Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by hyatt » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:33 am

thorstenczub wrote:strelka 5 is not only strong, it plays amazing games with amazing evaluations.

a mixture out of THE KING (johan de koning) and CSTAL (c.whittington) and Nimzo (chrilly donninger) in aggressive mode,
with evaluations few times bigger then the opponent program, so similar like mchess or CSTAL.

when the normal rybka-clones all have an evaluation that is LOWER than normal , strelka comes with speculative/full-moon-scores.

a very interesting program.


the way it organizes SPACE and TIME on the board reminds me very much on the king.

the opponent is often paralyzed. often the opponents are not coming above the 4th or even 3rd rank while strelka attacks like hell.

wow !!

congratulations. this is really cool and unsound chess.


there is something unique in strelka 5.

you must watch the games against it. amazing.

maybe a new approach ?!

Let's don't go there again (new approach - new paradigm)...

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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by Uly » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:00 am

thorstenczub wrote:a mixture out of THE KING (johan de koning) and CSTAL (c.whittington) and Nimzo (chrilly donninger) in aggressive mode,
with evaluations few times bigger then the opponent program, so similar like mchess or CSTAL.
From Google's translation from Russian to English from the Strelka 5 site:

"I used a lot of things that could spy
in other programs. This is primarily Rybka 3, Ippolit, Houdini, and Critter
Stockfish. In most algorithms used Houdini version 1.5a,
for that I bring my gratitude to Robert Houdart and apologies."

So it's a mixture of ideas and/or code from those engines, nothing original to see here, even if the output is something new.

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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by Matthias Gemuh » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:50 am

Uly wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:a mixture out of THE KING (johan de koning) and CSTAL (c.whittington) and Nimzo (chrilly donninger) in aggressive mode,
with evaluations few times bigger then the opponent program, so similar like mchess or CSTAL.
From Google's translation from Russian to English from the Strelka 5 site:

"I used a lot of things that could spy
in other programs. This is primarily Rybka 3, Ippolit, Houdini, and Critter
Stockfish. In most algorithms used Houdini version 1.5a,
for that I bring my gratitude to Robert Houdart and apologies."

So it's a mixture of ideas and/or code from those engines, nothing original to see here, even if the output is something new.
The quote continues with ...
"But if Strelka 5 would contain only strangers algorithms, I would not publish it. Publishing the engine only makes sense if
if there is something new, something others do not have. Innovations in Strelka 5 are quite numerous. The most important innovations are in the evaluation function."
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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by ThinkingALot » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:16 am

Windows & Linux, w32 & x64 compiles by Jim Ablett: http://strelkachess.narod.ru/Strelka5.html, the link at the bottom.

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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by thorstenczub » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:30 am

Matthias Gemuh wrote: "But if Strelka 5 would contain only strangers algorithms, I would not publish it. Publishing the engine only makes sense if
if there is something new, something others do not have. Innovations in Strelka 5 are quite numerous. The most important innovations are in the evaluation function."

indeed. this is very unique IMO.

but - we don't have to argue about this here in words. load the engine,
let it play against whatever engine you prefer, and watch the games and scores yourself and you will maybe see what i see.

i don't want to disturb you in your long cloning battle discussions we all had the pleasure to read the last years.

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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by veritas » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:01 am

JA windows & linux 32 &64 bit compiles

http://depositfiles.com/files/i01fmo0az

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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by kingliveson » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:46 pm

veritas wrote:JA windows & linux 32 &64 bit compiles

http://depositfiles.com/files/i01fmo0az
Double thumbs up for x64 and native Linux builds.
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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by Odeus37 » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:15 pm

ThinkingALot wrote:Windows & Linux, w32 & x64 compiles by Jim Ablett: http://strelkachess.narod.ru/Strelka5.html, the link at the bottom.
I can't find those on Jim Ablett's website : http://jim-ablett.co.de/

I wanted to give it a try, but I am kinda paranoid, and usualy prefer to get JA's compiles from JA's website... :oops:

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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by kingliveson » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:41 pm

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Microsoft, Blitz:1'  0
                      
1   Strelka 5 x64     +13/-10/=27 53.00%   26.5/50
2   Houdini 1.5a x64  +10/-13/=27 47.00%   23.5/50
Now, Jury should do the right thing and send me the source code. :)
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Re: Strelka 5 by Jury Osipov is out!

Post by thorstenczub » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:07 pm

[Event "40/120"]
[Site "atom netbook"]
[Date "2011.10.18"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Hiarcs 12 MP [t1]"]
[Black "Strelka 5"]
[ECO "D01"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. Nc3 Nf6 2. d4 d5 3. Bg5 Nbd7 4. Nf3 h6 5. Bf4 a6 6. e3
b5 7. Bd3 c5 8. dxc5 Nxc5 9. Be2 b4 10. Nb1 g5 11. Be5 Ncd7
12. c3 Nxe5 13. Nxe5 Bg7 14. Nc6 Qb6 15. Nxb4 O-O 16. Na3
a5 17. Nd3 Ne4 18. O-O Rb8 19. Nc2 Rd8 20. Nd4 e5 21. Nf3
Re8 22. Rb1 Bf5 23. Nd2 Nd6 24. Nb3 Nc4 25. Qc2 Rec8
26. Qd1 a4 27. Na1 d4 28. b3 Na3 29. Rc1 dxe3 30. Nb4 Be6
31. bxa4 exf2+ 32. Rxf2 e4 33. Nb3 Nc4 34. Bxc4 e3 35. Re2
Bxc4 36. a5 Qa7 37. Kh1 0-1

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