Jesus is Caesar

[Hood]

You would like to believe what you wrote but your prove is very weak.

Jews knows more because Jesus Christus was born as a Jew from the king David family line.

[thorstenczub]

the repetition of hear-said information about the invented jesus is not helping you.

[skelter79]

He says "ask Jews", so, OK, let's see what Jews have to say about his Jesus:

In Chapter 10 of the English Translation, Maimonides' Mishnah Torah curses Jesus Christ:

"It is a mitzvah (religious duty) however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot." (pg. 184)

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Jewish views

Main article: Judaism's view of Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus)

See also: Jesus in the Talmud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud)

Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, Hareidi Judaism, Reform Judaism, Conservative Judaism, and Reconstructionist Judaism, rejects the idea of Jesus being God, or a person of a Trinity, or a mediator to God. Judaism also holds that Jesus is not the Messiah, arguing that he had not fulfilled the Messianic prophecies in the Tanakh nor embodied the personal qualifications of the Messiah. According to Jewish tradition, there were no more prophets after Malachi, who lived centuries before Jesus and delivered his prophesies about 420 BC/BCE.[382][clarification needed]

The Babylonian Talmud include stories of Yeshu יֵשׁוּ; the vast majority of contemporary historians disregard these as sources on the historical Jesus.[331] Contemporary Talmud scholars view these as comments on the relationship between Judaism and Christians or other sectarians, rather than comments on the historical Jesus.[383][384]

The Mishneh Torah, an authoritative work of Jewish law, provides the last established consensus view of the Jewish community, in Hilkhot Melakhim 11:10–12 that Jesus is a "stumbling block" who makes "the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God".

Even Jesus the Nazarene who imagined that he would be Messiah and was killed by the court, was already prophesied by Daniel. So that it was said, "And the members of the outlaws of your nation would be carried to make a (prophetic) vision stand. And they stumbled."[Dan. 11:14] Because, is there a greater stumbling-block than this one? So that all of the prophets spoke that the Messiah redeems Israel, and saves them, and gathers their banished ones, and strengthens their commandments. And this one caused (nations) to destroy Israel by sword, and to scatter their remnant, and to humiliate them, and to exchange the Torah, and to make the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God. However, the thoughts of the Creator of the world — there is no force in a human to attain them because our ways are not God's ways, and our thoughts not God's thoughts. And all these things of Jesus the Nazarene, and of (Muhammad) the Ishmaelite who stood after him — there is no (purpose) but to straighten out the way for the King Messiah, and to restore all the world to serve God together. So that it is said, "Because then I will turn toward the nations (giving them) a clear lip, to call all of them in the name of God and to serve God (shoulder to shoulder as) one shoulder."[Zeph. 3:9] Look how all the world already becomes full of the things of the Messiah, and the things of the Torah, and the things of the commandments! And these things spread among the far islands and among the many nations uncircumcised of heart.[385]

According to Conservative Judaism, Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah have "crossed the line out of the Jewish community".[386] Reform Judaism, the modern progressive movement, states "For us in the Jewish community anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew and is an apostate".[387]

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#Jewish_views)

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And there is much more in the following articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus (worth reading fully)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

So, here is what Jews have to say about Jesus. They totally repudiate him and consider those who accept him no longer Jews but apostates.

[veritas]

He says "ask Jews", so, OK, let's see what Jews have to say about his Jesus:

In Chapter 10 of the English Translation, Maimonides' Mishnah Torah curses Jesus Christ:

"It is a mitzvah (religious duty) however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot." (pg. 184)

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Jewish views

Main article: Judaism's view of Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus)

See also: Jesus in the Talmud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud)

Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, Hareidi Judaism, Reform Judaism, Conservative Judaism, and Reconstructionist Judaism, rejects the idea of Jesus being God, or a person of a Trinity, or a mediator to God. Judaism also holds that Jesus is not the Messiah, arguing that he had not fulfilled the Messianic prophecies in the Tanakh nor embodied the personal qualifications of the Messiah. According to Jewish tradition, there were no more prophets after Malachi, who lived centuries before Jesus and delivered his prophesies about 420 BC/BCE.[382][clarification needed]

The Babylonian Talmud include stories of Yeshu יֵשׁוּ; the vast majority of contemporary historians disregard these as sources on the historical Jesus.[331] Contemporary Talmud scholars view these as comments on the relationship between Judaism and Christians or other sectarians, rather than comments on the historical Jesus.[383][384]

The Mishneh Torah, an authoritative work of Jewish law, provides the last established consensus view of the Jewish community, in Hilkhot Melakhim 11:10–12 that Jesus is a "stumbling block" who makes "the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God".

Even Jesus the Nazarene who imagined that he would be Messiah and was killed by the court, was already prophesied by Daniel. So that it was said, "And the members of the outlaws of your nation would be carried to make a (prophetic) vision stand. And they stumbled."[Dan. 11:14] Because, is there a greater stumbling-block than this one? So that all of the prophets spoke that the Messiah redeems Israel, and saves them, and gathers their banished ones, and strengthens their commandments. And this one caused (nations) to destroy Israel by sword, and to scatter their remnant, and to humiliate them, and to exchange the Torah, and to make the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God. However, the thoughts of the Creator of the world — there is no force in a human to attain them because our ways are not God's ways, and our thoughts not God's thoughts. And all these things of Jesus the Nazarene, and of (Muhammad) the Ishmaelite who stood after him — there is no (purpose) but to straighten out the way for the King Messiah, and to restore all the world to serve God together. So that it is said, "Because then I will turn toward the nations (giving them) a clear lip, to call all of them in the name of God and to serve God (shoulder to shoulder as) one shoulder."[Zeph. 3:9] Look how all the world already becomes full of the things of the Messiah, and the things of the Torah, and the things of the commandments! And these things spread among the far islands and among the many nations uncircumcised of heart.[385]

According to Conservative Judaism, Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah have "crossed the line out of the Jewish community".[386] Reform Judaism, the modern progressive movement, states "For us in the Jewish community anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew and is an apostate".[387]

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#Jewish_views)

***

And there is much more in the following articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus (worth reading fully)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

So, here is what Jews have to say about Jesus. They totally repudiate him and consider those who accept him no longer Jews but apostates.

the alternative being admit they're fore fathers sent a man of peace to face torturer and execution by those who enslaved them
then chose to free a rapist thief and murder when offered the chance to appease all sides by the Romans ?

now now dear those men had and made very good lawyers , no to admit they're ancestors were responsible for the alleged murder of the flesh of god is not conceivable, to even kill another Jew is regarded as the gravest of sins

[ernest]

the alternative being admit they're fore fathers... etc etc

Why do you write in rubbish and incomprehensible english?

[veritas]

the alternative being admit they're fore fathers... etc etc

Why do you write in rubbish and incomprehensible english?

Facts are incomprehensible to you

what i lack in punctuation , through laziness ,is still both easily read and understood by those who have basic grasp of Queens English
why do you post such ill mannered dumb arse questions ?

[ernest]

Did you really go to English school?
If you did, why do you fart instead of write? Bowel problem?

[veritas]

Did you really go to English school?
If you did, why do you fart instead of write? Bowel problem?

remove your butplug your lips you *** hole

squeeze head then blow nose and clean the **** out of your mouth , wherever your from its sure as Hades not a decent British schooling's back ground Jewish , Catholic or Prodestant

[ernest]

they're...your from...back ground...
that's simply nekulturny, as our russian friends (and Stanley Kubrick in Clockwork Orange) would say!
Too bad you make it so difficult to read, some of your threads are even interesting...

[Hood]

He says "ask Jews", so, OK, let's see what Jews have to say about his Jesus:

In Chapter 10 of the English Translation, Maimonides' Mishnah Torah curses Jesus Christ:

"It is a mitzvah (religious duty) however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot." (pg. 184)

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Jewish views

Main article: Judaism's view of Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus)

See also: Jesus in the Talmud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud)

Judaism, including Orthodox Judaism, Hareidi Judaism, Reform Judaism, Conservative Judaism, and Reconstructionist Judaism, rejects the idea of Jesus being God, or a person of a Trinity, or a mediator to God. Judaism also holds that Jesus is not the Messiah, arguing that he had not fulfilled the Messianic prophecies in the Tanakh nor embodied the personal qualifications of the Messiah. According to Jewish tradition, there were no more prophets after Malachi, who lived centuries before Jesus and delivered his prophesies about 420 BC/BCE.[382][clarification needed]

The Babylonian Talmud include stories of Yeshu יֵשׁוּ; the vast majority of contemporary historians disregard these as sources on the historical Jesus.[331] Contemporary Talmud scholars view these as comments on the relationship between Judaism and Christians or other sectarians, rather than comments on the historical Jesus.[383][384]

The Mishneh Torah, an authoritative work of Jewish law, provides the last established consensus view of the Jewish community, in Hilkhot Melakhim 11:10–12 that Jesus is a "stumbling block" who makes "the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God".

Even Jesus the Nazarene who imagined that he would be Messiah and was killed by the court, was already prophesied by Daniel. So that it was said, "And the members of the outlaws of your nation would be carried to make a (prophetic) vision stand. And they stumbled."[Dan. 11:14] Because, is there a greater stumbling-block than this one? So that all of the prophets spoke that the Messiah redeems Israel, and saves them, and gathers their banished ones, and strengthens their commandments. And this one caused (nations) to destroy Israel by sword, and to scatter their remnant, and to humiliate them, and to exchange the Torah, and to make the majority of the world err to serve a divinity besides God. However, the thoughts of the Creator of the world — there is no force in a human to attain them because our ways are not God's ways, and our thoughts not God's thoughts. And all these things of Jesus the Nazarene, and of (Muhammad) the Ishmaelite who stood after him — there is no (purpose) but to straighten out the way for the King Messiah, and to restore all the world to serve God together. So that it is said, "Because then I will turn toward the nations (giving them) a clear lip, to call all of them in the name of God and to serve God (shoulder to shoulder as) one shoulder."[Zeph. 3:9] Look how all the world already becomes full of the things of the Messiah, and the things of the Torah, and the things of the commandments! And these things spread among the far islands and among the many nations uncircumcised of heart.[385]

According to Conservative Judaism, Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah have "crossed the line out of the Jewish community".[386] Reform Judaism, the modern progressive movement, states "For us in the Jewish community anyone who claims that Jesus is their savior is no longer a Jew and is an apostate".[387]

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#Jewish_views)

***

And there is much more in the following articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus (worth reading fully)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

So, here is what Jews have to say about Jesus. They totally repudiate him and consider those who accept him no longer Jews but apostates.

It is an prove that Jesus existed and was not caesar. It is more important that Jews opinion.