I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by thorstenczub » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:22 pm

JcMaTe wrote:People can think That I'm crazy but I still believe that Houdini/houdart have direct connection with rybka/Vas
isn't that a little too much conspiracy theory ? your theory is that robert houdart is selling rybka as houdini ??

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by Jeremy Bernstein » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:39 pm

thorstenczub wrote:
JcMaTe wrote:People can think That I'm crazy but I still believe that Houdini/houdart have direct connection with rybka/Vas
isn't that a little too much conspiracy theory ? your theory is that robert houdart is selling rybka as houdini ??
It's an attractive conspiracy theory, but I don't think there's anything there.

More likely is that Robert Houdart == Roberto Pescatore. But I don't think that's particularly likely, either, or he wouldn't have needed to start with Norm's source code.

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by Uly » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:17 am

What about Robert Houdart == Robert Hyatt? I mean, it's very suspicious that their first name and initials match :roll:

I just hate conspiracy theories that appear with no basis whatsoever.

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by Jeremy Bernstein » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:24 am

Uly wrote:What about Robert Houdart == Robert Hyatt? I mean, it's very suspicious that their first name and initials match :roll:

I just hate conspiracy theories that appear with no basis whatsoever.
I dunno about that one -- that's pretty off-base. But has anyone ever seen Bob Hyatt and Vas in the same room at the same time? I'm just saying.

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by JcMaTe » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:27 am

thorstenczub wrote:
JcMaTe wrote:People can think That I'm crazy but I still believe that Houdini/houdart have direct connection with rybka/Vas
isn't that a little too much conspiracy theory ? your theory is that robert houdart is selling rybka as houdini ??
what i think that the real rybka's author is Robert Houdart and he has the rybka's source code like i say I'm crazy .. he is acting like vas when vas start with rybka by the way Rybka start with R like Robert :)

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by thorstenczub » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:51 pm

JcMaTe wrote:
thorstenczub wrote:
JcMaTe wrote:People can think That I'm crazy but I still believe that Houdini/houdart have direct connection with rybka/Vas
isn't that a little too much conspiracy theory ? your theory is that robert houdart is selling rybka as houdini ??
what i think that the real rybka's author is Robert Houdart and he has the rybka's source code like i say I'm crazy .. he is acting like vas when vas start with rybka by the way Rybka start with R like Robert :)

i see. interesting theory. i never thought rajlich did
rybka. to me rajlich was more a salesman like
ossi weiner who sold the work of somebody
else.

but if houdart invented rybka, why
is robbolito in houdini, did houdart these
programs too ?

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by hyatt » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:01 pm

I think this has ventured "way out there". I'm certainly not Houdart. Who/what Houdart is is completely unknown. He "claims" to have been involved in computer chess for many years. Which is a crock to those of us that have been involved, of course. I believe Vas copied fruit/crafty and developed Rybka and improved it significantly. Who is responsible for ippolit and friends is unknown, and likely will remain so. Houdini is clearly a derivative of robolito. Anything else is really fringe speculation...

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by Uly » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:07 pm

hyatt wrote:I'm certainly not Houdart.
I was just making fun of such conspiracy theories, I guess I should have went with something more obvious like "Look! Critter must be a clone of Crafty, since both engines start with 'C'!" :|

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by Hood » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:36 pm

Robert Houdart == Vas Railich :-)
Smolensk 2010. Murder or accident... Cui bono ?

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Re: I don't know whether to laugh or cry...

Post by Uly » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:42 pm

Or maybe, Hood = Houdart, since all it takes is letter matching, isn't it? :roll:

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