Skynet bin books

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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:30 am

Skynet wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:36 am
Lucky you.. :difus_1 :difus_1 But be aware, M.Z is watching you so you may be next on baning list.. :difus_13
Indeed.. )

Btw, today a chess friend of mine informed that,
I am also banned in Outskirts chess forum...

On other hand,
I was a member in many chess forum (more than 20 years ..)
And for the 1st time in my chess hobby... I was banned.. hehe..
And in my next time, I am going to ban Sugar from SCCT !)

This guys (Marco) is definitely in wrong way...no any other explanation of that..
I don't know exactly why ... but my 6th sense says just because I stated recently that
I lost my interest to be as frequent member in Outskirts...

What I can say more over this issue,
I'd prefer Freedom over Outskirts Gold medals !)

Greetings

ZamChess
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Re: Skynet bin books

Post by ZamChess » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:10 am

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:30 am
Skynet wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:36 am
Lucky you.. :difus_1 :difus_1 But be aware, M.Z is watching you so you may be next on baning list.. :difus_13
Indeed.. )

Btw, today a chess friend of mine informed that,
I am also banned in Outskirts chess forum...

On other hand,
I was a member in many chess forum (more than 20 years ..)
And for the 1st time in my chess hobby... I was banned.. hehe..
And in my next time, I am going to ban Sugar from SCCT !)

This guys (Marco) is definitely in wrong way...no any other explanation of that..
I don't know exactly why ... but my 6th sense says just because I stated recently that
I lost my interest to be as frequent member in Outskirts...

What I can say more over this issue,
I'd prefer Freedom over Outskirts Gold medals !)

Greetings
Welcome Sedat !
The number of exiles on Outskirts is increasing every day...
All the best.

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:18 am

ZamChess wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:10 am

The number of exiles on Outskirts is increasing every day...
All the best.[/b][/color]
Hello ZamChess )

Thank you!

And nice to see you...

About the exiles on Outskirts forum,
Nowadays it's a trend of banning there! e.g
Recently many innocent members are suffered...

Anyhow, at least I can say for my side,
I've left firstly his funny chess forum...
I mean definitely the banning came after my statement...
It seems Marco is affected a lot by SCCT's News!

This is other question of course,
But since we are talking all about Outskirts forum
I'l try to explain what happened (before I left the forum)
Marco contacted me privately and said something like that
According to forum rules, chess links are not allowed anymore..

My final replay to Marco was like that,
I respect...you are the BOSS...
You have plenty of valuable forum members, so
Even without Sedat: there will be no BIG loss..

And without to not mention this I can not as well,
I became a member (in Outskirts+MZ) via kind invitations by their Admins,
Just only a few of them: Scorpio, Vitamin's author, Hurnavich,
Plus Marco contacted me several times via Fecebook etc.
What I am trying to tell you, without their invitations...
Probably I'd not be even as a member in Marco's both forums...

As final words,
I spent BIG efforts for contribution over both his forums,
Plus I was one of 1st Sugar testers..e.g in those old days
Many Experts were against testing such clone engines...
But I accepted...after all, as a result, if I deserve this..
E.g it's not allowing anymore sharing my chess site links etc.
It is all right.. .. but next time,
I will think very seriously about suggesting or not his site...


Greetings

Amos 4ever
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Real Name: Marco Zerbinati

Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Amos 4ever » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:13 pm

Caro Sedat,
you're telling the story your way making me look like an asshole, so let's leave it to the readers to judge if I really was:

(I will not show screenshots of your answers out of respect for your privacy)

Image

Image

Then you started making fun of me with sarcasm asking me where you can upload large data (pgn, books) to the Outskirts forum
also writing "Believe Me, if I knew about the link rule,
I would follow it strictly...
You know I am a strict man"


Always politely and without picking up on your subtle provocations, I replied:

Image

Again with sarcasm you replied:

" see... but as far as I know,
Pixeldraim is related to other source..it is not a Outskirts link...
Or maybe I am missing something ?

Ok my dear chess friend, under these conditions.
I have lost my interest to work any longer here...

Plus, you have plenty of valuable members,
So there will be no BIG loss....without Sedat )"


When it seems clear to me that the rule is understandable

In your case you do a sort of preview forcing the reader to click on your forum to read the full article or to download materials.
Outskirts as I believe any forum I do not think it is fair to be used as a mirror to forcefully direct users to visit your site.
Fed up with your ironic replies which are the exact opposite of the respect I have shown in contacting you,
this was my final answer:
Image

Now everyone can read how the facts really went, if the people who have read believe that it's me who behaved badly, it means that I still don't understand anything about life.

Greetings
M.Z

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:14 pm

Amos 4ever wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:13 pm
Caro Sedat,
you're telling the story your way making me look like an asshole, so let's leave it to the readers to judge if I really was:

Greetings
M.Z
Dear Marco,

No comments...exception as you said,
Let's leave the readers to decide....who is right who is wrong...
But anyhow..not all of our messages (each other) are published..
Actually not so important, but there is one true: I like Freedom!
And as I stated before, I respect your rules...but you have to learn that
Under these conditions, I am no longer interested as active member...
Or is it prohibited (in your forum) if I am not as frequent member or ?

As final words, I think that
We were as good chess friends (till a few days ago...)
And what is changed that I'm already banned on your forum?
For what kind of reason ?
Just because I stated: I lost my interest to be frequent member..?

However, now is already clear that
All this friendship was as fake (by your side)!

And I do not want to talk more,
Because these kind of discussions lead to nowhere...

Thank you for all...and I wish all the best,
Sedat

Amos 4ever
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Real Name: Marco Zerbinati

Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Amos 4ever » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:45 pm

Skynet wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:42 am
OlisFish180623 / Best move = off - book depth = 255.
https://pixeldrain.com/u/VBqe4HQ5
Note: book is marked.

Small request from the forum members, please don't share any of my stuff posted here on outskirts.altervista.org .. Since i (among with some other members) was banned without any reason, although i did not violate any forum rules and did not insult anyone. After all that years while i was Moderator, i was spending my free time for nothing by moving, deleting, correcting posts and topics etc, (IMHO) i believe i was also a good contributor, making engines for android and PC, making books and engines tests on android and PC, making opening books etc. I suddenly became a NOT WELCOME person on the outskirts forum. Anyway, who cares, i can live with that, but i don't want to share anything or have anything in common with that forum anymore.
Thank you for understanding.
Dear Alex,
Are you wondering why I banned all 3?
It's not the first time you and Nemesis have resigned, leaving me in the shit, without even giving me time to replace you.
Regarding recent events, you have joined forces declaring that you feel useless and accusing me of making decisions without consulting you.
This is not entirely true
Without any offense it is not the duty of an Administrator to consult in certain situations, especially when the forum suffers damage due to a Hosting system crash.
Even less if the decisions concern Rootkits which in a particular polymorphic form modify the addressing of the forum pages.
This is what happened, so my right and forced decisions have no reason to be questioned.
What are we talking about?
of 580 posts written by Nemesis in the Fun Corner section?
or of the 459 Posts always written by Nemesis in the Fun Images section?

However if you are an honest person you cannot deny that for any modification or improvement to the forum I have written to you in the Staff section, also always sending you a message inviting you to read it.
So what do you want me to tell you.. I feel hurt by all of you for how you wrongly accused me but above all for leaving me alone once again.
Try putting yourself in my place and imagine how you would have felt
I admit my only fault, that of banishing you out of anger.

I hope you understand the meaning of my words (I don't speak English and I use the translator)

Amos 4ever
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Real Name: Marco Zerbinati

Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Amos 4ever » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:03 pm

Specific in red text,
your complete replies in PM are missing, which I omitted out of respect for your privacy
I clearly wrote what prompted me to ban you
what you write in this message has nothing to do with it
I don't care even to keep talking about it either
and I wish you the best too
But know that I will continue to answer you every time you twist the meaning of my words.
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:14 pm
Amos 4ever wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:13 pm
Caro Sedat,
you're telling the story your way making me look like an asshole, so let's leave it to the readers to judge if I really was:

Greetings
M.Z
Dear Marco,

No comments...exception as you said,
Let's leave the readers to decide....who is right who is wrong...
But anyhow..not all of our messages (each other) are published..
Actually not so important, but there is one true: I like Freedom!
And as I stated before, I respect your rules...but you have to learn that
Under these conditions, I am no longer interested as active member...
Or is it prohibited (in your forum) if I am not as frequent member or ?

As final words, I think that
We were as good chess friends (till a few days ago...)
And what is changed that I'm already banned on your forum?
For what kind of reason ?
Just because I stated: I lost my interest to be frequent member..?

However, now is already clear that
All this friendship was as fake (by your side)!

And I do not want to talk more,
Because these kind of discussions lead to nowhere...

Thank you for all...and I wish all the best,
Sedat

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:09 pm

Amos 4ever wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:03 pm
Specific in red text,
your complete replies in PM are missing, which I omitted out of respect for your privacy
I clearly wrote what prompted me to ban you
what you write in this message has nothing to do with it
I don't care even to keep talking about it either
and I wish you the best too
But know that I will continue to answer you every time you twist the meaning of my words.
Thank you

Well, talking and talking, but it seems
We do not understand each other

Anyhow,
I will try to explain in different way, but as last time
Because I have more important things to do...!

1st,
You have to remember that
I came to your both forums via invitations!

In other words, why in your invitations:
You or your Admins did not warm me that,
External chess links are not allowed...
I have a lot of postings in many other forums..so
I mean that you and your Admins had to know that
My style of working on forums is like that
I prefer often sharing my chess site links...
Sure If you do not accept it I can understand..
But where you have been before ? in those days
You were not as BOSS ??

To be more clear,
Why your recent private message is coming too late-nowadays ?
Maybe because a few years ago... your forum was so new...
Is this can be reason that you needed well-known members ?
Or perhaps now you think that your forum became very popular ?
Maybe that's why you started to talk about these web link rules...
And you say also that now I am advertising my site...come on ))
Not sure...who wanted to make advertising... via using my name..
Ok... I do not want to talk more over.. let's leave to the people to decide:
Who wants to make advertising...you or Me...

On other hand,
You did not want to replay to my question..about why I am banned..
Sure... now you became as BIG boss...You have right to ban everyone, right ?
Even for unknown reason...ok...for the moment, you think that you won?

As last word, I will tell one thing,
Next time just do not allow to your Admins:
To send Me invitations again ...because next time:
- I do not think to make the same mistake as twice!

Greetings

Amos 4ever
Posts: 60
Joined: Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:42 pm
Real Name: Marco Zerbinati

Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Amos 4ever » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:04 pm

Unfortunately I was forced to change the rules based on the events. I explained this to you when I politely pointed out that I can't make exceptions, because being too permissive was going too far.
if you don't understand it's your limit, it's not my fault
Perhaps you, by the way you express yourself, think you are a chess divinity
but the one who advertised his site through mine is you.
To me your posts written as a preview of the original post which is only available on your site, what contribution could they have given me?
They have value only on your site where users can fully read your topics
Even here, if you don't realize it, it's just your limit

Here neither of us is a God..
My forum has become what you see thanks to the contribution of all users who have shared content of the highest quality and above all without forcing others to go elsewhere to finish reading the content.

Greetings

M.Z
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 4:09 pm
Amos 4ever wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:03 pm
Specific in red text,
your complete replies in PM are missing, which I omitted out of respect for your privacy
I clearly wrote what prompted me to ban you
what you write in this message has nothing to do with it
I don't care even to keep talking about it either
and I wish you the best too
But know that I will continue to answer you every time you twist the meaning of my words.
Thank you

Well, talking and talking, but it seems
We do not understand each other

Anyhow,
I will try to explain in different way, but as last time
Because I have more important things to do...!

1st,
You have to remember that
I came to your both forums via invitations!

In other words, why in your invitations:
You or your Admins did not warm me that,
External chess links are not allowed...
I have a lot of postings in many other forums..so
I mean that you and your Admins had to know that
My style of working on forums is like that
I prefer often sharing my chess site links...
Sure If you do not accept it I can understand..
But where you have been before ? in those days
You were not as BOSS ??

To be more clear,
Why your recent private message is coming too late-nowadays ?
Maybe because a few years ago... your forum was so new...
Is this can be reason that you needed well-known members ?
Or perhaps now you think that your forum became very popular ?
Maybe that's why you started to talk about these web link rules...
And you say also that now I am advertising my site...come on ))
Not sure...who wanted to make advertising... via using my name..
Ok... I do not want to talk more over.. let's leave to the people to decide:
Who wants to make advertising...you or Me...

On other hand,
You did not want to replay to my question..about why I am banned..
Sure... now you became as BIG boss...You have right to ban everyone, right ?
Even for unknown reason...ok...for the moment, you think that you won?

As last word, I will tell one thing,
Next time just do not allow to your Admins:
To send Me invitations again ...because next time:
- I do not think to make the same mistake as twice!

Greetings

Sedat Canbaz
Posts: 1911
Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:29 am

Re: Skynet bin books

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:30 pm

Amos 4ever wrote:
Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:04 pm
Unfortunately I was forced to change the rules based on the events. I explained this to you when I politely pointed out that I can't make exceptions, because being too permissive was going too far.
if you don't understand it's your limit, it's not my fault
Perhaps you, by the way you express yourself, think you are a chess divinity

Greetings

M.Z

Well, I see that
You still do not read my all comments and questions
If you do not know English ..this is other queestion

I respect your web rules, but I disagree with them!
Is there any problem here (by your side) ?

Btw, if you are asking my opinion,
From my side no any problem...it is all tight...
You are the BOSS...but on your forum chess site!
You will go on your way..where I will go on my way!


And I once more,
But the most important question is coming:
Why I am banned ? for what kind of reason ?
Did I use any faul language?
Did I attack any other member etc?

Remember that,
Via advertising (like you think), in same time means:
I've advertised many times your great SugaR engine!

But your brain can not not see unfortunately...
Sad... I can talk more but I hardly doubt that
You will understand Me...what is going on..

By the way,
The missing postings in your screenshots which
You did not prefer to publish was like that:
Due to no free time for all, I do not want to make double
Postings e.g on my site and on your chess forum too...
That's why I prefer to give my direct chess links...

Otherwise...via double postings:
I have to be crazy, mad man..to work on two chess sites!

Look what I will tell more,
I have plenty of SedatChess's visitors and before than your forums were born!
In other words, as I mentioned before,
I do not need your forum site for advertising..believe me..
Simply I came to your forum, in regards for Hurnavich and for you!
Just because I thought that we are good friends...to be sure,
Check other forums please (e.g in my latest 5 years),
If my goal was advertising...I'd prefer exc. Outskirts
Many many other forums as well...the point is not that

And be a little brave and explain to chess community:
Why I was banned (by you) ??? is very hard question?
If you can not.. please do not waste more my time..
Thank you!

Greetings

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