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Interest?
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:27 pm
by LucenaTheLucid
Would there be any interest at all in this tournament:
Engine Score DeFiHoKoNaRoStDaHiIv S-B
01: Deep Rybka 4 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: Fire 1.31 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: Houdini 1.03a 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: Komodo 1.2 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: Naum 4.2 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: RobboLito 009 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: Stockfish 1.8 JA 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: Damir's Rybka Killer 75 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: Hiarcs13.1SP 0.0/0 · 0.00
01: IvanHoe 999954 0.0/0 · 0.00
0 of 450 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament 2
Site/ Country: LIVING-ROOM-COM, United States
Level: Blitz 4/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1640 with 1,920 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Tournaments\Arena tournament.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:
Any suggestions on what to add subtract? Other than commercials I don't already own.
Re: Interest?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:38 am
by Uly
Yeah, change Rybka 4 settings to Normal Move Time 56, Max Move Time 102, and let's see how it does. Or add such a Rybka to the tourney, so see if it does better than default.
Normal Move time tends to play too slow at 1+3 time controls, so it may play too slow at the start of the game at 4+1 and then having to live from a 1 second increment, I don't know, so it would be an interesting test.
Re: Interest?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:55 am
by LucenaTheLucid
I'll add it into the tournament. Thanks for the suggestion.
Early results:
Engine Score Da De Fi Ho Iv Ro Na St Hi Ko S-B
01: Damir's Rybka Killer 75 2.0/3 ····· 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.0/1 1.75
02: Deep Rybka 4 1.5/3 0.5/1 ····· 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.75
03: Fire 1.31 1.5/2 ····· 0.5/1 1.0/1 1.50
04: Houdini 1.03a 1.0/2 0.5/1 ····· 0.5/1 1.50
04: IvanHoe 999954 1.0/2 0.5/1 0.5/1 ····· 1.50
06: RobboLito 009 1.0/2 0.5/1 ····· 0.5/1 1.00
07: Naum 4.2 1.0/2 0.5/1 ····· 0.5/1 0.75
08: Stockfish 1.8 JA 1.0/2 0.0/1 ····· 1.0/1 0.50
09: Hiarcs 13.1 0.5/2 0.0/1 0.5/1 ····· 0.75
10: Komodo 1.2 0.5/2 0.5/1 0.0/1 ····· 0.50
11 of 450 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament 2
Site/ Country: LIVING-ROOM-COM, United States
Level: Blitz 4/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1640 with 1,920 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Tournaments\Arena tournament.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:
Re: Interest?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:35 am
by LucenaTheLucid
I keep adding engines to the list ^_^
Current total is 14 I think. Maybe I'll just turn this into a full fledged rating list? Anyone else care to contribute games? I can post a Crafty benchmark (we'll go off mine since my hardware is probably slower than most), and at anytime if you care to contribute games from whatever engines you want please do so.
I'll convert your benchmark score into a time limit. Also for the moment lets only test with 1 CPU. Ponder on if you have a multi-CPU computer.
Other strong untested engines that I do not currently have in my tournament:
Fritz 12
Shredder 12
Deep Sjeng WC2008
Junior 10
Iggorrit
Ippolit
Thinker 5.4D Inert
Fruit
Engine Score Ro Iv De Na Da Ho Fi St De Ko Hi Sp Cr S-B
01: RobboLito 009 3.0/4 ····· 1.0/1 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.0/1 4.75
02: IvanHoe 999954 2.5/4 ····· 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.0/1 0.5/1 4.00
03: Deep Rybka 4 2.5/5 0.0/1 0.5/1 ····· 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.0/1 2.50
04: Naum 4.2 2.0/3 0.5/1 ····· 1.0/1 0.5/1 3.50
05: Damir's Rybka Killer 75 2.0/3 0.5/1 ····· 0.5/1 1.0/1 2.50
06: Houdini 1.03a 1.5/3 0.5/1 0.5/1 ····· 0.5/1 3.00
07: Fire 1.31 1.5/3 0.5/1 0.0/1 ····· 1.0/1 2.75
08: Stockfish 1.8 JA 1.5/4 0.0/1 0.0/1 ····· 0.5/1 1.0/1 1.50
09: Deep Rybka 4 w32 Ovyron 1.0/2 0.5/1 0.5/1 ····· 2.00
10: Komodo 1.2 1.0/3 0.5/1 0.5/1 0.0/1 ····· 1.75
11: Hiarcs 13.1 0.5/3 0.0/1 0.5/1 0.0/1 ····· 1.25
12: Spark 0.4 0.0/0 ····· 0.00
12: Critter 0.70 0.0/1 0.0/1 ····· 0.00
19 of 780 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament 2
Site/ Country: LIVING-ROOM-COM, United States
Level: Blitz 4/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1640 with 1,920 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Tournaments\Arena tournament.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:
Re: Interest?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:14 am
by AnthonyTheSage
You definately need to add Shredder 12, with OA on. Don't bother with fritz, fritz is annoyingly stubborn by not making uci engines. I'm not familiar with newer processors, and I'm not sure whether yours is a dual core or single. But I'm about 80 percent sure on my single core p4 that Houdini 1.01 is the strongest version. I've also been waiting for someone to do some test on the upgraded toga II that used to be on the chesslogik site I think it was an upgraded toga II 1.3.1. I was alway curious to see if it was stronger. Put both togas in the match. They used to be good at blitz. Especially on a single core...........I just tried to get on the chesslogik site. The site seems to no longer exist. Anyways if you can find that toga do some blitz testing.
Re: Interest?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:31 pm
by LucenaTheLucid
When the tournament is over, Toga II will be added. I'll try finding the version you mentioned.
Engine Score De Ho Fi Ro Iv Da De Na St Ko Cr Sp S-B
01: Deep Rybka 4 11.5/17 ····· 0.0/1 0.0/1 0.0/1 1.5/2 1.0/2 1.5/2 1.0/1 2.0/2 1.0/1 2.0/2 1.5/2 75.50
02: Houdini 1.03a 11.0/16 1.0/1 ····· 1.0/2 1.0/2 0.5/1 1.0/2 1.5/2 1.0/1 1.0/1 1.5/2 1.0/1 0.5/1 86.25
03: Fire 1.31 11.0/16 1.0/1 1.0/2 ····· 0.5/1 1.0/2 1.0/1 1.0/1 1.0/2 1.5/2 0.5/1 0.5/1 2.0/2 82.75
04: RobboLito 009 10.0/16 1.0/1 1.0/2 0.5/1 ····· 1.0/1 1.0/1 1.0/2 1.0/2 1.0/2 0.5/1 1.5/2 0.5/1 79.50
05: IvanHoe 999954 9.0/16 0.5/2 0.5/1 1.0/2 0.0/1 ····· 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.0/1 1.5/2 0.5/2 1.0/1 2.0/2 63.00
06: Damir's Rybka Killer 75 8.5/16 1.0/2 1.0/2 0.0/1 0.0/1 0.5/1 ····· 1.0/2 1.5/2 1.0/1 1.0/1 1.0/2 0.5/1 65.00
07: Deep Rybka 4 w32 Ovyron 7.5/16 0.5/2 0.5/2 0.0/1 1.0/2 0.5/1 1.0/2 ····· 0.5/1 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.5/2 1.0/1 55.25
08: Naum 4.2 7.5/16 0.0/1 0.0/1 1.0/2 1.0/2 0.0/1 0.5/2 0.5/1 ····· 1.0/1 1.5/2 1.0/1 1.0/2 52.75
09: Stockfish 1.8 JA 7.0/17 0.0/2 0.0/1 0.5/2 1.0/2 0.5/2 0.0/1 0.5/1 0.0/1 ····· 2.0/2 0.5/1 2.0/2 44.25
10: Komodo 1.2 5.5/16 0.0/1 0.5/2 0.5/1 0.5/1 1.5/2 0.0/1 0.5/1 0.5/2 0.0/2 ····· 0.5/2 1.0/1 43.00
11: Critter 0.70 5.0/16 0.0/2 0.0/1 0.5/1 0.5/2 0.0/1 1.0/2 0.5/2 0.0/1 0.5/1 1.5/2 ····· 0.5/1 36.25
12: Spark 0.4 3.5/16 0.5/2 0.5/1 0.0/2 0.5/1 0.0/2 0.5/1 0.0/1 1.0/2 0.0/2 0.0/1 0.5/1 ····· 30.50
97 of 660 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament 2
Site/ Country: LIVING-ROOM-COM, United States
Level: Blitz 4/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1640 with 1,920 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)
PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Tournaments\Arena tournament.pgn
Website:
E-Mail Address:
Re: Interest?
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:15 pm
by AnthonyTheSage
Just wanted to mention that it was Toga II 1.4.1 SE not Toga II 1.3.1. And the version on the chesslogik site was Toga II 2.0 SE. Cheers.
Re: Interest?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:57 am
by LucenaTheLucid
Toga II 2.0 SE will be added tonight. Maybe later Toga II 1.4.1 SE after the tournament is finished.
I need more suggestions though! Maybe the last free Fruit version? Also I couldn't get Thinker to work in Arena. Hmm maybe I'll use Wael Deebs Fire 1.1 settings? Anyway we have a new leader!
Engine Score Ro Ho De Fi Iv De Da St Na Ko Cr Sp S-B
01: RobboLito 009 28.5/44 ····· 2.5/4 3.5/4 2.5/4 1.5/4 2.5/4 2.5/4 2.0/4 3.0/4 2.5/4 3.0/4 3.0/4 612.75
02: Houdini 1.03a 28.5/45 1.5/4 ····· 2.0/4 3.0/4 2.5/4 3.5/5 2.5/4 2.5/4 3.5/4 1.5/4 3.0/4 3.0/4 610.50
03: Deep Rybka 4 28.0/45 0.5/4 2.0/4 ····· 1.5/4 3.5/4 2.0/4 2.5/4 3.5/4 3.0/4 3.0/4 3.5/5 3.0/4 572.75
04: Fire 1.31 28.0/45 1.5/4 1.0/4 2.5/4 ····· 2.5/4 2.5/4 2.0/4 3.0/4 2.0/4 3.5/4 2.5/4 5.0/5 564.25
05: IvanHoe 999954 25.5/45 2.5/4 1.5/4 0.5/4 1.5/4 ····· 2.0/4 2.0/4 2.5/4 3.0/4 2.5/5 3.5/4 4.0/4 511.00
06: Deep Rybka 4 w32 Ovyron 25.0/45 1.5/4 1.5/5 2.0/4 1.5/4 2.0/4 ····· 2.0/4 2.0/4 3.5/4 2.0/4 3.0/4 4.0/4 509.00
07: Damir's Rybka Killer 75 22.0/44 1.5/4 1.5/4 1.5/4 2.0/4 2.0/4 2.0/4 ····· 3.0/4 2.0/4 3.5/4 1.5/4 1.5/4 483.00
08: Stockfish 1.8 JA 21.5/44 2.0/4 1.5/4 0.5/4 1.0/4 1.5/4 2.0/4 1.0/4 ····· 2.5/4 2.5/4 3.5/4 3.5/4 430.00
09: Naum 4.2 19.0/44 1.0/4 0.5/4 1.0/4 2.0/4 1.0/4 0.5/4 2.0/4 1.5/4 ····· 3.5/4 3.5/4 2.5/4 376.50
10: Komodo 1.2 16.5/45 1.5/4 2.5/4 1.0/4 0.5/4 2.5/5 2.0/4 0.5/4 1.5/4 0.5/4 ····· 2.0/4 2.0/4 373.50
11: Critter 0.70 14.0/45 1.0/4 1.0/4 1.5/5 1.5/4 0.5/4 1.0/4 2.5/4 0.5/4 0.5/4 2.0/4 ····· 2.0/4 310.00
12: Spark 0.4 11.5/45 1.0/4 1.0/4 1.0/4 0.0/5 0.0/4 0.0/4 2.5/4 0.5/4 1.5/4 2.0/4 2.0/4 ····· 240.25
268 of 660 games played
Name of the tournament: Arena tournament 2
Site/ Country: LIVING-ROOM-COM, United States
Level: Blitz 4/1
Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor LE-1640 with 1,920 MB Memory
Re: Interest?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:13 am
by Uly
Well, I could keep suggesting Rybka settings to try, but that would get boring fast. Please note that there MUST be a TC setting that performs some 30 elo stronger than Rybka 4 Default, finding it is the tricky part.
Are both Rybka 4's on the list w32?
Re: Interest?
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:20 am
by LucenaTheLucid
Yes, every engine is using 128 MB hash, Windows 32 bit, with ponder off.