SedatChess

[Sedat Canbaz]

Hello there,

1st of all,
Very soon I hope to organize another new CS,
And again with players mainly 3770+ Elo, but
Before starting the planning official CS,
There will be candidate tours..as reason:
One engine (per author) will be allowed...
Otherwise (sure I refer for older tourneys),
Some of authors participate with 1 engine,
Some with 2...even some author/s participate
With many engines and usually the One/s with
Many... have more chances to be Number One!

In other words,
Via new rule (one engine per author),
The CS will be played with more fair cond.!

And here is 1st Candidate tour results (by OrgZ Engines),
Where only the Winner will be qualified into planning CS..

Note also that (in Candidate CS),
Minimum 500 games will be played (each participant)
I'm aware that not enough..may appear error margin,
Since the engines are playing with Unique openings...
But at least, in official CS: it's planning each player
To contain over than 1500+ games (per player) so best,
Strongest ones are expecting to be one of Top ranks!

By the way,
For the current test, Good Luck 'only' to Tanick Ramz

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Private 19Sf                    7      14     258   51.0%   88.8% 
   2 C-Dragon v3.0                   3      16     256   50.4%   85.9% 
   3 SF-POLY 020624                  0      17     257   50.0%   84.4% 
   4 C-Dragon v3.1                  -1      13     259   49.8%   91.1% 
   5 Marauders 3.6                  -1      13     256   49.8%   90.2% 
   6 JigSaw v5.8                    -7      15     260   49.0%   88.1% 

773 of 1500 games finished.

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 30s+0.6s, Unique, 64 Hash, 4-MEN

Meanwhile, if you are going to ask:
Why two C-Dragon vers. are entered...? simply because
Both engine versions are used to play with different nets..,
You know even single influence we may expect diff. results

Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

Update

Impressive! Private 19Sf is 1st qualified player (by Tanick Ramz engines)!

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1   Private 19Sf    51.0 - 49.049.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.552.0 - 48.051.0 - 49.0**      253.0/500
2   SF-POLY 020624  49.0 - 51.051.0 - 49.049.5 - 50.552.0 - 48.049.5 - 50.5 **     251.0/500
3   C-Dragon v3.1   50.5 - 49.549.0 - 51.050.5 - 49.548.0 - 52.052.5 - 47.5  **    250.5/500
4   JigSaw v5.8     50.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.549.0 - 51.0   **   249.0/500 
5   Marauders 3.6   48.0 - 52.048.0 - 52.052.0 - 48.050.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.5    **  249.0/500 
6   C-Dragon v3.0   49.0 - 51.050.5 - 49.547.5 - 52.551.0 - 49.049.5 - 50.5     ** 247.5/500

As next Candidate tour:
Eduard Nemeth's engines will be played each other..
Good Luck to Mr. Eduard )

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 2

Another great score! LittleBeast 15 is next qualified..(by Eduard Nemeth)!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 LittleBeast 15                  6      10     500   50.8%   88.4% 
   2 Deep Ripper                     6      11     500   50.8%   86.4% 
   3 Big-SF 110324                  -2      11     500   49.7%   85.8% 
   4 Sun_15                         -3      12     500   49.6%   85.2% 
   5 SFS 130424                     -3      11     500   49.6%   87.2% 
   6 Steel Fighter                  -3      11     500   49.5%   87.8% 

1500 of 1500 games finished.

Note also that (for determining the Winner...),
There was Tie-Break Match, LittleBeast 15 vs Deep Ripper:

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Score of LittleBeast 15 vs Deep Ripper: 9 - 5 - 86 [0.520]
...      LittleBeast 15 playing White: 7 - 0 - 43  [0.570] 50
...      LittleBeast 15 playing Black: 2 - 5 - 43  [0.470] 50
...      White vs Black: 12 - 2 - 86  [0.550] 100

Elo difference: 13.9 +/- 25.4, LOS: 85.7 %, DrawRatio: 86.0 %

SPRT: llr 0 (0.0%), lbound -inf, ubound inf
100 of 100 games finished.

Btw, here is another good example (in tie-break..) e.g
Just imagine...if we use to play small number of games,
Such as 100 games (per player)... then I mean simply that
The right Elo difference, standings etc. is mystery, right ?

As next Candidate match:
Eman 9.90 vs Polyfish 140124
Good Luck to Mr. Khalid Omar

Greetings

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 3

Very good! Polyfish 140124 is next qualified player (by Khalid Omar)!

On the other hand,
Both eng versions are close in performance plus close in released dates too!
In other words, I mean simply that no BIG surprise at all....

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Score of Eman 9.90 vs Polyfish 140124: 31 - 34 - 435 [0.497]
...      Eman 9.90 playing White: 28 - 4 - 218  [0.548] 250
...      Eman 9.90 playing Black: 3 - 30 - 217  [0.446] 250
...      White vs Black: 58 - 7 - 435  [0.551] 500

Elo difference: -2.1 +/- 11.0, LOS: 35.5 %, DrawRatio: 87.0 %

SPRT: llr 0 (0.0%), lbound -inf, ubound inf
500 of 500 games finished.

Meanwhile (about the other rest engines),
That's all ..there will be no more Candidate tours for planning CS!
To be more clear, theirs latest Top engine vers. will be played out..

And please stay tuned,
Very soon the 1st official played results are coming...!

GOOD LUCK TO ALL AUTHORS !!

Best,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 4

And as I promised,
Here are the 1st played official results of SCCT NNUE CS LII

Very interesting.. for right now, we have 4 (four) Leading Engines:
Deep Blue, Polyfish, SF-PB and Stockfish - My Congratulations..!

Btw, to be honest I can't remember that after serious amount of games,
4 Top engines as Leaders..what about you? did you ever notice before ?)

LIVE RANKING VIA CUTECHESS (after 900+ games per Player):

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 SF-PB 120624                    5       8     909   50.7%   87.1% 
   2 D.Blue 180524                   5       8     909   50.7%   86.9% 
   3 Polyfish 140124                 5       8     910   50.7%   86.9% 
   4 Stockfish 150624                5       8     911   50.7%   87.7% 
   5 LittleBeast 15                  2       8     914   50.2%   88.0% 
   6 SF-PRO 160624                  -0       8     911   49.9%   87.2% 
   7 Corchess 180624                -2       8     911   49.7%   87.4% 
   8 Private 19Sf                   -2       8     909   49.7%   87.5% 
   9 Kookaburra 2                   -6       8     910   49.1%   87.4% 
  10 Killfish 150624               -10       8     912   48.6%   86.2% 

4553 of 7560 games finished.

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 30s+0.6s, Unique, 64 Hash, 4-MEN
Note: Sure where possible, each participant's move overhead is increased: 250
Be aware of that too as same words going during recent Candidate tours as well

Greetings )

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 5

Via this update, the standings slightly changed..especially the Top ones..
Great..for moment, Skynet's engine is current Leader - Congrats to Alex!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 SF-PB 120624                    8       7    1337   51.2%   86.5% 
   2 D.Blue 180524                   3       7    1335   50.4%   86.7% 
   3 Stockfish 150624                2       6    1331   50.3%   88.6% 
   4 SF-PRO 160624                   1       7    1331   50.2%   86.3% 
   5 Corchess 180624                 1       7    1335   50.1%   86.9% 
   6 Private 19Sf                   -1       6    1336   49.9%   87.9% 
   7 Polyfish 140124                -1       7    1337   49.8%   86.9% 
   8 LittleBeast 15                 -2       7    1332   49.8%   87.4% 
   9 Kookaburra 2                   -5       7    1336   49.3%   86.8% 
  10 Killfish 150624                -7       7    1334   49.1%   87.2% 

6672 of 7560 games finished.

Note also that as next new update/s..
It's planning after Euro2024 match Georgia vs Czechia
Or maybe even after Turkey vs Portugal match...

Greetings )

[OrgZ]

Update

Impressive! Private 19Sf is 1st qualified player (by Tanick Ramz engines)!

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1   Private 19Sf    51.0 - 49.049.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.552.0 - 48.051.0 - 49.0**      253.0/500
2   SF-POLY 020624  49.0 - 51.051.0 - 49.049.5 - 50.552.0 - 48.049.5 - 50.5 **     251.0/500
3   C-Dragon v3.1   50.5 - 49.549.0 - 51.050.5 - 49.548.0 - 52.052.5 - 47.5  **    250.5/500
4   JigSaw v5.8     50.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.549.5 - 50.549.5 - 50.549.0 - 51.0   **   249.0/500 
5   Marauders 3.6   48.0 - 52.048.0 - 52.052.0 - 48.050.5 - 49.550.5 - 49.5    **  249.0/500 
6   C-Dragon v3.0   49.0 - 51.050.5 - 49.547.5 - 52.551.0 - 49.049.5 - 50.5     ** 247.5/500

As next Candidate tour:
Eduard Nemeth's engines will be played each other..
Good Luck to Mr. Eduard )

Greetings

Thanks , a very interesting tournament indeed.
BUT you are crediting the wrong person. This engine is a 4 people project, this doesn't sit well with my friends Sedat. Bundling Private19sf as mine is not right buddy


As for C Dragon
Apart from different nets, the code it self is different in some of the source files. Different version means different code.

As for SF PB id like to clarify something maybe you missed the engine is stillJUST Stockfish 240612. There's NO difference apart from the ability to handle bin books and nothing else. The difference between SF PolY and SF PB is that i actually change the way the engine searches its not just book adding......

[APOCALYPSE]

The test will take several days!
PLEASE WAIT...

Sure..I'm looking forward to seeing your new results...

Greetings

Tomorrow I will publish the results, because I have to leave now and I don’t have time.

[Sedat Canbaz]

Thanks , a very interesting tournament indeed.
BUT you are crediting the wrong person. This engine is a 4 people project, this doesn't sit well with my friends Sedat. Bundling Private19sf as mine is not right buddy

As for C Dragon
Apart from different nets, the code it self is different in some of the source files. Different version means different code.

As for SF PB id like to clarify something maybe you missed the engine is stillJUST Stockfish 240612. There's NO difference apart from the ability to handle bin books and nothing else. The difference between SF PolY and SF PB is that i actually change the way the engine searches its not just book adding......

Hello Mr. Tanick,

Not at all....and thank you too for your interest,
Even some of your comments are very useful..

But anyhow,
I disagree that I'm crediting wrong authors etc.
Sure my work is not perfect..and as a single TD..
You know...sometimes I may miss to see, to read...

On other hand,
For examples, after checking your both mentioned ones:
Private19Sf by Team JaR-Heads, Tanick Ramz & SF-Team
C-Dragon v3.1 by Tanick Ramz & the SF Team
Plus Marauders, SF-POLY etc. by you + SF team, right?

In other words, it is very clear that,
You are one of the authors of candidate engines !)
So I can not see any mistake by my side...!!

About SF-PB engine,
Yes ..you have right..but in current NNUE CS LII
There is no 'Similarity Rule' so no barrier, free for all!
Except, one engine per author/s is allowed and besides
As far as possible, 3770+ Elo ones are as main players!

Meanwhile, since we talk over.. other good example:
Except SF-PB, Polyfish is participated too, I mean
Polyfish (as SF-PB) has very high similarities too!
Not sure exactly with latest SF-PB releases, but
Some older SF-PB releases were very close (in similarity)
I mean simply that almost identical to real mother (SF)!

But anyhow, in next/future SCCT Championships of 3700+:
Just in case...I plan to use a Similarity RULE again e.g
Up to 75% or 80% in Similarity, at least will be more fair!

BTW,
The final result update is planning tomorrow...

Greetings )

[Sedat Canbaz]

UPDATE 6

Well, here 2 (two) more entries: Brainlearn 28.1 and SFNNv6 16.1
Since in ongoing CS 'no size limit', so latest Brainlearn ver is in..

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Rank Name                         Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 Brainlearn 28.1                1       8     861   50.1%   87.5% 
   1 LittleBeast 15                13      23      78   51.9%   91.0% 
   2 Corchess 180624               13      29      79   51.9%   86.1% 
   3 SF-PRO 160624                  9      31      76   51.3%   84.2% 
   4 Killfish 150624                9      29      80   51.2%   85.0% 
   5 D.Blue 180524                  9      24      80   51.2%   90.0% 
   6 Stockfish 150624               0      32      79   50.0%   82.3% 
   7 SF-PB 120624                  -9      21      78   48.7%   92.3% 
   8 SFNNv6 16.1                   -9      25      77   48.7%   89.6% 
   9 Private 19Sf                 -13      33      79   48.1%   81.0% 
  10 Polyfish 140124              -14      20      77   48.1%   93.5% 
  11 Kookaburra 2                 -18      27      78   47.4%   87.2% 

861 of 1848 games finished.

Meanwhile,
Very likely today, I hope to share the FINAL standings...
And any of the above player will contain min 1848 games
That means in the end...we will have serious data about
Which is Best of Best...sure I refer for under these cond...
Just in case of equal points by the highest ranked ones:
There will be Tie-Break duels for determining the Winner!

GOOD LUCK )