Engine Originality vs. Engine Strength

[Charles]

Free market is the solution -- please read Milton Friedman - , and understand basic economics before you reply me.

Free markets were the reason for the WORLD WIDE ECONOMIC DISASTER we had a few months before.
Is your brain so much full of holes that you forgot what has happened a few months before ALL OVER THE WORLD ? whole countries went bancrupt because of the FREE MARKET your heroes
Reagan and Bush supported like hell.

without the help of neoliberal politicians all over the world, this deaster of organized criminal behaviour done by the stock market guys could not have happened.

if you have FREE markets without laws, it will helo criminals to misuse the markets.
if your homes do not have a lock, thiefs will go into them and rob out your home.

Obama is an unqualified hack set up by money interests and voted for by a gullible public.

strange . i always thought this about reagan and bush

Stupid people normally call intelligent ones stupid - so I understand your point of view.

so what is intelligent about reagan ? that he learned a role by heart ?
so what is intelligent about bush, that he fall into sleep because he bit into a brezel ?

People will not buy buggy products for ever.. Its called competition they will go to the superior product.

people bought buggy programs as long as chessbase existed.
chessbase never died because of the bugs. and the people did not buy it because of these bugs.

They are less buggy and more usable than open source software.

?
IMO Arena is superior to chessbase products.

You are brainwashed -- I can't help you - especially if you refuse to read Milton Friedman.

You are from Germany, it seems -- odd wasn't West Germany superior to East Germany because of the free (freer than E. Germany) market -- pity many there still have a thing for socialism and totalitarianism ...

You know nothing about American politics and what makes America work -- In fact I am afraid you will keep believing the lies fed to you by authoritarians, totalitarian regimes etc .

Funny how Lenin, Stalin and Hitler hated free markets ....they would have agreed 100% with you.

[kingliveson]

mmmmm...this popcorn tastes so gooooood.

[thorstenczub]

You are brainwashed -- I can't help you - especially if you refuse to read Milton Friedman.

is that your kind of discussion ?
If you read him, you should be capable to discuss his theory the way
it could support your point of views.

You are from Germany, it seems -- odd wasn't West Germany superior to East Germany because of the free (freer than E. Germany) market -- pity many there still have a thing for socialism and totalitarianism ...

west germany was not superior to east germany because of a free market.
west germany was never a free market economy.
we have a social market economy. you would call this communism with your
extremistic point of views.

west germany was lucky to get democracy and marshall plan, while east germany got a totalitarian system coming from stalin.
in opposite to west germany, who was massively helped by the americans, for the prize that the americans stopped any denazification,east germany was robbed out by the russians.
they took machines, industry and carried the stuff to russia.
they destroyed any democracy and implemented a totalitarian society, kind of bolshevism reloaded.

You know nothing about American politics and what makes America work -- In fact I am afraid you will keep believing the lies fed to you by authoritarians, totalitarian regimes etc .

sadly we get informed very much about USA. i never understood this.
its a continent far from ours.
IMO a completely unimportant continent. the only intersting people there were the indians that had been killed by the white men.

Funny how Lenin, Stalin and Hitler hated free markets ....they would have agreed 100% with you.

Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were dictators. no dictator is interested in freedom.
dictators want to control anything. markets. people. everything.

of course they would have agreed with me about controlling the markets.

but that does not mean that i am wrong.
we have have to control the markets to protect the people and the societies.
we cannot allow criminal stock market people to misuse our freedom for their
crimes.

[Charles]

Funny how Lenin, Stalin and Hitler hated free markets ....they would have agreed 100% with you.

Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were dictators. no dictator is interested in freedom.
dictators want to control anything. markets. people. everything.

of course they would have agreed with me about controlling the markets.

but that does not mean that i am wrong.
we have have to control the markets to protect the people and the societies.
we cannot allow criminal stock market people to misuse our freedom for their
crimes.

Of course! Glad to know you agree with those guys -- I just happen to think Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were wrong but I guess you beg to differ.

[thorstenczub]

Of course! Glad to know you agree with those guys -- I just happen to think Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were wrong but I guess you beg to differ.

of course i agree with them.
society HAS to control the markets.
otherwise the markets do whatever they want to make profit.
World and societies are not existing to allow a few criminals to exploit a free market system,
world and society is there to BE FOR THE PEOPLE. Not vice versa.

so if hitler said "the sky is blue" or " one should be vegetarians" or "be nice to your dog"

YOU would not do so or believe because this was said by hitler/stalin/...

???

then thats the difference between you and me. i am capable to decide which statements from dictators are bullshit and which statements of them are normal.

[Charles]

Of course! Glad to know you agree with those guys -- I just happen to think Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were wrong but I guess you beg to differ.

of course i agree with them.
society HAS to control the markets.
otherwise the markets do whatever they want to make profit.
World and societies are not existing to allow a few criminals to exploit a free market system,
world and society is there to BE FOR THE PEOPLE. Not vice versa.

so if hitler said "the sky is blue" or " one should be vegetarians" or "be nice to your dog"

YOU would not do so or believe because this was said by hitler/stalin/...

???

then thats the difference between you and me. i am capable to decide which statements from dictators are bullshit and which statements of them are normal.

YOu have no idea how capitalism and free markets work.
Read Milton Friedman to understand how free markets and capitalism work. You are simply not knowledgeable on it. All you can do is trash talk with me with no facts.
There is a reason why Hitler and Co wanted to CONTROL the markets -- they can then control the people.

IN a free market economy it is the people who control the markets not the government ...-- Once again -- if you don't understand this then you should research this for yourself.


You also see nothing wrong with programmers stealing from an original work and passing it off as their own with slight improvements. --

[thorstenczub]

YOu have no idea how capitalism and free markets work.
Read Milton Friedman to understand how free markets and capitalism work. You are simply not knowledgeable on it. All you can do is trash talk with me with no facts.

i see how FREE MARKET and capitalism works.
criminal people exploit libertarian system to steal money from other people, who have to pay
for the damage these stock market experts caused.

this is capitalism. we produce goods in development countries. your capitalistic presidents feed dictators all over the world (mubarak, gadaffi, ben ali, osama bin laden, hussein...)
to exploit the people, take away their oil. their diamonds. their goods.
all the luxury good of USA (ipad etc.) were produced in countries like china, korea,...

children do this job.
children are in the mines under earth to get metal for the mobiles we use.

thats what you call free market. its dictatorship of the poor areas, poor people in the world.

There is a reason why Hitler and Co wanted to CONTROL the markets -- they can then control the people.

IN a free market economy it is the people who control the markets not the government ...-- Once again -- if you don't understand this then you should research this for yourself.

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hitler and co. controlled the people, without controlling a market.
they controlled the people with dictatorship.
they killed those people who disagreed.
people can never control a market. how do you want to do this ? do you have an idea how easily peole can be manipulated ?
i am a salesman. i can tell you how easily people can be manipulated to buy the product you want make them buy.

there is no way for people to control any market , not in a controlled market. not in a free market. thats utopia.

You also see nothing wrong with programmers stealing from an original work and passing it off as their own with slight improvements.

what a nonsense. i was always against vas rajlich cloning stuff from fabian letouzey.
how can you say i support people who steal ? I never supported rajlich.
his "took ideas from fabian"....

[Charles]

But this is silly -- I am explaining that you do not understand capitalism and free market -- and you keep harping on what you "see" -- You are blind -- you dont understand what you see.

Can you explain why all those with similar viewpoints to you want to control people AND ARE RICH?
Forget lenin & co ... look at George Soros and others of his ilk -- they don't like capitalism even though they supposedly reaped its rewards -- what they want is POWER and in a free market society there is competition and middle class people have power.
The rich want to take from the middle class that is what you support -- but if you dont understand economics so you wont get it.
The marxist believe in two classes the ruling class and the peasants -- in a free market economy there is no ruling class - there is a very fluid and large middle class + just very small limited government to ensure that no one cheats , kills etc

[thorstenczub]

so where is your utopia ?
UK ?
USA ?

can you explain to me why the people in UK, take e.g. the poor people in uk, have to pay
such an idiot like prince charles or his whole stupid incestious family ?

these monarchists are parasites.
they live from the money workers in UK have to earn.

where do you see your "middle classe" that is vivid ?
in USA ?
in UK ?

where is your utopia ?

[Charles]

Utopia? -- marxists have utopia that does not exist.

US was doing very well under Reagan - and continued to do well up to now - still doing better than almost all countries in the world INCLUDING Germany.
US has one of the largest middle class in the world --

Milton Friedman discussed the best countries for capitalism -- Honk Kong was one, US is one, there are others I dont remember.