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Sedat Canbaz
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:16 am

UPDATE

Some Notes About Super League':
After checking more closely, it is very clear that
JigSaw 5.9's produced draw ratio (via Balsa) is less...
This is another good news, because 91% draws can be
Considered not so high..especially for strong engines
Plus in case of using strong opening lines as well..

In other words,
All SL's qualified books will be played by JigSaw 5.9
You may know (in SCCT):
There is no double standards, I'm influenced by no one,
Exc. I check eng or book results, statistics, tools etc.
Even is important eng exe sizes...sure if book tours..
Actually other important influence is playing 'FUN'
For this reason, there is a possibility Super League to
Be played under Bullet cond. but before I need to run
JigSaw's draw itself tests: Blitz 2m+1s, Bullet 1m+06s
Otherwise, if using such cond. where almost all draws,
Then what is the point...?) sure via Online.. may appear
More wins..because wrong eng configuration, vs weak engines
Or playing vs weak openings or as other influence is that
The hardware speed differences play BIG role too, but
On same + fast hardware:
The situation is not like that..moreover if using/testing
Strong book openings etc. then totally different, right?

Btw, here is draw ratio of 2nd league constant players:

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Rank Name              Elo    +    - games score oppo. draws   
   2 Player1 JS        3809    2    2  6890   53%  3793   91% 
   8 Player2 KB        3803    2    2  6890   52%  3793   94% 
  11 Player3 KF        3800    2    2  6890   51%  3793   94% 
  44 Player4 PB        3788    2    2  6890   49%  3793   93% 

Greetings

Homayoun
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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:51 am

So Jigsaw will be the selected engine for book tournament. Many thanks and I will follow the tournament.
Best regards

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:39 pm

Homayoun wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:51 am
So Jigsaw will be the selected engine for book tournament. Many thanks and I will follow the tournament.
Best regards
Dear Homayoun,

Thanks for your interest as always..

Yes...Jigsaw v5.9 seems to be very suitable... except that is
Super strong and stable, plus produced less draws...
Plus small in size, since I prefer to install for each book
Player other copy of chess engine...

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:42 pm

2nd League's Update

A new DONFree ver is entered...and is managed to qualify,
With close to 51% win. percentage, really great!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 DONfree 090724                  5       9     520   50.8%   90.4% 
   1 Player1 JS                     13      22     130   51.9%   86.9% 
   2 Player3 KF                      8      12     130   51.2%   96.2% 
   3 Player2 KB                    -16      18     130   47.7%   90.8% 
   4 Player4 PB                    -27      21     130   46.2%   87.7% 

520 of 520 games finished.
What I can say more (according to my experience too):
There are also such great books, where it does not matter much
With which Top engine plays... if your book lines are super strong..
Then no doubt it is expecting to see less engine errors too, right?

By the way,
If X opening book is superior strong too..then
It's not required much luck (during active tours)!
If you hadn't been tuned so well the openings...
Then your book is expecting to be not so lucky!
In other words, 'the best luck' is in our hands !)

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:17 pm

SUPER LEAGUE's 1st Result UPDATE

Here are 1st LIVE Standings after about 110+ games (per player)
Where HCAN, BN XXII, DON, OlisFish..with impressive start so far!

Some Details:
Playing at Bullet (1m+05s), as reason, e.g if Blitz:
JigSaw's produced Draw ratio is much higher... even
At 1m+05s is high (95%).. but for less draws I have to
Switch to faster TC or I had to use Raubfish SC engine )
Anyhow, I'm happy with these cond. I assume you too..
If nothing else..this tour is different than all others..

Be aware too, any Player (via current Round-Robin tourney)
Will consist 850 games, but for determining Champion tittle,
It is required minimum 1000+ games (per player) that means,
We will need more qualified players, but I expect in the next
Days may appear...you know, the CS is just in beginning...

On other hand,
Here the situation is different.. usually the newer book vers.
Gain better points but not always... just one example,
Goi + Grendel's old dated openings perform not bad so far...
We will see.. sure for better stats more games are needed...

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 HCanFree 2404                  22      18     109   53.2%   91.7% 
   2 BN XXII Top                    16      22     111   52.3%   88.3% 
   3 DONfree 090724                 12      15     112   51.8%   94.6% 
   4 OlisFish 201123                12      15     113   51.8%   94.7% 
   5 Goi-Grendel                     9      10     113   51.3%   97.3% 
   6 AdrianOliva                     9      10     115   51.3%   97.4% 
   7 Dara 090724                     6      12     110   50.9%   96.4% 
   8 Rebel 110324                    0       9     113   50.0%   98.2% 
   9 V by Kerveros                  -3      16     113   49.6%   93.8% 
  10 Hurna 2023                     -3      18     111   49.5%   91.9% 
  11 Bullet SBT                     -3      11     111   49.5%   97.3% 
  12 Raid TR 200823                 -6       8     113   49.1%   98.2% 
  13 Learning                       -6      21     112   49.1%   89.3% 
  14 HCanFree Upd                   -9      20     111   48.6%   90.1% 
  15 Yoruba 150424                  -9      16     110   48.6%   93.6% 
  16 Cerebellum 3M                 -12      12     112   48.2%   96.4% 
  17 SkynetSCCT 10.1               -13      15     111   48.2%   94.6% 
  18 Solista 081022                -22      18     112   46.9%   92.0% 

1006 of 7650 games finished.
Greetings )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:19 pm

SUPER LEAGUE's UPDATE 2

The Current Book Leader - HCanFree 2404 - Congrats to Hamdullah Can!

Btw, I'm bit surprised that my created BN XXII is currently at 2nd place..
Because BN XII's openings can not be said as new...belonging to 2023 year!
However, the most important is FUN.. rest does not matter much..

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 HCanFree 2404                  15       6     536   52.1%   95.0% 
   2 BN XXII Top                    11       9     532   51.6%   90.8% 
   3 AdrianOliva                    10       5     537   51.4%   96.5% 
   4 DONfree 090724                  8       7     535   51.1%   94.0% 
   5 Hurna 2023                      6       7     533   50.8%   93.8% 
   6 OlisFish 201123                 6       5     534   50.8%   97.2% 
   7 Goi-Grendel                     3       4     536   50.4%   97.8% 
   8 Bullet SBT                      1       6     535   50.2%   96.3% 
   9 Dara 090724                     1       6     537   50.2%   96.3% 
  10 Yoruba 150424                   0       6     531   50.0%   95.5% 
  11 Raid TR 200823                 -2       5     535   49.7%   97.6% 
  12 Rebel 110324                   -3       5     533   49.6%   96.6% 
  13 V by Kerveros                  -4       6     532   49.4%   95.5% 
  14 HCanFree Upd                   -5       8     536   49.3%   92.7% 
  15 Cerebellum 3M                  -8       5     538   48.9%   97.0% 
  16 Solista 081022                -11       7     533   48.4%   94.9% 
  17 SkynetSCCT 10.1               -14       7     532   48.0%   93.4% 
  18 Learning                      -15       8     533   47.8%   91.9% 

4809 of 7650 games finished.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:50 pm

SUPER LEAGUE's UPDATE 3

The Current Book Leader - BN XXII Top - My Congratulations to XXX ???
Actually I'm the author, but all credits are going to XXII's Best Masters!

And it is interesting... a similar issue happened before..but very rarely..
I mean my created book to be Leading over such super strong books..
In other words,
It seems I still may create sometimes not so weak books too ;)

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 BN XXII Top                    15       8     696   52.2%   89.9% 
   2 HCanFree 2404                  13       5     699   51.9%   95.6% 
   3 AdrianOliva                    10       5     700   51.4%   96.6% 
   4 Hurna 2023                      6       6     696   50.9%   93.8% 
   5 DONfree 090724                  6       6     694   50.9%   94.8% 
   6 OlisFish 201123                 5       4     699   50.7%   97.7% 
   7 Bullet SBT                      3       5     696   50.5%   95.8% 
   8 Dara 090724                     1       5     698   50.2%   96.4% 
   9 Goi-Grendel                     0       4     699   50.1%   97.6% 
  10 Yoruba 150424                   0       6     696   50.0%   95.1% 
  11 V by Kerveros                  -2       6     698   49.6%   95.3% 
  12 Raid TR 200823                 -3       4     698   49.6%   97.4% 
  13 Rebel 110324                   -3       5     697   49.6%   96.8% 
  14 HCanFree Upd                   -8       7     700   48.9%   92.9% 
  15 Cerebellum 3M                  -8       5     697   48.8%   96.7% 
  16 Learning                      -11       7     699   48.4%   92.0% 
  17 Solista 081022                -12       6     695   48.3%   95.0% 
  18 SkynetSCCT 10.1               -14       7     697   48.0%   92.8% 

6277 of 7650 games finished.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:02 pm

Thank you very much for all updates.
:difus_27

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:45 am

Homayoun wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:02 pm
Thank you very much for all updates.
:difus_27
Not at all.. it's my pleasure :difus_19

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:59 am

Breaking News - 10.07.2024:
1st of all, just a FUN CS and please don't take too seriously the results
Life is too short, simply enjoy... and never let others to bring you down!
2nd some of books are very old-dated, especially Cerebellum, Solista..
So we can not expect much from them vs strongest new trend books...
3rd. all the current Top books are as real Wolves..managed to survive...
Via qualifying ! And frankly, to be a 'Super League player' is not so easy
As it looks..Note also that DON is the latest (18th) qualified player entry!
Be aware too the CS is still active...on other hand, not sure exactly, but
I plan to work over it at least 3-4 days..actually even there is possibility
To be paused and later to be resumed because I like it, I assume you too?

Super League Leader: BN XXII Top - Congrats to XXII's Best Masters!

For Latest Standings of SL:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... s-31-super

Have Fun :difus_19

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