SedatChess

As in chess tournaments and matches...
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:11 pm

Hi!

The NNUE network is different (RapTora 2.2 uses an older network compared to the latest SF 16 development), RapTora 2.2 contains documents that were removed by removing the classic evaluation in SF 16 in these latest developments.

With that we already have an approx 30% difference.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:25 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:11 pm
Hi!

The NNUE network is different (RapTora 2.2 uses an older network compared to the latest SF 16 development), RapTora 2.2 contains documents that were removed by removing the classic evaluation in SF 16 in these latest developments.

With that we already have an approx 30% difference.

Best regards.
Hello,

Thanks a lot for your valuable comments...

Btw, just out of curiosity,
I tested Stockfish 27.02.2023, which is very close in date to RapTora 2.2,
Plus both mentioned engines use exactly same nn-52471d67216a.nnue
Where both engines show some close similarities as 68%, but I can't say
As very very close to each other...as we know some show over 75%-80%-90%+

And here are the mentioned new results, which still not officially published:
417. Engine RapTora 2.2-AC and Stockfish 270223 show a similarity of 68.14%

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:35 pm

Excuse me, I forgot to mention the "Tactical" code, as well as the polyglot docs (book reading) and the experience doc).

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:37 pm

By the way I have a doubt in your great tour DON vs Hcan.

That Don book is free download?

Or private?

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:43 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:35 pm
Excuse me, I forgot to mention the "Tactical" code, as well as the polyglot docs (book reading) and the experience doc).
Thanks again )

Sure as I tester,
I was wondering...who knows?) maybe it 's time to create by myself a engine ?!
Just in case....can you be my teacher? and I hope you will agree ?)
Because in my chess life...I have so much experience...exc. eng programming )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:46 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:37 pm
By the way I have a doubt in your great tour DON vs Hcan.

That Don book is free download?

Or private?
As far as I am aware,
My used DON is a private book unfortunately...

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:54 pm

I appreciate your words, but I still don't feel capable, without a doubt MZ is the best teacher. On the other hand, it's complicated for me because of the time difference, in Turkey it's 8 more hours... Right now I'm in my office and I have free time, half an hour and at 3:00 pm I go home for my wife and the "mupetts" "(The two puig dogs) and we go to the beach house. Generally, friends arrive at 6pm and we forget about social networks until Saturday. I think it's complicated by our schedules and I certainly think you're going to want to customize the engine and that may take time. For example, I suggest Mr. Zerbinati for schedules and knowledge. But that is involving a third person and I don't want this to become a conflict.

P.D ok (talking about Don book).

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:25 pm

Anton101 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:54 pm
I appreciate your words, but I still don't feel capable, without a doubt MZ is the best teacher. On the other hand, it's complicated for me because of the time difference, in Turkey it's 8 more hours... Right now I'm in my office and I have free time, half an hour and at 3:00 pm I go home for my wife and the "mupetts" "(The two puig dogs) and we go to the beach house. Generally, friends arrive at 6pm and we forget about social networks until Saturday. I think it's complicated by our schedules and I certainly think you're going to want to customize the engine and that may take time. For example, I suggest Mr. Zerbinati for schedules and knowledge. But that is involving a third person and I don't want this to become a conflict.

P.D ok (talking about Don book).
Thanks for the detailed info...

But for right now I'll continue as before..
Frankly, eng programming is not my job..!
I was simply joking... ) excuse Me.. )

On other hand, as far as I noticed you are
Tolerant, helpful, well-intentioned and most important as friendly man!

And in my opinion (with all these skills):
You can increase the quality, strength of your engines and no doubt that
Sooner or later you will be in good condition for better eng master!
Actually you are as master... at least in my eyes!

if you ask Me about who are as best masters (in engine programming)?
I say one of best are Stockfish developers (including you), plus as best
Authors of Lc0, Cfish, Rybka, Komodo, Houdini, Zappa, Fruit, Crafty,
Fritz, Chess Tiger, Hiarcs, TheKing, Rebel, Arasan Chess Genius, etc.!
But unfortunately not all of them active nowadays! but there is one true
They were/are best of the best...!!

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:46 pm

Btw, just I'd like to add,
If X SF-based engine performs close (in strength) to SF dev.
Then frankly, I do not pay too much attention...!!

And what a pity that, according to my older testings...
CTG buggy book code still remains..still not fixed...
Not sure about the latest releases..but I noticed it..

I mean...if X engine contain same CTG bug code...as usual,
All contains same bugs...strange... sure I am referring
For latest SF based chess engines of 3750 Elo..and I wonder
Who will be this 'hero' who will fix it ?).. thanks in advance

Greetings
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Anton101 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:47 pm

There is a good course at the Universidad de la Libertad, the owner is one of the richest men (#3) in my country and the course is in programming.

This University will only focus on science, technology and finance. I have already enrolled and will start my 6-semester course starting in 2024. I hope that by the middle of 2024 I'll feel on a better footing to start suggesting fresh ideas to the amazing SF developers. I'm still learning from the best.

Thank you very much for your words.

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