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I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.

What do you normally play? I don't see why any plan that works against something else wouldn't work against f4.

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTbJR4pzJLo

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.

Counter it with your move 1. e4 g6 and play something else there.

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1. e4 g6 2. f4 Bg7 3. d4 c5 4. d5 d6 *

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Enter New Game"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "6"]

1. e4 g6 2. f4 Bg7 3. Nf3 d5 *

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Enter New Game"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[PlyCount "11"]

1. e4 g6 2. f4 c5 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. Bb5 Nd4 *

I guess You may either go for some kind of Grand Prix Sicilian (play ...c5, ...Nc6, ...e6, ...Nge7, keeping an eye on d7-d5), or simply ...d6/Nf6 without early c5, intending to transpose to Pirc Defense.For some time many of my games tended to start 1.e4 d6 2. f4 g6 3.Nf3 Bg7 4. Nc3 Nf6 - until my club opponents realized that looking for a direct refutation of the Pirc is decidedly unhealthy for them

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.

Hi,
what about 2... e5

Rgds Hood

Hood wrote:

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.

Hi,
what about 2... e5

Rgds Hood

Your suggestion, as bizarre looking as it is at first, doesn't seem to be all that bad. I tried a few mini-matches at a fairly fast time control (40/5) from that position, and black came out more than ok (>50% score for black, surprisingly).

Thank you.
Could you post some games ?

The move was looking logical for me.
we got the position from King Gambit 1e4 e5 2.f4 g6 by the way.

rgds Hood

Hagen wrote:I'm having trouble as Black countering this move order my opponent as White makes and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me a specific series of moves to counter this. Thanks.

One option is 2..d5!?