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Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:16 pm
by IWB
at http://www.inwoba.de

Will the new Houdini top the old one?

Have fun
Ingo

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:22 am
by IWB
Hi,

This morning I discovered that I forgot to include the Gaviota Tablebases. Even if I only use the 4pc version the current run is not according to my normal standard. As it is interesting to see if there is any difference I will finish this run and start it imediately again WITH 4pc GTB. The latter will be included in my list.

As a side effect we have a nice test about the influence of Tbs! :-)

Sorry for the inconvinience
Ingo

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:28 am
by Jeremy Bernstein
IWB wrote:Hi,

This morning I discovered that I forgot to include the Gaviota Tablebases. Even if I only use the 4pc version the current run is not according to my normal standard. As it is interesting to see if there is any difference I will finish this run and start it imediately again WITH 4pc GTB. The latter will be included in my list.

As a side effect we have a nice test about the influence of Tbs! :-)

Sorry for the inconvinience
Ingo
Did you tune Houdini to your system (autotune), or are you using the default settings?

Jeremy

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:44 am
by IWB
Jeremy Bernstein wrote:
Did you tune Houdini to your system (autotune), or are you using the default settings?

Jeremy
Default, no settings!
But as I am running on one core and autotune is used for split depth which helps for more cores it doesnt matter.

Nonetheless, the default is 10, the best setting would be 12, but the difference between both is 2% in speed (when using 6 cores). Hard to prove that difference in Elo!

BYe
Ingo

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:26 pm
by IWB
The final result was:


[tt]Houdini 2.0 Pro

Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Komodo64 3 SSE42 (2967) 60.5 - 39.5 60.50% Perf=3041
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Deep Rybka 4.1 SSE42 (2955) 59.0 - 41.0 59.00% Perf=3018
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Critter 1.2 (2954) 57.0 - 43.0 57.00% Perf=3002
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Stockfish 2.1.1 JA (2943) 61.5 - 38.5 61.50% Perf=3024
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Naum 4.2 (2826) 78.0 - 22.0 78.00% Perf=3045
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Deep Shredder 12 (2800) 75.5 - 24.5 75.50% Perf=2995
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Gull 1.2 (2797) 82.0 - 18.0 82.00% Perf=3060
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Deep Sjeng c't 2010 32b (2787) 79.5 - 20.5 79.50% Perf=3022
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Spike 1.4 32b (2783) 82.5 - 17.5 82.50% Perf=3052
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Protector 1.4.0 (2760) 88.5 - 11.5 88.50% Perf=3114
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Hannibal 1.1 (2758) 87.5 - 12.5 87.50% Perf=3096
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - spark-1.0 SSE42 (2758) 83.5 - 16.5 83.50% Perf=3039
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - HIARCS 13.2 MP 32b (2752) 84.0 - 16.0 84.00% Perf=3040
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Deep Junior 12.5 (2730) 79.5 - 20.5 79.50% Perf=2965
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Zappa Mexico II (2716) 85.5 - 14.5 85.50% Perf=3024
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Deep Onno 1-2-70 (2686) 88.5 - 11.5 88.50% Perf=3040
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Strelka 2.0 B (2674) 90.0 - 10.0 90.00% Perf=3055
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Umko 1.2 SSE42 (2666) 89.0 - 11.0 89.00% Perf=3029
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Loop 13.6/2007 (2620) 94.0 - 6.0 94.00% Perf=3097
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Jonny 4.00 32b (2616) 93.5 - 6.5 93.50% Perf=3079
Houdini 2.0 Pro x64 - Crafty 23.3 JA (2598) 95.0 - 5.0 95.00% Perf=3109
1694.0 - 406.0 80.67% Perf=3016


2100 out of 2100 games played[/tt]

Which would be official 3016 Elo with Bayeselo in the IPON as well!

The new test with GTB is running!

Bye
Ingo

PS: Have a look here: http://forum.computerschach.de/cgi-bin/ ... ?pid=41321
Thats how I expected it to look like!

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:51 pm
by IWB
Hi,

Just one more remark: Today is the most successfull day since my website exists - and there are more than 3 hours to go.

Thank you for that!

Bye
Ingo

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:24 am
by IWB
Finaly finished: http://www.inwoba.de

The "official initial" result is online now!

In the download I added a "game.pgn" with the results (and only results!) of all the games of the IPON in case someone want to do some own statistical tricks.

Bye
Ingo

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:14 am
by kingliveson
lmao, he is serious when he says, "and only results!" :lol:
[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Deep Junior 12.5"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Naum 4.2"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "0-1"]
0-1

[White "Critter 1.2"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Deep Sjeng c't 2010 32b"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Strelka 2.0 B"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "0-1"]
0-1

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Deep Shredder 12"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Hannibal 1.1"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "0-1"]
0-1

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Stockfish 2.1.1 JA"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1/2-1/2

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Deep Onno 1-2-70"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Loop 13.6/2007"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "0-1"]
0-1

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Jonny 4.00 32b"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Zappa Mexico II"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1/2-1/2

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Umko 1.2 SSE42"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Crafty 23.3 JA"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "0-1"]
0-1

[White "HIARCS 13.2 MP 32b"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1/2-1/2

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Umko 1.2 SSE42"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0

[White "Loop 13.6/2007"]
[Black "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Result "0-1"]
0-1

[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Deep Sjeng c't 2010 32b"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0
What's the point without the games...Ok! I take your word for it. :roll:

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:26 pm
by IWB
kingliveson wrote:lmao, he is serious when he says, "and only results!" :lol:
[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Deep Sjeng c't 2010 32b"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0
What's the point without the games...Ok! I take your word for it. :roll:
Easy! It was a request at Talkchess. You can put this into any statistic program to get your own results, you can eliminate engines, e.g. delete all weaker ones to see if an engine performes better vs better or weaker opponents ... a lot of things are possible. All one person needs is some imagination.

Btw: It is an output of Bayeselo.

Bye
Ingo

Re: Houdini 2.0 running for the IPON

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:49 pm
by kingliveson
IWB wrote:
kingliveson wrote:lmao, he is serious when he says, "and only results!" :lol:
[White "Houdini 2.0 STD"]
[Black "Deep Sjeng c't 2010 32b"]
[Result "1-0"]
1-0
What's the point without the games...Ok! I take your word for it. :roll:
Easy! It was a request at Talkchess. You can put this into any statistic program to get your own results, you can eliminate engines, e.g. delete all weaker ones to see if an engine performes better vs better or weaker opponents ... a lot of things are possible. All one person needs is some imagination.

Btw: It is an output of Bayeselo.

Bye
Ingo
Ingo, please, do not take it personal. Your integrity is not in question, but rather that it is a bit peculiar for a ratings list not to publish or want to publish the games when requested. Is it that you are afraid people might make books out of the collection? I don't use playchess myself, nevertheless, so what if people want to utilize your games for such purpose...

And by the way, what you published as results (which snippets I pasted), can easily be generated without ever playing a single game. I can produce you a script that does exactly that.

Franklin