Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by chri$ » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:58 pm

i love using LIlBlitzer GUI for engine vs engine testing.. and Im using your current settings to test my engins I use with different settinfs to see what plays best....I was hoping you could kindly provide a link to download the current testsuite EPD book u are using (EPD Test Suites\5000 8 move.epd)for this test as I would love to use it too and havent had any luck finding it anywhere.. thanks buddy..

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by echai » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:40 pm


chri$
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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by chri$ » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:29 am

sorry i check both links u gave.. neither provided a link of the book u are using for your tests.. please answer my site PM i sent u or send me a site PM with direct downlod link please.. thanks..

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by KilgoreTrout » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:29 am

Hi Chri$, I'm not using a book or any predetermined starting positions for my tournament. The conditions for my tournament are specified in post #1 in the thread:

http://talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... w=&start=0

40 moves in 5 minutes, repeating
Round Robin
Hash=512
Ponder off
No Book
All Tablebases on SSD
Syzgy bases are 6-piece, Gaviota 5-piece.
Threads=2, no Hyperthreading.
All are 64 bit SSE4.2 engines


Despite the lack of a book, there are a decent variety of openings being played, as can be seen in the PGN link. Even more variety than what is listed in the PGN can be seen if the PGN is loaded into SCID for ECO-classification using the SCID ECO "letter" extensions.

UPDATE: SF-DD-Gaviota still in #2

1440 games

PGN link:

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D0094094_75971673_746527

12/24/2013 1:17:40 AM :

Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws

1 Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy : 39 26 26 288 56.2 % -4 58.3 %
2 Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota : 17 26 26 288 52.8 % -2 59.0 %
3 Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921 : 15 25 25 288 52.4 % -2 61.1 %
4 Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota : 9 24 24 288 51.4 % -1 63.9 %
5 Komodo6-64bit : 7 26 26 288 51.0 % -1 58.3 %
6 Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 4 26 26 288 50.7 % -0 59.0 %
7 Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 1 27 27 288 50.2 % -0 53.8 %
8 Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 0 26 26 288 50.0 % 0 59.0 %
9 Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota : -33 25 25 288 44.8 % 4 60.4 %
10 Houdini_3_Pro-None : -60 27 27 288 40.5 % 7 55.2 %


Individual statistics:

1 Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 39 288 (+ 78,=168,- 42), 56.2 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 11,= 19,- 2), 64.1 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 6,= 25,- 1), 57.8 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 5,= 21,- 6), 48.4 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 11,= 13,- 8), 54.7 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 8,= 15,- 9), 48.4 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 6,= 23,- 3), 54.7 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 13,= 16,- 3), 65.6 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 9,= 18,- 5), 56.2 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 9,= 18,- 5), 56.2 %

2 Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 17 288 (+ 67,=170,- 51), 52.8 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 11,= 17,- 4), 60.9 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 5,= 18,- 9), 43.8 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 11,= 16,- 5), 59.4 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 7,= 24,- 1), 59.4 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 4,= 24,- 4), 50.0 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 3,= 24,- 5), 46.9 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 9,= 17,- 6), 54.7 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 10,= 14,- 8), 53.1 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 7,= 16,- 9), 46.9 %

3 Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 15 288 (+ 63,=176,- 49), 52.4 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 8,= 20,- 4), 56.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 9,= 15,- 8), 51.6 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 9,= 18,- 5), 56.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 11,= 12,- 9), 53.1 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 6,= 25,- 1), 57.8 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 5,= 21,- 6), 48.4 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 5,= 18,- 9), 43.8 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 5,= 24,- 3), 53.1 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 5,= 23,- 4), 51.6 %

4 Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 9 288 (+ 56,=184,- 48), 51.4 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 4,= 27,- 1), 54.7 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 3,= 23,- 6), 45.3 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 8,= 24,- 0), 62.5 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 7,= 21,- 4), 54.7 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 6,= 18,- 8), 46.9 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 6,= 21,- 5), 51.6 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 10,= 17,- 5), 57.8 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 6,= 17,- 9), 45.3 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 6,= 16,- 10), 43.8 %

5 Komodo6-64bit : 7 288 (+ 63,=168,- 57), 51.0 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 8,= 20,- 4), 56.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 5,= 18,- 9), 43.8 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 13,= 16,- 3), 65.6 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 4,= 19,- 9), 42.2 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 9,= 17,- 6), 54.7 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 4,= 23,- 5), 48.4 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 10,= 16,- 6), 56.2 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 1,= 23,- 8), 39.1 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 9,= 16,- 7), 53.1 %

6 Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None: 4 288 (+ 61,=170,- 57), 50.7 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 12,= 16,- 4), 62.5 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 6,= 21,- 5), 51.6 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 9,= 18,- 5), 56.2 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 5,= 21,- 6), 48.4 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 9,= 12,- 11), 46.9 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 4,= 21,- 7), 45.3 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 6,= 18,- 8), 46.9 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 1,= 24,- 7), 40.6 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 9,= 19,- 4), 57.8 %

7 Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 1 288 (+ 67,=155,- 66), 50.2 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 7,= 21,- 4), 54.7 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 3,= 16,- 13), 34.4 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 12,= 11,- 9), 54.7 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 8,= 18,- 6), 53.1 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 7,= 17,- 8), 48.4 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 9,= 18,- 5), 56.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 5,= 17,- 10), 42.2 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 8,= 14,- 10), 46.9 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 8,= 23,- 1), 60.9 %

8 Stockfish_DD_64_modern: 0 288 (+ 59,=170,- 59), 50.0 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 8,= 19,- 5), 54.7 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 8,= 13,- 11), 45.3 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 10,= 16,- 6), 56.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 6,= 21,- 5), 51.6 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 1,= 25,- 6), 42.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 8,= 18,- 6), 53.1 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 8,= 17,- 7), 51.6 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 4,= 24,- 4), 50.0 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 6,= 17,- 9), 45.3 %

9 Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: -33 288 (+ 42,=174,- 72), 44.8 %

Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 2,= 19,- 11), 35.9 %
Houdini_3_Pro-None : 32 (+ 14,= 15,- 3), 67.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 4,= 16,- 12), 37.5 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 5,= 19,- 8), 45.3 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 4,= 20,- 8), 43.8 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 1,= 27,- 4), 45.3 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 4,= 21,- 7), 45.3 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 4,= 17,- 11), 39.1 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 4,= 20,- 8), 43.8 %

10 Houdini_3_Pro-None : -60 288 (+ 37,=159,- 92), 40.5 %

Houdini_3_Pro_x64-Gaviota: 32 (+ 3,= 15,- 14), 32.8 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Syzygy: 32 (+ 1,= 25,- 6), 42.2 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-None : 32 (+ 5,= 18,- 9), 43.8 %
Stockfish_DD_64_modern : 32 (+ 6,= 16,- 10), 43.8 %
Stockfish_DD_Syzygy_13112921: 32 (+ 5,= 18,- 9), 43.8 %
Houdini_4_Pro_x64B-Gaviota: 32 (+ 0,= 24,- 8), 37.5 %
Komodo-TCEC-64bit : 32 (+ 9,= 11,- 12), 45.3 %
Stockfish-DD-64-PA_Gaviota: 32 (+ 5,= 16,- 11), 40.6 %
Komodo6-64bit : 32 (+ 3,= 16,- 13), 34.4 %

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by echai » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:07 pm

Cris$:

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In the site that tells you immortal forum ask the book to Paulied. It will provide

The site tells Immortal that I ask to book a Paulied forum. The will provide it

On the site that tells of Immortal Forum ask the book at Paulied. It will provide

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by Peter » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:23 pm

Hi Jeremy!
Ever thought of coding in Gtbs and Pers.hash to Sting- Stockfish by Marek Kwiatkowski? Think this branch interesting for several positions and could imagine it to be a specail one for corr. chess using PA_GTB's lerning file.
Have a happy new year soon,
regards
Peter.

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by Jeremy Bernstein » Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:32 pm

Peter wrote:Hi Jeremy!
Ever thought of coding in Gtbs and Pers.hash to Sting- Stockfish by Marek Kwiatkowski? Think this branch interesting for several positions and could imagine it to be a specail one for corr. chess using PA_GTB's lerning file.
Have a happy new year soon,
Nope! :-)

Life is really too short for that. Marek (or anyone else) is welcome to fork my repository and do it himself, though.

Happy new year,
jb

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by petevine » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:13 am

Is it possible with the currently available UCI options to get the following behaviour:
Stockfish uses the PH to read what has been learnt but doesn't write anything back. A sort of read-only/book approach.
Thx

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by Jeremy Bernstein » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:02 pm

You could set the PH depth to an improbably high number. Then it won't ever write, but will read.

jb

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Re: Stockfish 4 PA_GTB

Post by petevine » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:56 pm

Yeah, but is it equivalent to PH off in a completely new position NPS-wise?

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