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SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:42 am
by loneash51
Does anyone have this engine? SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:12 am
by APOCALYPSE
loneash51 wrote: βThu Jul 20, 2023 7:42 am
Does anyone have this engine? SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Hi loneash51,
This is my private engine which can be purchased via this email:
full12horvig@gmail.com
Thanks
Best regards
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:48 am
by IbaiBuR
Are you attaching the source code of the engine while selling it? Because if not this is completely illegal!
Anyways, there is no way someone buys an Stockfish derivate with probably copy pasted changes which are practically useless
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:39 am
by APOCALYPSE
IbaiBuR wrote: βThu Jul 20, 2023 11:48 am
Are you attaching the source code of the engine while selling it? Because if not this is completely illegal!
Anyways, there is no way someone buys an Stockfish derivate with probably copy pasted changes which are practically useless
Do they attach the source code when selling a private Dragon engine β no, and they do it right, because why should they
https://komodochess.com/dragon-3.2.htm donate their work to someone for a penny!?!
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:27 am
by IbaiBuR
It is not the same man, you are using the source code of Stockfish which is publicly available and licensed under GPLv3, you can sell a derivative but you ALWAYS have to attach the source code. What you are doing is completely illegal!
Dragon is a private engine selled by chess.com, they are not obliged to attach the source code if they dont want to. Do you understand now?
Anyways, what is so "valuable" and "innovative" about your work that you dont want to share it?! 3 copy-pasted parameter changes or something similar?
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:03 am
by APOCALYPSE
IbaiBuR wrote: βSun Jul 23, 2023 9:27 am
It is not the same man, you are using the source code of Stockfish which is publicly available and licensed under GPLv3, you can sell a derivative but you
ALWAYS have to attach the source code. What you are doing is completely illegal!
Dragon is a private engine selled by chess.com, they are not obliged to attach the source code if they dont want to. Do you understand now?
Anyways, what is so "valuable" and "innovative" about your work that you dont want to share it?! 3 copy-pasted parameter changes or something similar?
I don't owe anything to anyone, just like any other person
I take only part of the source code from Stockfish, so it's up to me to decide what to do with the engine and code, and absolutely no one is forcing you to make purchases.
Let's end this discussion.
Best regards.
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:05 pm
by IbaiBuR
It is not up to you, you are not complying with the GPLv3 license Stockfish is licensed with, therefore what you are doing is illegal!
Similar to what ChessBase did with FF2.
And I am sure you are taking the full Stockfish source code.
Anyways, yeah, lets end this discussion, I hope that people that make derivatives dont follow the same path as you, because it is not fair!
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:32 pm
by APOCALYPSE
IbaiBuR wrote: βSun Jul 23, 2023 12:05 pm
It is not up to you, you are not complying with the GPLv3 license Stockfish is licensed with, therefore what you are doing is illegal!
Similar to what ChessBase did with FF2.
And I am sure you are taking the full Stockfish source code.
Anyways, yeah, lets end this discussion, I hope that people that make derivatives dont follow the same path as you, because it is not fair!
I already told you everything in a message earlier, so if you have trouble understanding, then re-read the message several times, and then you donβt need to turn what I said in your own way and opinion, but I understand what you wanted to tell me.
Best regards.
Dot.
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:26 pm
by APOCALYPSE
Re: SF-Pro 15.07.2023
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:59 pm
by IbaiBuR
Yeah, as expected, an StockfishMZ / SugaR complete clone