 2.0s} Bg7 {-0.65/9 2.9s} 19. Nf5 {+5.49/30 1.7s}
Rxd2 {-5.66/17 3.0s} 20. Qe8+ {+7.38/23 1.6s} Bf8 {-7.22/1 0s}
21. Nh6+ {+7.46/23 1.6s} Kg7 {-7.80/1 0s, White wins by adjudication} 1-0
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Re: DOTS3
I was thinking of posting a Sf vs Lc0 there.
But, if I do I can use a different book.
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( I like the way DOTS3 gets to the critical, typically:
same opening:
stronger 1-0 weaker
weaker 1/2-1/2 stronger
in a low number of moves often. )
But, if I do I can use a different book.
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( I like the way DOTS3 gets to the critical, typically:
same opening:
stronger 1-0 weaker
weaker 1/2-1/2 stronger
in a low number of moves often. )
Re: DOTS3
No problem for me, just wanted to know. Of course you can use it.
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As you are the main user of this book, I need your advice. Since releasing DOTS3 I am working on DOTS4. What is better, to release it with 150 positions or to wait until the number of positions is 200? At the moment DOTS4beta has 121 positions (99 from DOTS3, 1 deleted because of too many quick draws, 22 new).
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As you are the main user of this book, I need your advice. Since releasing DOTS3 I am working on DOTS4. What is better, to release it with 150 positions or to wait until the number of positions is 200? At the moment DOTS4beta has 121 positions (99 from DOTS3, 1 deleted because of too many quick draws, 22 new).
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Re: DOTS3
Wow! DOTS4 sounds interesting already!
For me: I use the DOTS with the latest engines, so:
(DOTS4 ?) 150 with the latest engines/nets at that time,
(DOTS5 ?) 200 with the newer latest engines/nets (I would not have any 'duplication', my engines/nets for the 200 would be newer than the ones I used with the 150)
so, for me, I would prefer the 150.
Thank you for asking!
For me: I use the DOTS with the latest engines, so:
(DOTS4 ?) 150 with the latest engines/nets at that time,
(DOTS5 ?) 200 with the newer latest engines/nets (I would not have any 'duplication', my engines/nets for the 200 would be newer than the ones I used with the 150)
so, for me, I would prefer the 150.
Thank you for asking!
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Re: DOTS3
Thanks! I have to catch up on a few things then I will try your DOTS and 'fish' again.
I am not going to do what I was thinking of for Discord.
It was too similar to the below, there is already a lot of data about it
I am not going to do what I was thinking of for Discord.
It was too similar to the below, there is already a lot of data about it
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Lc0 T60 http://zz4032.bplaced.net/lc0/charts.html
http://training.lczero.org/networks/1
| vs Stockfish NCM
| https://nextchessmove.com/dev-builds
608000 2021-03-12 3053 +00 | Sf 20210310-1132 373.13 +00.00
608500 2021-04-10 3059 +06 | Sf 20210406-1623 378.63 +05.50
609000 2021-05-06 3067 +14 | Sf 20210507-0745 381.31 +08.18
609500 2021-06-21 3069 +16 | Sf 20210621-2116 421.00 +47.87
610000 2021-08-27 3081 +28 | Sf 20210827-1941 440.35 +67.22
Re: DOTS3
I sometimes look for NCM Stockfish tests. You can find similar tests here too: https://www.sp-cc.de/stockfish-regression.htm
(My new fishes 14.4 are going to be released tomorrow).
(My new fishes 14.4 are going to be released tomorrow).