SedatChess
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Re: SedatChess
@ ZamChess + Supermova
Not at all, it is my pleasure...
Not at all, it is my pleasure...
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Hello there )
New Strength Test of 2700+ Elo!
Well, the target to see, which are close to Fruit 2.1
2700 Elo points..In other words, in future book tours:
I may use some of the current chess engines..yes, they
May weaker..but fun is one of most important, right ?)
If nothing else, here the engines are not so Drawish!
Btw, if you ask: why Fruit main engine? not any other one?
Well, Fruit is one of the best, stable.. and if I'm not wrong,
As 1st ever engine that started to support native BIN books!
Is this all? not of course, mother of many engines (in past)!
Actually 'Fruit' perfectly suits/fully deserves its name..!!
Meanwhile, due to no much free time for all:
I did not test all engines with or without own books, but
Some new data is already available.. in short, now you may
Check e.g Junior 10.1 and Gogobello 1.3 or any other's points,
Where with own books or with Unique book, and you will see
Theirs strength are much different..and just do not ask why ?!)
Because before... I already explained many times about over...
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Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws
1 Bobcat v3.25 2767 21 21 700 57% 2718 32%
2 Tcheran 5.0 2757 23 23 600 56% 2715 27%
3 Junior 10.1 2754 17 17 1095 55% 2717 25%
4 CT800 v1.45 2753 16 16 1244 54% 2722 25%
5 Laser 1.0 2746 18 18 976 54% 2722 30%
6 Octochess r4741 2740 15 15 1380 53% 2721 32%
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Here are ones, which are very close to Fruit 2.1's Strength:
7 Polaris 1.5.0 2732 17 17 1159 51% 2724 25%
8 Amoeba 1.3 2731 16 16 1261 51% 2724 28%
9 Ethereal 8.19 2730 14 14 1687 51% 2724 27%
10 Pawny 1.1 2727 14 14 1675 50% 2725 27%
11 Fruit 2.1 2725 14 14 1655 51% 2721 30%
12 Pedone 0.5 2725 15 15 1419 50% 2723 22%
13 Spike 1.1 wb 2723 14 14 1614 50% 2721 28%
14 Bobcat 2.75 2716 14 14 1545 49% 2720 31%
15 Rodent 1.0 2716 15 14 1514 49% 2721 31%
16 Crafty 23 2715 14 14 1616 49% 2722 26%
17 ProDeo 1.83c 2712 14 14 1615 49% 2722 25%
18 Zevra 2.5 2712 16 16 1239 49% 2720 24%
19 Alaric 7.07 uci 2711 14 15 1567 49% 2719 26%
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20 Blunde 8.5.5 2702 23 23 591 47% 2726 29%
21 Supernova 2.4 2701 21 22 672 47% 2720 30%
22 Alaric 7.07 wb 2698 20 20 800 46% 2726 26%
23 Glaurung 1.2.1 2695 18 18 980 46% 2720 23%
24 Alfil 8.1.1opt 2683 25 25 524 45% 2718 22%
25 Weiss 0.9 2682 20 20 810 44% 2728 21%
26 Gogobello 1.3 2676 19 19 926 44% 2718 24%
https://mega.nz/file/DhQWDARC#jKLkOK-Hn ... ZppAHTZin4
And as final words, we are in 2025, but unfortunately,
Almost all of engines released as without book support..
Strange really..but no BIG problem..in SCCT, there are
Always solutions...that fixes mostly of the problems !)
And not since today or yesterday...since many years!
Anyhow let's hope to see better chess engines in 2025!
Greetings
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Breaking News - 26.02.2025:
The current own books competition ended congrats and many thanks to all!
Note: Crafty 23 is re-tested with a different own book..and performed better.
E.g in recent unofficial:Results, Crafty is played with other but weaker book..
And once more, all participated engines are close to GMs 2700+ Elo, used
To play with theirs own opening books, where Bobcat is performed as best!
About Fruit, Franchesca,Rodent etc it seems theirs books are not so strong..
However, it's not a World CS, just a FUN tour...enjoy with latest new results..
Meanwhile, please stay tuned: a new Online-Like Book CS coming.. at least
I can say for now: a such exciting tournament for 1st time will be organized..
2700+ Eng and Own Book Champion: Bobcat - Congrats to Gunnar Harms!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-70
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/G0gGlJJQ#kBjMgTu2l ... UpLOOTxcds
Have fun )
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Thank you very much Sedat. Your tour and the champion name remembered me matches between two old competitors. Texel and bobcat. They were good competitors for each other. I remembered those good days.
Best regards
Best regards
Re: SedatChess
Special congratulations to Sedat for hosting such a fun and competitive event. It was a time when chess engines were still in their infancy, and developers were working tirelessly to improve their creations. This tournament is a celebration of those efforts, bringing together some of the most iconic engines of the past.Sedat Canbaz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:47 am
Breaking News - 26.02.2025:
The current own books competition ended congrats and many thanks to all!
Note: Crafty 23 is re-tested with a different own book..and performed better.
E.g in recent unofficial:Results, Crafty is played with other but weaker book..
And once more, all participated engines are close to GMs 2700+ Elo, used
To play with theirs own opening books, where Bobcat is performed as best!
About Fruit, Franchesca,Rodent etc it seems theirs books are not so strong..
However, it's not a World CS, just a FUN tour...enjoy with latest new results..
Meanwhile, please stay tuned: a new Online-Like Book CS coming.. at least
I can say for now: a such exciting tournament for 1st time will be organized..
2700+ Eng and Own Book Champion: Bobcat - Congrats to Gunnar Harms!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-70
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/G0gGlJJQ#kBjMgTu2l ... UpLOOTxcds
Have fun )
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Not at all.. Homayoun )
Yes...these engines are as good movie, song.. that never die!
Meanwhile, what I can add more:
Bobcat's own book is newer than Fruit's own book, e.g:
Fruit's own book is oldest, which belongs to 2005 year,
Where Bobcat's own released on 2011, so 'time' favors
As advantage for Bobcat's side..
Anyhow, in my eyes:
Fruit is Champ too, e.g in past (during 2004-2005 years),
Not many were capable to play over than 2700+ Elo points!
And Fruit was one of 1st that passed 2700+ Elo barrier...
Greetings )
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Yes, Sedat. I agree completely with your comments. Very nice days of the past.
Best regards
Best regards
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Hello Supernova,supernova wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 4:05 amSpecial congratulations to Sedat for hosting such a fun and competitive event. It was a time when chess engines were still in their infancy, and developers were working tirelessly to improve their creations. This tournament is a celebration of those efforts, bringing together some of the most iconic engines of the past.Sedat Canbaz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:47 am
Breaking News - 26.02.2025:
The current own books competition ended congrats and many thanks to all!
Note: Crafty 23 is re-tested with a different own book..and performed better.
E.g in recent unofficial:Results, Crafty is played with other but weaker book..
And once more, all participated engines are close to GMs 2700+ Elo, used
To play with theirs own opening books, where Bobcat is performed as best!
About Fruit, Franchesca,Rodent etc it seems theirs books are not so strong..
However, it's not a World CS, just a FUN tour...enjoy with latest new results..
Meanwhile, please stay tuned: a new Online-Like Book CS coming.. at least
I can say for now: a such exciting tournament for 1st time will be organized..
2700+ Eng and Own Book Champion: Bobcat - Congrats to Gunnar Harms!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-70
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/G0gGlJJQ#kBjMgTu2l ... UpLOOTxcds
Have fun )
Thank you )
How nice and pleasurable to read your valuable comments!
Greetings )