SedatChess

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:12 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2023 6:49 pm
Spectral 5.0 has three VLTC patches, it is possible that it will fall in the rating, anyway the performance is very positive.
Thanks for the detailed info..but it is clear that Spectral is so strong..

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:13 pm

Super League's Update 3:

Note also that, very likely this is last LIVE update for today..
And tomorrow I hope to publish the completed tour results..

And here is latest LIVE standings after 1908 games,
As we see Stockfish leads.. Spectral 2nd.. Tactical 3rd...

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Stockfish 240823               23      17     344   53.3%   78.2% 
   2 SpecTral 5.0                   19      17     345   52.8%   79.4% 
   3 Tactical 220823                 8      18     349   51.1%   74.8% 
   4 Raid v2.73                      7      16     349   51.0%   80.8% 
   5 Stockfish 220823 sl             6      17     350   50.9%   77.1% 
   6 SF-Poly 220723                 -1      15     344   49.9%   82.3% 
   7 Corchess 240823                -4      17     346   49.4%   77.5% 
   8 Eman 9.40                      -8      17     348   48.9%   77.0% 
   9 Cool-Iris 11.10               -11      17     347   48.4%   79.5% 
  10 Brainlearn 25.2               -13      20     346   48.1%   70.8% 
  11 ShashChess 33.2               -26      19     348   46.3%   73.0% 

1908 of 2750 games finished.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:27 pm

One thing more...

A question to Experts:

To be more clear, In Super League:
All current learning engines are playing with learned exp files,
I mean with ones, which are generated from 2ND LEAGUE tour..

I wonder much, what about ?
If we will run again with same conditions, exc. in next as without exp
Can we expect any influence over the next new results...?

Because in 2ND League: exp files are generated/based on 1min+0.5sec
Where now in Super League tour, the time control is used: 3min+1sec

In other words,
These same Bullet exp files are playing any negative role that we test now as BLITZ ?
Note: I picked same Unique openings, which used to play in 2nd League Bullet tour

Who knows ?)

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:34 pm

No, there will be no influence, because you are playing multiple openings without continuous repetition, so the experience file will not make a difference.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:39 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:34 pm
No, there will be no influence, because you are playing multiple openings without continuous repetition, so the experience file will not make a difference.
Thank you for useful comments..

But just in case of test such as CTG books,
Bullet vs Blitz played influence.. sure I'm meaning in the past.. (as NON-NNUE)

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:41 pm

At this moment I am training SpecTral using Dark SisTer which are the most updated engines, I also use pgn's for training with openings where I have noticed weakness in the engines (Take into account that I use an iCore3)...In those openings where I have noticed weakness, the engines are playing 250 games at the moment. Remember that "Best move exp file" must be unchecked.

Always concurrent game in 1.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:46 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:41 pm
At this moment I am training SpecTral using Dark SisTer which are the most updated engines, I also use pgn's for training with openings where I have noticed weakness in the engines (Take into account that I use an iCore3)...In those openings where I have noticed weakness, the engines are playing 250 games at the moment. Remember that "Best move exp file" must be unchecked.

Always concurrent game in 1.
Thanks )

Btw, I have good news, for the moment:
Spectral 5 is managed to take the lead... nice!

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:09 pm

Really surprised, the VLTC patches were not supposed to give that result, but if SpecTral gets a positive ranking in the end, I will be able to implement it on TACTICAL and Cool Iris.

Adding the new net of course.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:23 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:09 pm
Really surprised, the VLTC patches were not supposed to give that result, but if SpecTral gets a positive ranking in the end, I will be able to implement it on TACTICAL and Cool Iris.

Adding the new net of course.
Sure no any idea about VLTC patches ...you are master..

But as T.D, Spectral 5 is just as BEAST... again and again..
You are shocked Me... and still your engine leads ..!!!

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:30 pm

Many thanks...Let's wait until finish the tour.

VLTC=Very Long Time Control.

Best regards.

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