training mode (Eman) with trouney mode (Raptora)

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Eman's default settings : experience book = false => training mode => try any move in order to learn
Raptora's default settings : experience book = true => tourney mode => follow its experience data, book's moves = save time, play most efficient moves

So any tourney between these engines on their default settings is an UNFAIR tourney or this must be called an ODD match or a training.
Reminder : no result about a training under 500 games/opening can be considered serious.

Now let's see what happens if we train Eman against Raptora_250723.exp as book.

Opening list : Sedat's Unique v50 (50 openings)
Training's conditions : Cutechess GUI, TC 1m+1s, concurrency 1
Hardware : 40 threads, 4096 MB hash, partial syzygy 7-men

Initial Raptora_250723's experience rate :

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d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 e7e6 b1c3 f8b4 f2f3 c7c5 d4d5 d7d6 e2e4 e6d5 c4d5 a7a6                                                                                                                                        : .......13 moves, avg. D29, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 c2c3 h7h6 a2a4 d8c7 b1a3 g7g5                                                                                                                    : .......12 moves, avg. D25, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 a7a6 c3e2 d8b6 d1c1                                                                                                                         : .......24 moves, avg. D24, 002 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 c7c6 f2f4 d7d5 e4e5 g8h6 f1e2 f7f6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3                                                                                                                         : ........1 moves, avg. D52, 006 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c3 b2c3 f6d7 g2g3 d7c5 f3h4                                                                                                                         : ........6 moves, avg. D28, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 g2g4                                                                                                                                                       : .......10 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 f8c5 d4b3 c5e7 e1g1 d8c7 d1g4 g7g6                                                                                                                              : ........5 moves, avg. D30, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 c2c3 h7h6 a2a4 f5g6                                                                                                                              : .......30 moves, avg. D24, 001 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 b8c6 f1c4 e7e6 c1e3 f8e7 d1e2 d8c7                                                                                                                              : .......13 moves, avg. D24, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 d5e4 c3e4 c8d7 g1f3 d7c6 f1d3 b8d7 e1g1 g8f6 e4g3 g7g6                                                                                                                              : .......10 moves, avg. D28, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 c1g5 e7e6 d1d2 a7a6 e1c1 h7h6 d4c6 b7c6 g5f4 d6d5 d2e3                                                                                                     : .......18 moves, avg. D25, 002 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 c2c4 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 f2f3 e7e5 g1e2 c7c6 c1g5 e8g8 d1d2 b8d7 d4d5 h7h6 g5e3 c6d5 c4d5 a7a6                                                                                                : .......17 moves, avg. D25, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 f5g6 a2a4 a7a5 b1a3 g8e7                                                                                                                              : ........7 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 c5c4 b2b4 a5c7 f1e2 b7b5 a4c5 a7a5 a2a3                                                                                 : .......13 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1g5 e7e6 f2f4 d8b6 d4b3 f8e7 d1f3 b8d7 e1c1 b6c7 f1d3                                                                                                     : ........2 moves, avg. D40, 004 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c5 b2b4 c5b6 c1e3 b6e3 f2e3 c6e7 d3d4 e7g6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 a7a5 b4b5 c7c6 h2h3 f8e8 a1c1 c8d7 d1d2 c6b5 c4b5                                         : .......14 moves, avg. D27, 002 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 f2f3 d7d5 c4d5 f6d5 e2e4 d5b6 b1c3 f8g7 c1e3 e8g8 d1d2 b8c6 e1c1                                                                                                                         : ........6 moves, avg. D29, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 e7c8 c2c3 f5g6 f3e1 f8e7 e1d3 h7h6 d3f4 g6h7                                                                                                : .......10 moves, avg. D28, 002 counts/move
g1f3 d7d5 c2c4 d5d4 b2b4 c7c5 c1b2 g8f6 g2g3 a7a5 b4b5 d8c7 d2d3 e7e5 e2e3 c8e6                                                                                                                              : .......25 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1e3 e7e6 f2f3 b7b5 d1d2 b5b4                                                                                                                              : .......37 moves, avg. D24, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c7c5 c2c3 b8c6 g1f3 c8d7 f1e2 g8e7 e1g1 e7g6 f1e1 f8e7 a2a3 e8g8 c1e3 g8h8 b1d2                                                                                                     : .......16 moves, avg. D25, 001 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1g5 b8d7 f1c4 d8b6 c4b3 e7e6 f2f3 f8e7 g5e3 d7c5 g2g4                                                                                                     : .......10 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 b1c3 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 g1f3 e8g8 e2e4 d7d6 f1e2 e7e5 d4d5 a7a5 h2h3 f6h5 g2g3                                                                                                                         : .......18 moves, avg. D27, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 f1c4 f8c5 c2c3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 e1g1 c5b6 c1g5 h7h6 g5h4 g7g5 h4g3 c6e7 b1d2 e7g6                                                                                                          : ........8 moves, avg. D31, 003 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 f1e2 e7e5 d4b3 f8e7 e1g1 e8g8 c1e3 c8e6 d1d3 b8d7 c3d5 e6d5 e4d5 f6e8 a2a4 f7f5 a4a5 a8c8 c2c4 g7g6                                                        : ........7 moves, avg. D28, 002 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c5 b2b4 c5b6 c1e3 b6e3 f2e3 c6e7 d3d4 e7g6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 a7a5 b4b5 c7c6 h2h3 f8e8 a1c1 h7h6 a3a4 c8d7                                              : ........4 moves, avg. D31, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1e2 d7d6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 e2d4 e7e6 f1e2 g8f6 f2f4 b8c6 c1e3 c8d7                                                                                                                              : ........9 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 f2f3 e8g8 c1e3 c7c5 g1e2 b8c6 d4d5 c6e5 e2g3 e7e6 f1e2 e6d5 c4d5 a7a6 a2a4 h7h5 e1g1                                                                                 : .......10 moves, avg. D27, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 f8c5 d4b3 c5e7 e1g1                                                                                                                                             : ........8 moves, avg. D28, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 c5c4 b2b4 a5c7 a2a3                                                                                                     : .......12 moves, avg. D27, 001 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 d2b3 d8c7                                                                                                                              : .......10 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 g1f3 e8g8 f1e2 e7e5 e1g1 b8c6 d4d5 c6e7 f3e1 f6d7 c1e3 f7f5 f2f3 f5f4 e3f2 g6g5                                                                                      : ........2 moves, avg. D38, 003 counts/move
d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 g8f6 c1f4 c7c5 e2e3 b8c6 b1d2 c5d4 e3d4 c8f5 f1b5 a8c8 f3e5 d8b6 b5c6 b7c6 d2b3 h7h5 e1g1 f6e4                                                                                                : .......15 moves, avg. D27, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 g8f6 e1g1 d8c7 d1e2 f8d6 f2f4 d6c5 c2c3 d7d6 g1h1 e6e5 d4b3                                                                                                     : .......12 moves, avg. D27, 002 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 d2d4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 g1f3 e8g8 f1e2 e7e5 e1g1 b8c6 d4d5 c6e7 b2b4 a7a5 b4a5 a8a5 a2a4 a5a8                                                                                                : .......22 moves, avg. D24, 001 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 c2c3 a7a5 f1e1 a5a4 d2f1 f5g6 f3h4 g6h7                                                                                                : ........5 moves, avg. D28, 002 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 c7c6 f2f4 d7d5 e4e5 h7h5 g1f3 g8h6 c1e3 b7b6 h2h3 h6f5 e3f2                                                                                                                         : .......24 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 d7d6 d2d4 g8f6 b1c3 e7e5 g1f3 e5d4 f3d4 f8e7 c1f4 e8g8 d1d2 f8e8 e1c1 b8c6 f2f3 c6d4 d2d4 c8e6                                                                                                          : ........7 moves, avg. D27, 001 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 b1c3 g7g6 e2e4 d7d6 d2d4 f8g7 f1e2 e8g8 c1g5 b8a6 d1d2 c7c6 g1f3 e7e5 a1d1 e5d4 f3d4 a6c5 f2f3 a7a5                                                                                                : .......13 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 d7d6 f1e2 g8f6 c1e3 b7b5 e2f3 e6e5 d4f5 g7g6 f5h6                                                                                                               : .......25 moves, avg. D23, 001 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 d7d6 c1e3 a7a6 d1d2 b7b5 a2a4 b5b4 c3e2 a6a5 e2g3 b8d7                                                                                                                              : .......16 moves, avg. D25, 002 counts/move
g1f3 d7d5 c2c4 d5d4 b2b4 c7c5 c1b2 g8f6 g2g3 a7a5 b4b5 d8c7 f1g2 e7e5 e2e3 c8e6 d2d3                                                                                                                         : .......26 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 c1g5 e7e6 d1d2 a7a6 e1c1 c6d4 d2d4 f8e7 f2f4 b7b5 g5f6 g7f6 c1b1                                                                                           : ........7 moves, avg. D29, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 b7b6 e3d2 c5c4 b2b4 a5a6                                                                                                : .......18 moves, avg. D26, 001 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 c2c3 f5h7 b2b4 a7a5 d2b3 a5a4 b3c5 d7c5 d4c5                                                                                           : .......12 moves, avg. D26, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 b7b5 f1d3 d8b6 d4b3 b6c7 e1g1 g8f6 f2f4 c8b7 e4e5 f6d5 c3e4 f8e7                                                                                                : ........4 moves, avg. D32, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 b8c6 e4e5 a7a6 g1f3 f7f6                                                                                                                                                            : ........2 moves, avg. D37, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1e2 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 d2d4 c5d4 e2d4 a7a6 f2f3 e7e5 d4b3 c8e6 c1e3 b8d7 g2g4 f8e7 d1d2 e8g8 g4g5 f6h5 e1c1 b7b5 c3d5 e6d5 e4d5 f7f6 g5f6 e7f6 b3a5 d8e8 f1h3 h5f4 e3f4 e5f4 h1e1 d7e5 e1e4 g8h8 d2e2 : .......17 moves, avg. D27, 002 counts/move
c2c4 c7c6 e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 d7d6 b1c3 f8g7 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 e8g8 e1g1 e7e5 d4d5 b8a6 c1e3 f6g4 e3g5 f7f6 g5h4                                                                                                     : ........9 moves, avg. D29, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 d7c6 d2d3 f8g7 b1c3 g8f6 h2h3 f6d7 c1e3 b7b6 d1d2 h7h6                                                                                                                    : .......25 moves, avg. D25, 002 counts/move

Experience Rate : 0%


Initial Eman_260723's experience rate :

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d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 e7e6 b1c3 f8b4 f2f3 c7c5 d4d5 d7d6 e2e4 e6d5 c4d5 a7a6                                                                                                                                        : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 c2c3 h7h6 a2a4 d8c7 b1a3 g7g5                                                                                                                    : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 a7a6 c3e2 d8b6 d1c1                                                                                                                         : .......20 moves, avg. D42, 092 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 c7c6 f2f4 d7d5 e4e5 g8h6 f1e2 f7f6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3                                                                                                                         : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c3 b2c3 f6d7 g2g3 d7c5 f3h4                                                                                                                         : ......255 moves, avg. D35, 098 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 g2g4                                                                                                                                                       : ......220 moves, avg. D29, 094 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 f8c5 d4b3 c5e7 e1g1 d8c7 d1g4 g7g6                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 c2c3 h7h6 a2a4 f5g6                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 b8c6 f1c4 e7e6 c1e3 f8e7 d1e2 d8c7                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 d5e4 c3e4 c8d7 g1f3 d7c6 f1d3 b8d7 e1g1 g8f6 e4g3 g7g6                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 c1g5 e7e6 d1d2 a7a6 e1c1 h7h6 d4c6 b7c6 g5f4 d6d5 d2e3                                                                                                     : ....9 154 moves, avg. D34, 095 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 c2c4 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 f2f3 e7e5 g1e2 c7c6 c1g5 e8g8 d1d2 b8d7 d4d5 h7h6 g5e3 c6d5 c4d5 a7a6                                                                                                : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 f5g6 a2a4 a7a5 b1a3 g8e7                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 c5c4 b2b4 a5c7 f1e2 b7b5 a4c5 a7a5 a2a3                                                                                 : .......23 moves, avg. D41, 078 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1g5 e7e6 f2f4 d8b6 d4b3 f8e7 d1f3 b8d7 e1c1 b6c7 f1d3                                                                                                     : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c5 b2b4 c5b6 c1e3 b6e3 f2e3 c6e7 d3d4 e7g6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 a7a5 b4b5 c7c6 h2h3 f8e8 a1c1 c8d7 d1d2 c6b5 c4b5                                         : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 f2f3 d7d5 c4d5 f6d5 e2e4 d5b6 b1c3 f8g7 c1e3 e8g8 d1d2 b8c6 e1c1                                                                                                                         : .......84 moves, avg. D39, 077 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 e7c8 c2c3 f5g6 f3e1 f8e7 e1d3 h7h6 d3f4 g6h7                                                                                                : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
g1f3 d7d5 c2c4 d5d4 b2b4 c7c5 c1b2 g8f6 g2g3 a7a5 b4b5 d8c7 d2d3 e7e5 e2e3 c8e6                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1e3 e7e6 f2f3 b7b5 d1d2 b5b4                                                                                                                              : ........7 moves, avg. D40, 072 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c7c5 c2c3 b8c6 g1f3 c8d7 f1e2 g8e7 e1g1 e7g6 f1e1 f8e7 a2a3 e8g8 c1e3 g8h8 b1d2                                                                                                     : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1g5 b8d7 f1c4 d8b6 c4b3 e7e6 f2f3 f8e7 g5e3 d7c5 g2g4                                                                                                     : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 b1c3 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 g1f3 e8g8 e2e4 d7d6 f1e2 e7e5 d4d5 a7a5 h2h3 f6h5 g2g3                                                                                                                         : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 f1c4 f8c5 c2c3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 e1g1 c5b6 c1g5 h7h6 g5h4 g7g5 h4g3 c6e7 b1d2 e7g6                                                                                                          : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 f1e2 e7e5 d4b3 f8e7 e1g1 e8g8 c1e3 c8e6 d1d3 b8d7 c3d5 e6d5 e4d5 f6e8 a2a4 f7f5 a4a5 a8c8 c2c4 g7g6                                                        : ........3 moves, avg. D29, 096 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c5 b2b4 c5b6 c1e3 b6e3 f2e3 c6e7 d3d4 e7g6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 a7a5 b4b5 c7c6 h2h3 f8e8 a1c1 h7h6 a3a4 c8d7                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1e2 d7d6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 e2d4 e7e6 f1e2 g8f6 f2f4 b8c6 c1e3 c8d7                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 f2f3 e8g8 c1e3 c7c5 g1e2 b8c6 d4d5 c6e5 e2g3 e7e6 f1e2 e6d5 c4d5 a7a6 a2a4 h7h5 e1g1                                                                                 : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 f8c5 d4b3 c5e7 e1g1                                                                                                                                             : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 c5c4 b2b4 a5c7 a2a3                                                                                                     : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 d2b3 d8c7                                                                                                                              : .......18 moves, avg. D34, 091 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 g1f3 e8g8 f1e2 e7e5 e1g1 b8c6 d4d5 c6e7 f3e1 f6d7 c1e3 f7f5 f2f3 f5f4 e3f2 g6g5                                                                                      : ....6 642 moves, avg. D39, 095 counts/move
d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 g8f6 c1f4 c7c5 e2e3 b8c6 b1d2 c5d4 e3d4 c8f5 f1b5 a8c8 f3e5 d8b6 b5c6 b7c6 d2b3 h7h5 e1g1 f6e4                                                                                                : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 g8f6 e1g1 d8c7 d1e2 f8d6 f2f4 d6c5 c2c3 d7d6 g1h1 e6e5 d4b3                                                                                                     : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 d2d4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 g1f3 e8g8 f1e2 e7e5 e1g1 b8c6 d4d5 c6e7 b2b4 a7a5 b4a5 a8a5 a2a4 a5a8                                                                                                : ......102 moves, avg. D31, 091 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 c2c3 a7a5 f1e1 a5a4 d2f1 f5g6 f3h4 g6h7                                                                                                : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 c7c6 f2f4 d7d5 e4e5 h7h5 g1f3 g8h6 c1e3 b7b6 h2h3 h6f5 e3f2                                                                                                                         : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 d7d6 d2d4 g8f6 b1c3 e7e5 g1f3 e5d4 f3d4 f8e7 c1f4 e8g8 d1d2 f8e8 e1c1 b8c6 f2f3 c6d4 d2d4 c8e6                                                                                                          : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 b1c3 g7g6 e2e4 d7d6 d2d4 f8g7 f1e2 e8g8 c1g5 b8a6 d1d2 c7c6 g1f3 e7e5 a1d1 e5d4 f3d4 a6c5 f2f3 a7a5                                                                                                : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 d7d6 f1e2 g8f6 c1e3 b7b5 e2f3 e6e5 d4f5 g7g6 f5h6                                                                                                               : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 d7d6 c1e3 a7a6 d1d2 b7b5 a2a4 b5b4 c3e2 a6a5 e2g3 b8d7                                                                                                                              : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
g1f3 d7d5 c2c4 d5d4 b2b4 c7c5 c1b2 g8f6 g2g3 a7a5 b4b5 d8c7 f1g2 e7e5 e2e3 c8e6 d2d3                                                                                                                         : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 c1g5 e7e6 d1d2 a7a6 e1c1 c6d4 d2d4 f8e7 f2f4 b7b5 g5f6 g7f6 c1b1                                                                                           : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 b7b6 e3d2 c5c4 b2b4 a5a6                                                                                                : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 c2c3 f5h7 b2b4 a7a5 d2b3 a5a4 b3c5 d7c5 d4c5                                                                                           : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 b7b5 f1d3 d8b6 d4b3 b6c7 e1g1 g8f6 f2f4 c8b7 e4e5 f6d5 c3e4 f8e7                                                                                                : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 b8c6 e4e5 a7a6 g1f3 f7f6                                                                                                                                                            : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1e2 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 d2d4 c5d4 e2d4 a7a6 f2f3 e7e5 d4b3 c8e6 c1e3 b8d7 g2g4 f8e7 d1d2 e8g8 g4g5 f6h5 e1c1 b7b5 c3d5 e6d5 e4d5 f7f6 g5f6 e7f6 b3a5 d8e8 f1h3 h5f4 e3f4 e5f4 h1e1 d7e5 e1e4 g8h8 d2e2 : ........4 moves, avg. D51, 106 counts/move
c2c4 c7c6 e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 d7d6 b1c3 f8g7 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 e8g8 e1g1 e7e5 d4d5 b8a6 c1e3 f6g4 e3g5 f7f6 g5h4                                                                                                     : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 d7c6 d2d3 f8g7 b1c3 g8f6 h2h3 f6d7 c1e3 b7b6 d1d2 h7h6                                                                                                                    : ........0 moves, avg. D00, 000 counts/move

Experience Rate : 4%

[deeds]

ROUND 1 (game from 001 to 100) :

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   # PLAYER                              :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Eman_260723.exp (Eman 8.40)         :       4     50    50.5     100  50.5    7   87    6  87.0       0     1
   2 Raptora_250723.exp (RapTora 2.2)    :       0   ----    49.5     100  49.5    6   87    7  87.0       4     1

White advantage = 45.83 +/- 25.15
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00

7-6 for Eman...

[deeds]

ROUND 2 (game from 101 to 200) :

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   # PLAYER                              :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Eman_260723.exp (Eman 8.40)         :      18     50    52.5     100  52.5   10   85    5  85.0       0     1
   2 Raptora_250723.exp (RapTora 2.2)    :       0   ----    47.5     100  47.5    5   85   10  85.0      18     1

White advantage = 53.12 +/- 25.31
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00

10-5 for Eman...

[Anton101]

Without a doubt, we are talking about two different contexts here. Training vs games. Sedat has followed the second path. Which is also correct. The point for Deeds, and I understand, is that he goes through rigorous training. Both are options that each user must choose. I consider that the training is not made for hundreds of users who either do not have the time or the patience or the resources. I am convinced that Sedat has done a good job and no, he is not training any engine, but it is demonstrating short-term results for practical purposes, I am not sure if the EMAN engine has MultiPV turned off in the contest that Sedat has so kindly carried out, Just as a comment, I agree that the concurrency must be equal to 1 and in the case of EMAN multi PV off. For fast tournament effect with fast results and concurrency above one, I prefer learning off. I do my tests and updates with learning turned off for the sole purpose of delivering the most robust engine possible, the use made of the experience file will depend on the end user.

[deeds]

During round 2, Eman has already tested novelties around the 27th move from each opening :



Let's imagine after 500, 1000 or 2000 rounds...

[deeds]

After 2 rounds, Eman_270723's experience rate :

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d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 e7e6 b1c3 f8b4 f2f3 c7c5 d4d5 d7d6 e2e4 e6d5 c4d5 a7a6                                                                                                                                        : ........2 moves, avg. D44, 003 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 c2c3 h7h6 a2a4 d8c7 b1a3 g7g5                                                                                                                    : ........4 moves, avg. D30, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 a7a6 c3e2 d8b6 d1c1                                                                                                                         : ......146 moves, avg. D42, 086 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 c7c6 f2f4 d7d5 e4e5 g8h6 f1e2 f7f6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3                                                                                                                         : ......108 moves, avg. D27, 001 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c3 b2c3 f6d7 g2g3 d7c5 f3h4                                                                                                                         : ......260 moves, avg. D35, 096 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 g2g4                                                                                                                                                       : ......226 moves, avg. D29, 093 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 f8c5 d4b3 c5e7 e1g1 d8c7 d1g4 g7g6                                                                                                                              : ........3 moves, avg. D34, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 c2c3 h7h6 a2a4 f5g6                                                                                                                              : .......15 moves, avg. D27, 001 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 b8c6 f1c4 e7e6 c1e3 f8e7 d1e2 d8c7                                                                                                                              : ...36 423 moves, avg. D26, 085 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 d5e4 c3e4 c8d7 g1f3 d7c6 f1d3 b8d7 e1g1 g8f6 e4g3 g7g6                                                                                                                              : .......16 moves, avg. D28, 001 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 c1g5 e7e6 d1d2 a7a6 e1c1 h7h6 d4c6 b7c6 g5f4 d6d5 d2e3                                                                                                     : ....9 169 moves, avg. D34, 095 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 c2c4 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 f2f3 e7e5 g1e2 c7c6 c1g5 e8g8 d1d2 b8d7 d4d5 h7h6 g5e3 c6d5 c4d5 a7a6                                                                                                : ........5 moves, avg. D32, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 f5g6 a2a4 a7a5 b1a3 g8e7                                                                                                                              : .......19 moves, avg. D30, 001 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 c5c4 b2b4 a5c7 f1e2 b7b5 a4c5 a7a5 a2a3                                                                                 : .......23 moves, avg. D41, 078 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1g5 e7e6 f2f4 d8b6 d4b3 f8e7 d1f3 b8d7 e1c1 b6c7 f1d3                                                                                                     : ........1 moves, avg. D53, 003 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c5 b2b4 c5b6 c1e3 b6e3 f2e3 c6e7 d3d4 e7g6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 a7a5 b4b5 c7c6 h2h3 f8e8 a1c1 c8d7 d1d2 c6b5 c4b5                                         : ........9 moves, avg. D30, 002 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 f2f3 d7d5 c4d5 f6d5 e2e4 d5b6 b1c3 f8g7 c1e3 e8g8 d1d2 b8c6 e1c1                                                                                                                         : .......86 moves, avg. D39, 075 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 e7c8 c2c3 f5g6 f3e1 f8e7 e1d3 h7h6 d3f4 g6h7                                                                                                : ........8 moves, avg. D31, 002 counts/move
g1f3 d7d5 c2c4 d5d4 b2b4 c7c5 c1b2 g8f6 g2g3 a7a5 b4b5 d8c7 d2d3 e7e5 e2e3 c8e6                                                                                                                              : ........8 moves, avg. D28, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1e3 e7e6 f2f3 b7b5 d1d2 b5b4                                                                                                                              : .......21 moves, avg. D30, 025 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c7c5 c2c3 b8c6 g1f3 c8d7 f1e2 g8e7 e1g1 e7g6 f1e1 f8e7 a2a3 e8g8 c1e3 g8h8 b1d2                                                                                                     : ........2 moves, avg. D41, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 c1g5 b8d7 f1c4 d8b6 c4b3 e7e6 f2f3 f8e7 g5e3 d7c5 g2g4                                                                                                     : ........2 moves, avg. D39, 002 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 b1c3 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 g1f3 e8g8 e2e4 d7d6 f1e2 e7e5 d4d5 a7a5 h2h3 f6h5 g2g3                                                                                                                         : .......16 moves, avg. D28, 001 counts/move
e2e4 e7e5 g1f3 b8c6 f1c4 f8c5 c2c3 g8f6 d2d3 d7d6 e1g1 c5b6 c1g5 h7h6 g5h4 g7g5 h4g3 c6e7 b1d2 e7g6                                                                                                          : ........3 moves, avg. D37, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 d7d6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 a7a6 f1e2 e7e5 d4b3 f8e7 e1g1 e8g8 c1e3 c8e6 d1d3 b8d7 c3d5 e6d5 e4d5 f6e8 a2a4 f7f5 a4a5 a8c8 c2c4 g7g6                                                        : ........4 moves, avg. D28, 072 counts/move
c2c4 e7e5 b1c3 g8f6 g1f3 b8c6 e2e4 f8b4 d2d3 d7d6 a2a3 b4c5 b2b4 c5b6 c1e3 b6e3 f2e3 c6e7 d3d4 e7g6 f1d3 e8g8 e1g1 a7a5 b4b5 c7c6 h2h3 f8e8 a1c1 h7h6 a3a4 c8d7                                              : ........4 moves, avg. D30, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1e2 d7d6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 e2d4 e7e6 f1e2 g8f6 f2f4 b8c6 c1e3 c8d7                                                                                                                              : ........3 moves, avg. D33, 002 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 f2f3 e8g8 c1e3 c7c5 g1e2 b8c6 d4d5 c6e5 e2g3 e7e6 f1e2 e6d5 c4d5 a7a6 a2a4 h7h5 e1g1                                                                                 : .......16 moves, avg. D28, 069 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 f8c5 d4b3 c5e7 e1g1                                                                                                                                             : .......14 moves, avg. D28, 001 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 c5c4 b2b4 a5c7 a2a3                                                                                                     : ........1 moves, avg. D53, 003 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 d2b3 d8c7                                                                                                                              : .......19 moves, avg. D34, 086 counts/move
d2d4 g8f6 c2c4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 g1f3 e8g8 f1e2 e7e5 e1g1 b8c6 d4d5 c6e7 f3e1 f6d7 c1e3 f7f5 f2f3 f5f4 e3f2 g6g5                                                                                      : ....6 644 moves, avg. D39, 095 counts/move
d2d4 d7d5 g1f3 g8f6 c1f4 c7c5 e2e3 b8c6 b1d2 c5d4 e3d4 c8f5 f1b5 a8c8 f3e5 d8b6 b5c6 b7c6 d2b3 h7h5 e1g1 f6e4                                                                                                : ........3 moves, avg. D34, 003 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 a7a6 f1d3 g8f6 e1g1 d8c7 d1e2 f8d6 f2f4 d6c5 c2c3 d7d6 g1h1 e6e5 d4b3                                                                                                     : ........6 moves, avg. D30, 002 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 d2d4 g7g6 b1c3 f8g7 e2e4 d7d6 g1f3 e8g8 f1e2 e7e5 e1g1 b8c6 d4d5 c6e7 b2b4 a7a5 b4a5 a8a5 a2a4 a5a8                                                                                                : ......104 moves, avg. D31, 090 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 c2c3 a7a5 f1e1 a5a4 d2f1 f5g6 f3h4 g6h7                                                                                                : ........3 moves, avg. D36, 002 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 c7c6 f2f4 d7d5 e4e5 h7h5 g1f3 g8h6 c1e3 b7b6 h2h3 h6f5 e3f2                                                                                                                         : ........5 moves, avg. D33, 002 counts/move
e2e4 d7d6 d2d4 g8f6 b1c3 e7e5 g1f3 e5d4 f3d4 f8e7 c1f4 e8g8 d1d2 f8e8 e1c1 b8c6 f2f3 c6d4 d2d4 c8e6                                                                                                          : ........1 moves, avg. D66, 121 counts/move
c2c4 g8f6 b1c3 g7g6 e2e4 d7d6 d2d4 f8g7 f1e2 e8g8 c1g5 b8a6 d1d2 c7c6 g1f3 e7e5 a1d1 e5d4 f3d4 a6c5 f2f3 a7a5                                                                                                : ........1 moves, avg. D52, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 d7d6 f1e2 g8f6 c1e3 b7b5 e2f3 e6e5 d4f5 g7g6 f5h6                                                                                                               : ........1 moves, avg. D50, 004 counts/move
e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 f8g7 b1c3 d7d6 c1e3 a7a6 d1d2 b7b5 a2a4 b5b4 c3e2 a6a5 e2g3 b8d7                                                                                                                              : ........4 moves, avg. D32, 002 counts/move
g1f3 d7d5 c2c4 d5d4 b2b4 c7c5 c1b2 g8f6 g2g3 a7a5 b4b5 d8c7 f1g2 e7e5 e2e3 c8e6 d2d3                                                                                                                         : ........4 moves, avg. D31, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 g8f6 b1c3 d7d6 c1g5 e7e6 d1d2 a7a6 e1c1 c6d4 d2d4 f8e7 f2f4 b7b5 g5f6 g7f6 c1b1                                                                                           : ........3 moves, avg. D32, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 g8f6 e4e5 f6d7 f2f4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 c1e3 d8b6 c3a4 b6a5 c2c3 b7b6 e3d2 c5c4 b2b4 a5a6                                                                                                : .......19 moves, avg. D28, 020 counts/move
e2e4 c7c6 d2d4 d7d5 e4e5 c8f5 g1f3 e7e6 f1e2 b8d7 e1g1 g8e7 b1d2 h7h6 c2c3 f5h7 b2b4 a7a5 d2b3 a5a4 b3c5 d7c5 d4c5                                                                                           : ........2 moves, avg. D40, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 e7e6 b1c3 a7a6 d2d4 c5d4 f3d4 b7b5 f1d3 d8b6 d4b3 b6c7 e1g1 g8f6 f2f4 c8b7 e4e5 f6d5 c3e4 f8e7                                                                                                : ........2 moves, avg. D41, 002 counts/move
e2e4 e7e6 d2d4 d7d5 b1c3 b8c6 e4e5 a7a6 g1f3 f7f6                                                                                                                                                            : ........2 moves, avg. D40, 003 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1e2 d7d6 b1c3 g8f6 d2d4 c5d4 e2d4 a7a6 f2f3 e7e5 d4b3 c8e6 c1e3 b8d7 g2g4 f8e7 d1d2 e8g8 g4g5 f6h5 e1c1 b7b5 c3d5 e6d5 e4d5 f7f6 g5f6 e7f6 b3a5 d8e8 f1h3 h5f4 e3f4 e5f4 h1e1 d7e5 e1e4 g8h8 d2e2 : ........4 moves, avg. D51, 106 counts/move
c2c4 c7c6 e2e4 g7g6 d2d4 d7d6 b1c3 f8g7 g1f3 g8f6 f1e2 e8g8 e1g1 e7e5 d4d5 b8a6 c1e3 f6g4 e3g5 f7f6 g5h4                                                                                                     : ........8 moves, avg. D32, 002 counts/move
e2e4 c7c5 g1f3 b8c6 f1b5 g7g6 b5c6 d7c6 d2d3 f8g7 b1c3 g8f6 h2h3 f6d7 c1e3 b7b6 d1d2 h7h6                                                                                                                    : ........4 moves, avg. D35, 002 counts/move

Experience Rate : 6%

[Anton101]

Powerful training examples, now let's imagine training both engines. On the other hand, you have the RapTora src, so without a doubt you will be able to modify exp.cpp and exp.h to v3 or v3.1, it would be very interesting how RapTora develops, unfortunately since there is no EMAN src, there is no possibility of doing the same with its exp.cpp and if, in addition, you return the src with the modification made, I think that some users may be even more interested in their research.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Eman's default settings : experience book = false => training mode => try any move in order to learn
Raptora's default settings : experience book = true => tourney mode => follow its experience data, book's moves = save time, play most efficient moves

Well, let Me say please my 2 cents:

1st of all,
Deeds is missed to share his games so
No Games = No Trust

Anyhow, let's assume is all right in Deeds test..
Then Congratulations...! undefeated Champ!
But as usual, on Deeds hardware..!

But this is also true that and Reality is Reality:
Current Deeds testings are not same as mine..!!

E.g one of main differences (in conditions) are:
-I used totally different hardware than Deeds
-I used 1 thread, 128 MB hash, 4-Men sysygy etc.
Where Deeds: 40 threads, 4096 Mb hash, 7-Men sysygy
-I played GUI's concurrent games: 8 and some: 10
Btw, that means: RapTora 2.2 is not bad via concurrent...
-I used Eman 8.91 vers, where Deeds: Eman 8.40 vers
-My RapTora 2.2 is resumed to play via learned Eman.exp
Where in Deeds test, both are started via non-learned exp
Etc. and etc..

And once more (for anyone missed),
As usual, I test all engines and books via Authors
Suggested settings, that means mainly default..!

Btw, what is same, e.g according to Deeds vs mine:
1m+1s, Raptora 2.2 and Unique v50 opening suite
But all other settings are totally different...
And if I am wrong..correct Me please...

Btw, after so many differences in our test conditions,
Sure to expect same results, will be simply madness!!

Forget everything,
Even if we replay/re-run via same test cond., next time
To expect identical, same results, will be madness again!
Actually if we run at least 1000 and more games (per player)
Then there is more possibility to be more close in points..

And Meanwhile,
What is more strange... e.g the new generation:
Forget to mention about Ponder ON or OFF, plus
Love to say their testings are as LearningFarm,
Training mode etc and etc.

Meanwhile, after Googling about 'LearningFarm':
The Learning Farm will be a place where children and
their families can immerse themselves in the study
of living things, agriculture, and food, as well...
In other words, what a joke .. LOL..

So it is clear 100% that the word 'LearningFarm'
There is nothing connected with Computer Chess !)

So against any confusions, misunderstandings...
Because all we are here to talk about chess...
I suggest to the new generation, 1st share games!
Give more details about your test conditions such as
Parallel matches or not, Ponder ON or OFF etc.

Because as I stated before,
Not all of us are so so so clever... or
Not all are Nostradamus, Baba Vanga... ))

Hope helps..

[Sedat Canbaz]

Powerful training examples, now let's imagine training both engines. On the other hand, you have the RapTora src, so without a doubt you will be able to modify exp.cpp and exp.h to v3 or v3.1, it would be very interesting how RapTora develops, unfortunately since there is no EMAN src, there is no possibility of doing the same with its exp.cpp and if, in addition, you return the src with the modification made, I think that some users may be even more interested in their research.

A very good point !

Best,
Sedat

[deeds]

ROUND 3 (games from 201 to 300) :

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   # PLAYER                              :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)    W    D    L  D(%)  OppAvg  OppN
   1 Eman_260723.exp (Eman 8.40)         :      36     50    55.0     100  55.0   12   86    2  86.0       0     1
   2 Raptora_250723.exp (RapTora 2.2)    :       0   ----    45.0     100  45.0    2   86   12  86.0      36     1

White advantage = 35.52 +/- 25.01
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 50.00 % +/- 0.00

12-2 for Eman...