SedatChess

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Homayoun » Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:41 pm

OrgZ wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:09 pm
Thanks Sedat.
+1

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:54 am

Homayoun wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:41 pm
OrgZ wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:09 pm
Thanks Sedat.
+1
Not at all dear chess friends )

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:46 pm

Breaking News - 24.04.2024:
Current championship ended...congrats and many thanks to all!
Via this update, 2 books played and they performed very good!
As same words are going for all rest of current book players..!!
Especially TURKEY (as HCAN) was as serious opponent to be
Next Number One, but it seems both were not lucky..or perhaps
Newer stronger opening lines, ideas are required..who knows?)
Yes..this time Unicarnio is said the last word! But however don't
Take too seriously the results.. just fun tour...no more.. no less!
Ok chess friends, that's all for now and I hope to see you again...

Super League Champion Unicarnio- Congrats to Angel Morano!
Second League Champion: TURKEY - Congrats to Goktuk Goker!

FINAL Standings of Super League:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... s-29-super

FINAL Standings of 2nd League:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-29

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/b9xEURBK#wxDaTKgiC ... Kfo3hgdfE8

Best,
Sedat

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:44 am

Breaking News - 30.04.2024:
The latest both TURKEY versions are highly based on OPTIMUS 2401,
Rather I'd say simply as clone.. sad indeed.. and for these reasons,
The gained Champion titles are going to Mr. Roger Constantinesco!
On other hand, I am very surprised that Gokturk Goker is preferred
To clone, imitate others work, ideas..and what I can say more over,
It's much better to fail in originality than to be successful in cloning!
Once more I'd like say, No One can be on Top by the work of others!
And let's hope to see more original ideas..if nothing else to be fair!

Btw,
Nowadays I'm busy... but when I will have more free time,
I hope to organize new book and eng competitions as well

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:19 pm

UPDATE

Here is the proof, you can Download all the mentioned books:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Z5YcHVA

And now...even who has a little bit experience (in book making)
Has a possibility to check out, to compare about what is going on,
Because TURKEY's author claims that his latest books are original ))

Sure, I admit also that
They are not exactly same book copies but if checking closely,
As main difference between them is that
Both TURKEY books prefer 1. e4 e5, but what about rest?
Frankly, there is no much difference..at least I could not see..

Be aware of that too,
Here is not Online game play...here is SCCT..in other words,
Clone books are not allowed..just in case, there will be ban !!

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by OrgZ » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:46 pm

Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:19 pm
UPDATE

Here is the proof, you can Download all the mentioned books:
https://pixeldrain.com/u/1Z5YcHVA

And now...even who has a little bit experience (in book making)
Has a possibility to check out, to compare about what is going on,
Because TURKEY's author claims that his latest books are original ))

Sure, I admit also that
They are not exactly same book copies but if checking closely,
As main difference between them is that
Both TURKEY books prefer 1. e4 e5, but what about rest?
Frankly, there is no much difference..at least I could not see..

Be aware of that too,
Here is not Online game play...here is SCCT..in other words,
Clone books are not allowed..just in case, there will be ban !!

Greetings
:lol: such a damn shame, i thought this was supposed to be for fun. Now people are cloning books, what for, what is the point? what is it that they want to prove?
Sedat you nailed this thief well done :difus_24 .
Am sure conrog isn't happy about this.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by ConRog » Wed May 01, 2024 12:26 am

Hi,

Not very surprised because some false "book makers" do not publish public, as they know the real book maker will see marked lines. OPTIMUS series have 2 lines of 20 moves inside it, that are never played :

1. h3 h6 2. h4 h5 3. g3 g6 4. g4 g5 5. gxh5 gxh4 6. f3 f6 7. f4 f5 8. e3 e6 9. e4 e5 10. fxe5 fxe4 11. d3 d6 12. d4 d5 13. c3 c6 14. c4 c5 15. cxd5 cxd4 16. b3 b6 17. b4 b5 18. a3 a6 19. a4 a5 20. bxa5 bxa4

Same structure 20 moves line at opposite side of the board : 1. a3 a6 2. a4 a5 etc.

Merging books to make it "bigger" and/or modifying first 2 plies takes around 1-2 minutes. So easy.

It's not the first time, it will not be the last, unfortunately. That's why I look for more public book rankings separate from private book rankings, even if they are all in same tour.

Best regards.

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed May 01, 2024 11:09 am

OrgZ wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:46 pm


:lol: such a damn shame, i thought this was supposed to be for fun. Now people are cloning books, what for, what is the point? what is it that they want to prove?
Sedat you nailed this thief well done :difus_24 .
Am sure conrog isn't happy about this.
Hello Tanick,

Thank you for your replay...and what a shame!

Just my 2 cents more over these issues:

Cloning of others work is a cheap, but a very wrong way! and
All happens due to passion to be NUMBER ONE, no more no less!
Actually would be much better if if there was apologize by him..
But for this... it is required to be a man !

And this is also true, these kind of brains forget that
There is also BIG risk to be recognized (as clone work..)
And now, I wonder he is still NUMBER ONE or not ?)

Forget everything,
As I stated earlier..even if my son...I'd prefer to
Say the true..in my mentality as 1st come the truth,
Even my name (Sedat) means justness, truth...

Btw, a few more words about TURKEY's book author:
He contacted Me (before sharing the proof - books)
Where he tried his best to say something like that
I cloned OPTIMUS books )) really as shocking news ))
And to be more serious, he tried to say such as:
He is innocent..his both books are 100% original etc
Even he blamed Me that I'm completely wrong such as
I have no any right to take out his Champion tittles..
Really strange arrogant behaviors by him...exc. that
He is not as honest author..I wish to say also that
If we look more carefully at his actions, after all:
He tried to fool all Computer chess community e.g:

1st. Tournament Manager (Me) and here I'm very affected..
Because I spend really BIG efforts..for what ? to show
Fake authors work as NUMBER ONE ? this is not acceptable..

2nd. SedatChess visitors, No One has right to fool them..

3rd. Openchess + Goi forum members.. and plus many
Other friends too, besides as one of most important:
He did not show respect to OPTIMUS's author!

And without to not mention this I can not as well:
BIG thanks to Conrog.. I appreciate his great assistance..
Because as single TD, I have no mıuch free time for all...
By the way, Conrog was the 1st..who managed to recognize!
A small note, even without checking both TURKEY books..
I mean many days ago.. just by checking the played games!
This is another great talent for sure and we need more people
As Conrog (Roger) actually this is nothing new..where we
Noticed again that Conrog recognized in Oliprog tours too!

Ok.. my chess friend ...see you later )

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by Sedat Canbaz » Wed May 01, 2024 12:05 pm

ConRog wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 12:26 am
Hi,

Not very surprised because some false "book makers" do not publish public, as they know the real book maker will see marked lines. OPTIMUS series have 2 lines of 20 moves inside it, that are never played :

1. h3 h6 2. h4 h5 3. g3 g6 4. g4 g5 5. gxh5 gxh4 6. f3 f6 7. f4 f5 8. e3 e6 9. e4 e5 10. fxe5 fxe4 11. d3 d6 12. d4 d5 13. c3 c6 14. c4 c5 15. cxd5 cxd4 16. b3 b6 17. b4 b5 18. a3 a6 19. a4 a5 20. bxa5 bxa4

Same structure 20 moves line at opposite side of the board : 1. a3 a6 2. a4 a5 etc.

Merging books to make it "bigger" and/or modifying first 2 plies takes around 1-2 minutes. So easy.

It's not the first time, it will not be the last, unfortunately. That's why I look for more public book rankings separate from private book rankings, even if they are all in same tour.

Best regards.
Hello Roger,

1st of all,
Very sad news...but this is life..you know,
It's impossible all people to be fair...

On other hand, after all...you are as detective too ))
Yes you are very experienced in this area (in recognizing...)

And as far as I know,
Not once, not two.. at least 3 times your books are cloned...

Sure cloning can not be acceptable....but reality is reality,
Nowadays your public books become as trend to be cloned!
Actually in same time..you have to be proud...really...!!

BTW, I can summarize all over something like that:
(I mean what TURKEY's book author is tried...),
A stolen 'white' MERCEDES is painted into 'red' color,
As extra are added/changed the lights etc..after all:
The owner of 'red' MERCEDES claims simply such as:
His automobile is already as own (not stolen) hehe ))

Ok... that's all for now...exc. even at these days,
Where I have to do other work.. I am here again..)
But no any regret..just for Computer Chess's progress!

Greetings

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Re: SedatChess

Post by ConRog » Wed May 01, 2024 5:58 pm

Thank you Sedat for your passion in Chess world, spending hours on organizing big tournaments.
As you noticed, I analyze every wins to discover new "gold nuggets" lines.
I also like when you distinguish private and public books in your rankings.
Hopefully vast majority of private books comes from book makers that spend hours on there books, some are even from professionals (DON, 1337, Goi etc.) and that makes your work highly respected for book makers. I tried to make very little tours and it monopolizes my PC for to many days for me, that I had to stop them. I just imagine hundreds of days spend since you began organizing big tournaments.

Best Regards.

Roger.

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