FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

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FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by notyetagm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:22 am

See the table on the bottom of the following Maximum PC webpage:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/featur ... hes_ashore

This table shows that a 4-core 3.4 GHz i7-2600K beats a 6-core 3.33 GHz i7-980X!!! WOW!!!

This new Intel Sandy Bridge CPU is really incredible. And have I mentioned that I've heard that this SB CPU can be overclocked to 5 GHz?

(5/3.4) * 13,017 = 19,143 OC Fritzmark! YOWSA!

Anyone have any idea how well the upcoming AMD Bulldozer will compare to this?

Thanks

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by tano-urayoan » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:38 am

Anandtech


"Unless you're running a lot of heavily threaded applications (like chess*), I would recommend a Core i7-2600K over even a Core i7-980X.
...For everyone else, Sandy Bridge is easily a no brainer. Unless you already have a high-end Core i7, this is what you'll want to upgrade to."

Maybe Fritzmark is a shitty benchmark for chess after all.

*This is my note

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by kingliveson » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:53 am

Excerpt :
The Death of Overclocking

That brings us to the most controversial aspect of Sandy Bridge: the death of overclocking as we know it. At least, that’s probably what most enthusiasts will say when they hear the news that it will be extremely difficult to overclock the vast majority of Intel’s new Sandy Bridge chips.

As you know, there are two ways to overclock a Core i3/5/7 chip: increasing the Turbo Boost multipliers (which can only be done on Extreme chips and K chips) or upping the base clock, or bclock. With LGA1156 and LGA1366 CPUs, the bclock relied on the clock signal being generated by a separate clock on the motherboard. With LGA1155, Intel has integrated a clock-signaling device into the chipset itself, and now when you goose the bclock, everything runs out of spec and gets ugly fast. With Sandy Bridge, you shouldn’t expect a bclock overclock to net you more than 5 percent at best. That’s a damned shame to those of us used to taking any old Core i3/5/7 and pushing the bclock from 133MHz up past 200MHz.

Conspiracy theories are already swirling that Intel did this because too many people were overclocking cheap chips instead of buying pricier ones. The company denies this. It says the main reason it moved the clock into the chipset was to save costs. While it may seem insignificant, integrating the clock into the chipset saves a board maker $5, which is a big deal. Intel officials say they didn’t intend to put a clock block on our bclock, but it was an unfortunate casualty of engineering. Officials say it’s quite possible that future iterations could see the return of bclock overclocking.
Pricing is where AMD usually has an advantage and now...
PAWN : Knight >> Bishop >> Rook >>Queen

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by notyetagm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:06 am

kingliveson wrote:Excerpt :

...

Pricing is where AMD usually has an advantage and now...
The Intel Sandy Bridge i7-2600K is only about $320!!!!!

AMD has a big, sandy problem on their hands. :-)

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by notyetagm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:06 am

kingliveson wrote:Excerpt :

...

Pricing is where AMD usually has an advantage and now...
The Intel Sandy Bridge i7-2600K is only about $320!!!!!

AMD has a big, sandy problem on their hands. :-)

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by ernest » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:24 am

notyetagm wrote:This table shows that a 4-core 3.4 GHz i7-2600K beats a 6-core 3.33 GHz i7-980X!!! WOW!!!
This whole thing seems fishy: on that Benchmark table,
the 3.33GHz Core i7-975 Extreme Edition (4 cores) has the same FritzMark - 12738
as the 3.33GHz Core i7-980X (6cores) - 12733

Maybe the did not use the most recent FritzMark program (which can use 6 cores)

In the Rybka Forum, Lukas Cimiotti measured that the new i7-2600K is no better than the previous i7...

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by notyetagm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:29 am

ernest wrote:
notyetagm wrote:This table shows that a 4-core 3.4 GHz i7-2600K beats a 6-core 3.33 GHz i7-980X!!! WOW!!!
This whole thing seems fishy: on that Benchmark table,
the 3.33GHz Core i7-975 Extreme Edition (4 cores) has the same FritzMark - 12738
as the 3.33GHz Core i7-980X (6cores) - 12733

Maybe the did not use the most recent FritzMark program (which can use 6 cores)

In the Rybka Forum, Lukas Cimiotti measured that the new i7-2600K is no better than the previous i7...
Thanks for pointing out that mistake then.

I saw another table that had the i7-980X Fritzmark at something like 18,000 kNs. I just assumed they were wrong because MaximumPC is my bible for everything PC. Guess they made a mistake this time.

I guess you'll just have to overclock the i7-2600K to 5 GHz to beat the i7-980X. :-)

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by notyetagm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:31 am

Anyone know where you can get this 6-core FritzMark program?

Thanks

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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by notyetagm » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:32 am

Here is a correct benchmark table:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... ew-11.html


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Re: FRITZMARK: i7-2600K 13,017 > i7-980X 12,733 !!!!!!!!!

Post by ernest » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:59 am

notyetagm wrote:Anyone know where you can get this 6-core FritzMark program?
Find a friend who has recently purchased Deep Fritz 12
and ask him for the version 4.3.2.0 of the Fritz Chess Benchmark.exe program

Note that in http://www.jens-hartmann.at/Fritzmarks/
you will find FritzMarks of some i7-980X (reduced to 3.3GHz, that gives around 17000)

Finally note that FritzMarks favor Intel vs. AMD and seem to profit a lot from HT (hyperthreading)...

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