Lizard 11.2

[Homayoun]

Many thanks Sedat. Your tests has made many things clear for me and other members. Yes, both engines are very powerful. But unfortunately now a days we see many draws in classic chess. And may be That’s why recently other chess variants like chess 960 are very popular. Where ,there is no stereotype or opening preparations for humans or for engines.
Best regards

[Sedat Canbaz]

Many thanks Sedat. Your tests has made many things clear for me and other members. Yes, both engines are very powerful. But unfortunately now a days we see many draws in classic chess. And may be That’s why recently other chess variants like chess 960 are very popular. Where ,there is no stereotype or opening preparations for humans or for engines.
Best regards

You are welcome )

Yeah, you have right...

But anyhow, I think also that
There is still 'room' for game play, even if using strong suites!
Because in most cases, all these high draw values are on scene,
If playing itself by 3700+ Elo, but if bullet 3600+ 3700+Elo tours,
then the overall draws are
Minus plus 80% -85%, I mean still acceptable and to appear FUN )

Btw, if you going to ask my opinion about all over:
I'd prefer strong openings and 85% draws than weak openings and 50% draws!
Because 'quality' is everything..and we have to fight for it!

Greetings

[Homayoun]

I agree with you Sedat. I prefer strong openings too. Even if the result will be draw. Some chess fans think that draw games doesn’t have any excitement. Only one side should win and then they feel the game is beautiful. But it is not necessarily true. Sometimes some of draw games are very beautiful and exciting too. Like you I like solid and strong games by both side( players).
Best regards

[Sedat Canbaz]

I agree with you Sedat. I prefer strong openings too. Even if the result will be draw. Some chess fans think that draw games doesn’t have any excitement. Only one side should win and then they feel the game is beautiful. But it is not necessarily true. Sometimes some of draw games are very beautiful and exciting too. Like you I like solid and strong games by both side( players).
Best regards

Good points by you!

Yes Homayoun, you are reading my mind )

Actually, rather I'd say,
Some of these testers are not aware (in reality): what is strong, what is weak..
Plus they have complexities to pronounce the word: weak / strong openings..
Since NNUE (2020): they started a new term: balanced / not balanced, hehe ))
In their eyes, if it's a draw: it's a disaster... if a win: perfect )) Btw, according
To available data, resources etc...I can't say they are serious engine testers !
Or you'll never notice them to be as Top players on serious arena platforms...
Perhaps they are good on theirs own PC?) but our chess world is much bigger..!

Greetings

[Homayoun]