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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:15 am

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Hello Chess Friends,

As usually, I'm very pleased to announce that,
I've organized a new handicapped competition:
In the Name of Paul Morphy!

What is New ?
A lot of things, sure no much free time for all, but anyway here we go:
The goal is to see / determine the chess genius engines, which are
Super strong that they may win with handicap vs 3300 Elo opponents,
As sometimes giving extra two pawns, three pawns, an bishop, knight.
And despite..crushing their opponents, sure not always, but so often!!

Btw, If you are going to ask: Which engine attacks like Paul Morphy?
I'd say clearly (here I refer for under these conditions): PlentyChess!
As reason, 1st of all, the both names are starting with same letter: P
2nd. No any other player's performance (in handicap) is to be so good
3rd. Their mission to destroy the opponents, even via disadvantage...!

On other hand,
I like handicap tours...yes, SCCT is one of the 1st ever that organize
Similar Eng Ratings.... and is this all? not of course, as 1st ever are
SCCT Book Tours, plus Analyzing tests via Openings etc. Moreover,
Even SCCT is one of 1st ever done ratings with Fisher Time controls!
E.g in past, almost all TDs were organizing tours: 40 moves in X min.
Mostly are switched to Fisher TC..in latest 5-10 years, but where
I run with Fisher TC, if not wrong, since more than 25 years ago!

As last words,
I wish to say many thanks to all, especially to Eng Authors, plus to
CEFT + CCRL teams, otherwise I'd spent more time to find which
Are close to 3300 Elo ..Meanwhile, despite on theirs useful data...
To find 3300 Elo engine was complicated for my side..e.g many were
Out..as reason: they are weaker or some buggy etc. In other words,
I've spent BIG efforts all over... and is this as all? not of course,
I managed to create a new handicap opening suite, which tuned for
Both colors..e.g Whites and Blacks have more equal chances to win..
I mean in close method as my other created/used Unique test suite!
As we know here, Chess is a game for 2 (two) sides: White + Black!
Where unfortunately some opening suites.such as UHO are far away..
Theirs almost all games are ending in favor for Whites side... hehe ))
Of course, here is nothing new, if you're not so good in opening suites!
Btw, here the General stats of current tour (based on 20088 games):
40% Whites Wins / 38% Blacks Wins / where the Draw Ratio: 22%
Hope helps... please stay tuned.. soon new 'result' update coming!

HC CS V's Current Leader PlentyChess - My Congratulations to Yoshie2000!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... apped-cs-5

Best,
Sedat

Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:30 am

UPDATE

And just a few more words about all over, you know,
Openings, Tours, Testings etc. are as my 2nd job !)

Btw, from my experience I can say (during my opening suite creations),
I try NOT to be dominant only via Whites, but rather I try to be dominant
Via both color sides! And what a pity that so many people have no clue
About what's going on..Yes, realistic game stats are greater values and
More important than to get overcome only for Whites or Blacks!! Sure
That's other question, but how many are aware / pay attention all over?
Meanwhile, here are General stats of current tour (based on 29160 games):
Whites Wins: 40% / Blacks Wins: 38% / where the Draw Ratio is just: 22%

Note also via latest update: a lot of more chess engines are participated..
Including many Stockfish eng vers. (Stockfish 15, 16, 17, latest dev. etc.)
But non of them is managed to perform better/stronger than PlentyChess!
And current competition is still not over..soon more entries are planning..

HC CS V's Present Champion: PlentyChess - Congratulations to Yoshie2000!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... apped-cs-5

What I can add and to be more clear:
3rd. Their mission to destroy the opponents, even via disadvantages:
Both dominant players (Paul Morphy + PlentyChess) proved to be so!
Main difference is that (between both) Morphy did it in19th century,
Where PlentyChess is showed to be true in our current (21th) century!

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:34 pm

UPDATE 2

New unofficial testings about to check error margin..
648 games can be considered as good stats but still
Not enough.. regarding to see right/accurate points,
Very likely over than 1000+ games (per player) needed

For examples, normally in ongoing (official) tournament:
1st test, PlentyChess is performed: 354.5 / 648 (54,73%)
1st test, SF FS 050423is performed: 347.0 / 648 (53,56%)
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And here are the latest new (unofficial) testings:
2nd test, PlentyChess is performed: 347.0 / 648 (53,56%)
3rd test, PlentyChess is performed: 355.0 / 648 (54,8%)

2nd test, SF FS 050423 is performed: 347.0 / 648 (53,56%)
3rd test, SF FS 050423 is performed: 365.5 / 648 (56.3%)

GAMES (database contains the latest unofficial testing games):
https://mega.nz/file/nxQX3ZLA#Su-IuB4Tn ... FTTHBIJ3HE

As final conclusion,
Via PlentyChess is ok...proved so times to be one of best!
But this time I wish to congratulate APOCALYPSE too! who is
The author of SF FS 050423, really an amazing eng for sure,
Which is another great attacker, close in style as Morphy!

One thing more, (for anyone missed, in the official tour):
I've realized to test also Stockfish 070423 dev. which uses
Exactly same Evalfile (that used SF FS..) is performed: 51%

In other words,
I'd like to mention here, via 3rd (unofficial) testing,
SF FS 050423 has best record so far: 56.3% win. perc. !

And it seems (sure I refer for more accurate metrics etc.)
In future tours: I have to increase the number of games...

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:42 pm

UPDATE 3

Just one more unofficial testing (regarding error margin too),
Where nıow Stockfish 070423 dev. is played extra 1296 games!

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/DhpRXDiC#RsSkrV5eR ... kHmHbwiwew

Continuing....

In overall (merged latest 2nd + 3rd tests in one),
E.g Stockfish 070423 dev. is performed: 50,9%

And once more, in the official competition:
Stockfish 070423 dev. is performed: 50,6%

But if we are going to count all (1944) played games:
Then Stockfish 070423 dev. performed average: 50,8%

And after all, what we noticed and have to learn over... ?
Stockfish 070423's gained points are less and more fixed...
E.g close to 51%, where PlentyChess + SF FS 050423?'s points
Are more variable and higher in same time that means to us:
The both Top mentioned engines are more dangerous as well!

And moreover, it seems
With some players, even 648 games is ok, but with some,
Even much more games (per player) required to be played!

Meanwhile, it's interesting to know also that,
- What is the Top secret behind SF FS 050423 ?
As we see..even via same Evalfile, but theirs
Gained points are far away (from each other)
Sure here I refer for Stockfish 070423 dev.

Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:19 pm

UPDATE 4

Unofficial Ranking (via latest played games):

PlentyChess is still Number One !! but I admit too
SF FS 050423 is very close..just 1 (point) Elo diff.!


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ank Name                Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws 
   1 PlentyChess 3.0.1  3336   14   14  1944   54%  3304   23% 
   2 SF FS 050423       3335   13   14  1944   54%  3304   26% 
   3 SF PB 170922       3323   23   23   648   53%  3304   26% 
   4 XTD 010723         3322   23   23   648   53%  3304   25% 
   5 Fire 6.1           3317   15   15  1728   60%  3245   24% 
   6 rofChade 2.2       3317   15   15  1728   60%  3245   23% 
   7 Cheng 4.45         3317   15   15  1728   60%  3245   22% 
   8 Nalwald 19         3315   15   15  1728   59%  3245   24% 
   9 Houdini 4          3315   15   15  1728   59%  3245   15% 
  10 Xiphos 0.5         3314   15   15  1728   59%  3245   22% 
  11 Raubfisch SC       3313   24   24   648   51%  3304   21% 
  12 Ethereal 10.55     3310   15   15  1728   59%  3245   22% 
  13 Stockfish 070423   3310   14   14  1944   51%  3304   25% 
  14 RapTora 3.0        3309   23   23   648   51%  3304   27% 
  15 Booot 6.4          3309   15   15  1728   59%  3245   24% 
  16 Kayra 1.7          3309   23   23   648   51%  3304   25% 
  17 Laser 1.7          3306   15   15  1728   58%  3245   21% 
  18 Fritz 18           3304   15   15  1728   58%  3245   18% 
  19 CatroPOLY 310723   3303   23   23   648   50%  3304   22% 
  20 Minic 3.08         3301   15   15  1728   58%  3245   23% 
  21 Fizbo 1.9          3300   14   15  1728   58%  3245   27% 
  22 Zahak 10           3298   15   15  1728   57%  3245   20% 
  23 Integral 6         3297   23   23   648   49%  3304   26% 
  24 Komodo 9           3296   15   15  1728   57%  3245   17% 
  25 Clover 8.1         3294   23   23   648   48%  3304   27% 
  26 Swordfish 15.5     3294   23   23   648   48%  3304   23% 
  27 Obsidian 14        3292   23   23   648   48%  3304   23% 
  28 RubiChess 1.9      3290   15   15  1728   56%  3245   22% 
  29 Counter 5.0        3289   15   15  1728   56%  3245   23% 
  30 SF-130214 IP       3289   15   15  1728   56%  3245   22% 
  31 Lizard 11.1        3288   23   24   648   48%  3304   21% 
  32 Weiss 1.4          3287   15   15  1728   55%  3245   21% 
  33 Alexandria 7.1.0   3283   23   23   648   47%  3304   24% 
  34 Integral 5         3278   23   23   648   46%  3304   25% 
  35 Stockfish 221224   3272   23   23   648   45%  3304   23% 
  36 Stormphrax 6.0     3272   23   24   648   45%  3304   22% 
  37 Koivisto 9.2       3270   24   24   648   45%  3304   21% 
  38 Seer v2.8          3269   23   23   648   45%  3304   28% 
  39 Berserk 13         3264   23   23   648   44%  3304   23% 
  40 Caissa 12.1        3256   23   23   648   43%  3304   26% 
  41 Starzix 6.0        3244   24   24   648   42%  3304   21% 
  42 Velvet v8.11       3243   24   24   648   42%  3304   21% 
  43 Viridithas 15      3236   23   23   648   40%  3304   25% 
  44 RubiChess 0824     3227   24   24   648   39%  3304   21% 
  45 Motor v0.8.0       3213   24   24   648   37%  3304   21% 
  46 Fat Fritz 2        3211   24   24   648   37%  3304   22% 
  47 K.Dragon 3.3       3204   24   25   648   36%  3304   18% 
  48 Uralochka 3.41a    3188   24   25   648   34%  3304   19% 
  49 CSTal 2.0.0        3184   24   24   648   33%  3304   22% 
  50 Peacekeeper 3.0.1  3175   24   25   648   32%  3304   20% 
  51 Revenge 3          3173   25   25   648   33%  3304   15% 
  52 Clarity v7.2.0     3164   25   25   648   31%  3304   20% 
  53 Titan 1.1          3151   25   26   648   30%  3304   15% 
  54 Cfish 030820       3140   25   25   648   28%  3304   20% 
  55 Igel 3.5.0         3129   25   26   648   27%  3304   16% 
  56 Arasan 25.0        3128   25   26   648   27%  3304   15% 
  57 asmFish 10         3101   26   27   648   23%  3304   17% 
  58 Devre 6.0          3096   26   27   648   24%  3304   14% 
  59 rofChade 3.1       3093   26   27   648   23%  3304   16% 
  60 Tucano 12          3035   29   30   648   18%  3304   10%
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:42 am

UPDATE 5

Meanwhile, a new idea is born:
I started to work over a new exciting project too, and as players
Will be mainly 3700+ e.g many older SF based engine vers. plus
Many former Champions will be played out..Note also that tour
Conditions will be handicapped (as recent tours) as main diff.
All Top engines will use to play with more newer openings too..
Later, the best ones will be resumed to play with more games!

On the other hand,
Via planning competition, I expect to see great performances, but
Not from the latest SF releases... e.g newest SF ones perform worse!
Sure after all time will tell the true: newer or older will be stronger!

Btw, let's see this time which of the engines will be pure
Genius in attacks (as to Paul Morphy's attacking style ?!)

And please stay tuned.. more news soon as possible...


Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:58 pm

Thanks Sedat. Interesting idea.
Happy new year in advance

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:23 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:58 pm
Thanks Sedat. Interesting idea.
Happy new year in advance
Thanks a lot dear Homayoun )

Wishing you a happy and healthy 2025!

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:33 pm

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UPDATE 6

Shocking or Breaking News, but there is one true, so far
PlentyChess plays like Paul Morphy...just unstoppable!

As other good results (as far as I noticed),
One of my favorites: RaspTora 2.2 performs good too!
Ok...if not today... the day after tomorrow will be shared
Latest new standings... Good luck to all players )

I wish everyone the best for the new year as well!

Greetings

ZamChess
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Re: SedatChess

Post by ZamChess » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:33 am

Thank you very much !
I wish you all the best in the New Year.

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