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computer cheating examples

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:20 pm
by pgn4web
In a discussion on another forum, the general consensus was that computer cheating is pervasive in online chess. FICS was often quoted as an environment filled with computer cheaters. I used to play on FICS more often than I do at the moment, but I never had the impression that my opponent was cheating. This means either that they were not cheating or that they were cheating and I did not notice. In order to avoid the latter case in the future and gain some more experience in the matter, I'm asking for a courtesy.

If you ever played chess online and you were certain that your opponent was cheating with a computer, could you please post the rigged games here?
If you don't have a record of all your games (and you were not playing on FICS, see below) could you please post the next games were you'll be certain your opponent cheats with a computer?

If you were playing on FICS, the http://ficsgames.org database stores all games played on the server; it's very easy to search trough your games and find the ones you remember for playing against a cheater. It's very easy to post here a game from the http://ficsgames.org databases; the database offers directly a link to replay each game, such as http://ficsgames.org/cgi-bin/show.cgi?ID=335945245 (this is a game of mine and for the record I dont think my opponent cheated here). ; such a link to each rigged game would be perfect. The http://ficsgames.org databases also stores the time for each move that is likely relevant for an anti-cheating analysis.

Thanks in advance.

PS: I asked the same courtesy on the other forum, unfortunately I did not get any games posted; I rather got lectures how to spot a cheater; I don't really need a lecture, I'm only asking for games where you feel certain your opponent cheated with a computer.

Re: computer cheating examples

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:40 pm
by ChessDrone
Hello PGN4WEB,
It was on talkchess, and personally I do not like how the person to divert the original subject as a troll.

Indeed, there are cheaters everywhere, but it is difficult to deal with the pace that I play. 1 minute, 2 minutes, or 3 minutes maximum. Only a robot can play this pace and win. But then his bike increases considerably, and will therefore be easily detectable.

I can give you private message a user name that I am suspected of cheating because it has a profile assessment gigantic.

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Re: computer cheating examples

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:10 pm
by pgn4web
ChessDrone wrote:Hello PGN4WEB,
It was on talkchess, and personally I do not like how the person to divert the original subject as a troll.

Indeed, there are cheaters everywhere, but it is difficult to deal with the pace that I play. 1 minute, 2 minutes, or 3 minutes maximum. Only a robot can play this pace and win. But then his bike increases considerably, and will therefore be easily detectable.

I can give you private message a user name that I am suspected of cheating because it has a profile assessment gigantic.

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Please feel free to send a PM with the username or even better a direct link to rigged games.

Re: computer cheating examples

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:36 pm
by ChessDrone
Done
The rigged game ... All games are rigged since late December 2012 to now.

Re: computer cheating examples

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:13 am
by Cubeman
The good thing is that most of the cheaters don't know when to stop, so keep on playing and improving to those 2500 rating and above. They then are likely paired against another cheater so they are sort of cheating other cheats which I don't care about. I suppose I am lucky that I play blitz (5min +-0-5) and have rating on FICS of approx 1700 and have only suspected a few cheats in many 1000's of games.