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Blind To Draw

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:34 pm
by kingliveson
Rybka and IvanHoe, to name a couple, can't see this is draw:

8/8/7p/p3k3/8/P5KP/8/8 b - - 1 50


Even at this point (Komodo fails here too):
6K1/7P/8/8/1k6/8/8/q7 b - - 0 59

Re: Blind To Draw

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:30 pm
by hyatt
Seeing the actual draw is not so easy. Crafty evaluates either as near zero however. I think about .4 for the first, and .08 for the last one...

But statically evaluating either as a draw is beyond dangerous because you can move a single piece and change the outcome...

Re: Blind To Draw

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:45 pm
by Sean Evans
computers use endgame tb's now, so it doesn't matter.